[Archived - 2009] PK Official- Questions for Newbie

[kmax]

wow. bro, so serious ?

 

i heard if piston jam is like engine break?

why try full throttle, it will cause more harm if anything went wrong.

could it be timing chain went out ?

 

bro, for ur red light summon and bike problem.

[Metalfyre]

if ur bike @ planet liao just ask them how much the repairs gonna be la..

 

if piston jam is not like engine brake...your engine can't move at all so rear wheel will lock..

[josephsbs]

guys, help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

i was riding today in yishun. after taking a left turn, my throttle suddenly no response! its not the petrol tank dry, cos already tried reserve. i change to any gear, oso cannot move off.. opened my sprocket cover to see, sprocket still there, teeth not worn out. i thought its piston jam, so i tried full throttle.. all i see is black smoke.. but bike still can't move.. its like every gear is a neutral gear.. then, in 6th gear, there's lots of metal sounds coming from the left side of the bike.. what could have happened? how much for such repair? my bike now is at Planet.. hope its not too serious... :(

 

based on what you described, should not be piston jammed. if it is, you will experience something like a rear "wheel-lock" e-brake, unless you happen to clutch in. piston jam lead to engine suddenly stop, engine stop lead to front sprocket stop (unless clutched in), front sprocket stop lead to rear sprocket stop (unless chain off), rear sprocket stop lead to rear wheel stop... end result? skid lor... i kanna before

 

your engine still can run, chances are combustion is still working. black smoke could be burnt engine oil coming out through the exhaust.

 

you tried changing to different gears but bike still as if in neutral gear, my guess is that your clutch-transmission is spoiled/broken. that could be why the gears could not link up with the running engine's crankshaft. motorcycle clutches are usually made up of a stack of alternating plain steel and friction plates. typically two clutch plates, one fixed to the engine's crankshaft, the other fixed to a basket that turns the transmission shaft, which turns the gears and finally front sprocket. the plates are forced together by a set of coil springs when the clutch is engaged. you also mentioned that in 6th gear, there's lots of metal sounds coming from the left side of the bike. the sound could be from the broken or loose parts inside.

 

how much to repair? if the damage is only the clutch, then maybe not so bad. but if it is clutch-transmission and also the crankshaft, then jia-lat liow. btw, probably also need to change gaskets as opening up the engine block.

 

hope this will give you some ideas about how our engines work and what could be wrong with your bike

 

[JavierBIKER]

hello,

 

i want to change my current stock ta200 seat to white color. Any place i can do that?

[Replay]

wow. bro, so serious ?

 

i heard if piston jam is like engine break?

why try full throttle, it will cause more harm if anything went wrong.

could it be timing chain went out ?

 

goodluck bro, for ur red light summon and bike problem.

 

thanks bro.. things are really not going my way.. :cry:

 

if ur bike @ planet liao just ask them how much the repairs gonna be la..

 

if piston jam is not like engine brake...your engine can't move at all so rear wheel will lock..

 

they just called. overhaul required. gearbox chui.. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

based on what you described, should not be piston jammed. if it is, you will experience something like a rear "wheel-lock" e-brake, unless you happen to clutch in. piston jam lead to engine suddenly stop, engine stop lead to front sprocket stop (unless clutched in), front sprocket stop lead to rear sprocket stop (unless chain off), rear sprocket stop lead to rear wheel stop... end result? skid lor... i kanna before

 

your engine still can run, chances are combustion is still working. black smoke could be burnt engine oil coming out through the exhaust.

 

you tried changing to different gears but bike still as if in neutral gear, my guess is that your clutch-transmission is spoiled/broken. that could be why the gears could not link up with the running engine's crankshaft. motorcycle clutches are usually made up of a stack of alternating plain steel and friction plates. typically two clutch plates, one fixed to the engine's crankshaft, the other fixed to a basket that turns the transmission shaft, which turns the gears and finally front sprocket. the plates are forced together by a set of coil springs when the clutch is engaged. you also mentioned that in 6th gear, there's lots of metal sounds coming from the left side of the bike. the sound could be from the broken or loose parts inside.

 

how much to repair? if the damage is only the clutch, then maybe not so bad. but if it is clutch-transmission and also the crankshaft, then jia-lat liow. btw, probably also need to change gaskets as opening up the engine block.

 

hope this will give you some ideas about how our engines work and what could be wrong with your bike

 

 

i thought white smoke is piston...? black smoke is carbon..? or sth like that? haiz....

[josephsbs]

i thought white smoke is piston...? black smoke is carbon..? or sth like that? haiz....

hehe... me not mechanic, so i could also be wrong in my assessment or guessing. the last time i caressed the organs of a petrol engine was >16 years ago and in school

 

please let us know what's wrong when your bike is repaired so we may also learn something

[kmax]

replay: did u ask the possible reason for gear box to fail ??

not enuf EO ? did u play gear like MotoGP ?

[josephsbs]

kmax is right... transmission aka gearbox problems could be caused by insufficient or bad/dirty EO causing excessive wear-n-tear, motor GP like rough usage (e.g. high rev accelerations and "quick-down" engine brakes) puts excessive stress on the gears which may also caused damage. Guess phantom's gears are not made using high stress grade materials like those for sport bikes with high HP engines. Another reason could be material fatigue, meaning metallic parts of the gear assemble become weak over time and then simply chip or break off.

 

more guessing

[Blackenese]

hello,

 

i want to change my current stock ta200 seat to white color. Any place i can do that?

 

Jalan Besar - Eugene Saddlery

 

Kelantan Lane - shop between LAB and AUNTIE

[jB]

hello,

 

i want to change my current stock ta200 seat to white color. Any place i can do that?

answered you in the other thread.

bro, for ur red light summon and bike problem.

just that afternoon I told him to ride relaxed..always have told him since I saw how he rides.. those who've seen him ride maybe knows..no longer ta150 dude..

thanks bro.. things are really not going my way.. :cry:

 

they just called. overhaul required. gearbox chui..

hmm I think I did tell you to pray to whichever god you believed in? could have blessed you..gearbox chui? dude motogp 200cc??

[Blackenese]

I was recently involve in an accident.....

 

Then if the other party's insurance ppl call me to ask

 

1. am i claiming for injury?

2. Claiming medical bills?

 

and so on and so forth

 

Does that means that claim is successful?

 

As in the other party is at fault and the Insurance is goin to settle it?

 

Because the car didnt admit his wrongdoing and just gave me his number and drove off....

 

Thanks for any reply

 

To wat my Mom & dad says, they are gonna compensate liao.....

 

Just want some more feedback....

[Replay]

replay: did u ask the possible reason for gear box to fail ??

not enuf EO ? did u play gear like MotoGP ?

 

EO i checked the night before, got bout 1.1L.. i don't ride like that. i ride normally.

 

kmax is right... transmission aka gearbox problems could be caused by insufficient or bad/dirty EO causing excessive wear-n-tear, motor GP like rough usage (e.g. high rev accelerations and "quick-down" engine brakes) puts excessive stress on the gears which may also caused damage. Guess phantom's gears are not made using high stress grade materials like those for sport bikes with high HP engines. Another reason could be material fatigue, meaning metallic parts of the gear assemble become weak over time and then simply chip or break off.

 

more guessing

 

nope, i do not high rev move off, neither do i engine brake to that extent.

 

just that afternoon I told him to ride relaxed..always have told him since I saw how he rides.. those who've seen him ride maybe knows..no longer ta150 dude..

 

hmm I think I did tell you to pray to whichever god you believed in? could have blessed you..gearbox chui? dude motogp 200cc??

 

bro you must have been mistaken. its true i don't ride 150 any more, but i do not abuse the bike. i don't know where you're coming from bro, but seems to me i'm riding quite hard on the bike, according to your words. however i do know myself that i do not abuse the bike. i ride within speed limit and don't squeeze as much as last time.

 

well maybe, just maybe i could have been worse.. who knows?

[jB]

replay: I told you what you need to know online already. Any more let others tell you or you judge for yourself..in the mean time..enjoy being alive taking public transport and looking at lil mei mei's

[josephsbs]

Hi Replay:

 

Look at it from the brighter view... the gearbox chui and overhaul will cost you $$$, but at least nothing bad happen to you. imagine the gear box gave way just when you needed the propulsion to get out of danger... then siow liow

[Replay]

oh well.. i've been damn suay since i got the bike sia.. 1st the skid, then the summon, then another skid, then now gear box.. only own it for 3 mths sia......

[thatone1]

oh well.. i've been damn suay since i got the bike sia.. 1st the skid, then the summon, then another skid, then now gear box.. only own it for 3 mths sia......

well replay as i told you, get a second opinion at another bike shop, and who knows, it may save u even more?

 

to tow around it only takes $20-30.

 

just call up the different shops u know and ask them to quote you on a gearbox overhaul. then if confirm that price then agree on it and get them to help you transfer to their workshop.

[josephsbs]

I was recently involve in an accident.....

Then if the other party's insurance ppl call me to ask

1. am i claiming for injury?

2. Claiming medical bills?

and so on and so forth

Does that means that claim is successful?

As in the other party is at fault and the Insurance is goin to settle it?

Because the car didnt admit his wrongdoing and just gave me his number and drove off....

I had an accident in 2000 and successfully claimed the other party's insurance, but only after a long long process... think it took about a year before the two lawyers reached a settlement. remember this... the other party's insurance will try their very best "not" to pay, or pay as little as possible. that's why lawyers have to come into the picture and there are lawyers specialized in motorcar/motorcycle claims.

 

even if the other party verbally admit that the accident is due to his fault at the time of accident, he/she will not write that in the police report, some excuses will be cooked up somehow... standard practice. not sure but i heard if the person admit fault, then his insurance company may not pay damages since it is due to negligence and that they have no more room to "fight" in court. best if you can to get him/her to sign an admission on the spot before driving off.

 

when the other party's insurance or legal representatives call you to get information, it doesn't mean your claim is successful. they are just collecting information to assess the damage payable and prepare for the "fight" to lessen their liability. so be very careful of what you tell them.

yes... the other party's insurance company is liable to pay for the damages under normal circumstances. that's the reason why we must buy insurance to cover our liabilities in case we are at fault in an accident. liability is not just the victim's bike repairs, a long list of $$$ payables will knock your finance inside out if you don't have insurance.

 

in your case, the other party is at fault... below is a list of things you may wanna consider claiming:

+ bike repairs... a bit grey here but many pp change whatever that "needs " to be changed and using original parts, the bike repair shop knows what to do

+ medical expenses... don't be hero, do a full check-up, see specialists as necessary, remember to get receipts

+ pain and suffering compensation... this one very grey, specialist reports are usually required to determine the level of suffering you have gone through and will continue to suffer. don't be hero or kay kiang say never mind, smally injury can easily recover

+ any permanent injuries/disabilities... include anything affected, even if it is a finger cannot bend properly, back aches, etc.

+ transport costs to go for treatment... go by taxi lah, remember to get receipts

+ loss of income... claim the daily income lost becoz you cannot go to work (if jobless then bo pian lor)

+ loss of bike usage... some people successfully claim daily transport costs

+ damage to personal belongings caused by accident... e.g. clothings torn, change new helmet becoz kanna knock already, watch spoil due to impact, change spectacles becoz out of shape, handphone drop, etc... all kinds of things you can think off but must be related to accident lah

+ any other things

 

in some cases, claims can add up to a huge sum of $$$... if no insurance, siow liow

 

just one last but very important thing... DO NOT SIGN THE FULL AND FINAL SETTLEMENT DOCUMENT until you are satisfied. once signed, case closed. it means you agree to release/discharge them of any liabilities pertaining to the case.

 

whatever whatever... glad that you are ok after the accident

 

cheers

[thatone1]

for those who wonder why their bikes are so unstable sometimes, my advise is take a look at your tyres, especially the front ones.

 

although the old front tyre i had was metzler, the compound hardened although the thread still had like 40% left, and as u know when the tyre harden they also get very slippery too, causing me to almost skid for a few times.

 

additional things to note for this old metz tyres is that riding is very tough in rainy days as the grip is poor..even pillioning is tough on dry days.

 

so therefore with $70 and some research, i changed my front tyres Pirelli City Demon (front) including installation at HKL, and now, no problem.

 

even 2 days ago when i rode in very very heavy rain i still could carry on as the tyres were very sticky still..

[Blackenese]

I had an accident in 2000 and successfully claimed the other party's insurance, but only after a long long process... think it took about a year before the two lawyers reached a settlement. remember this... the other party's insurance will try their very best "not" to pay, or pay as little as possible. that's why lawyers have to come into the picture and there are lawyers specialized in motorcar/motorcycle claims.

 

even if the other party verbally admit that the accident is due to his fault at the time of accident, he/she will not write that in the police report, some excuses will be cooked up somehow... standard practice. not sure but i heard if the person admit fault, then his insurance company may not pay damages since it is due to negligence and that they have no more room to "fight" in court. best if you can to get him/her to sign an admission on the spot before driving off.

 

when the other party's insurance or legal representatives call you to get information, it doesn't mean your claim is successful. they are just collecting information to assess the damage payable and prepare for the "fight" to lessen their liability. so be very careful of what you tell them.

yes... the other party's insurance company is liable to pay for the damages under normal circumstances. that's the reason why we must buy insurance to cover our liabilities in case we are at fault in an accident. liability is not just the victim's bike repairs, a long list of $$$ payables will knock your finance inside out if you don't have insurance.

 

in your case, the other party is at fault... below is a list of things you may wanna consider claiming:

+ bike repairs... a bit grey here but many pp change whatever that "needs " to be changed and using original parts, the bike repair shop knows what to do

+ medical expenses... don't be hero, do a full check-up, see specialists as necessary, remember to get receipts

+ pain and suffering compensation... this one very grey, specialist reports are usually required to determine the level of suffering you have gone through and will continue to suffer. don't be hero or kay kiang say never mind, smally injury can easily recover

+ any permanent injuries/disabilities... include anything affected, even if it is a finger cannot bend properly, back aches, etc.

+ transport costs to go for treatment... go by taxi lah, remember to get receipts

+ loss of income... claim the daily income lost becoz you cannot go to work (if jobless then bo pian lor)

+ loss of bike usage... some people successfully claim daily transport costs

+ damage to personal belongings caused by accident... e.g. clothings torn, change new helmet becoz kanna knock already, watch spoil due to impact, change spectacles becoz out of shape, handphone drop, etc... all kinds of things you can think off but must be related to accident lah

+ any other things

 

in some cases, claims can add up to a huge sum of $$$... if no insurance, siow liow

 

just one last but very important thing... DO NOT SIGN THE FULL AND FINAL SETTLEMENT DOCUMENT until you are satisfied. once signed, case closed. it means you agree to release/discharge them of any liabilities pertaining to the case.

 

whatever whatever... glad that you are ok after the accident

 

cheers

 

Thanks man...very detailed information

 

Hope Planet can settle this for me....as they are handling it for me......

[TheYasMan]

bro you must have been mistaken. its true i don't ride 150 any more, but i do not abuse the bike. i don't know where you're coming from bro, but seems to me i'm riding quite hard on the bike, according to your words. however i do know myself that i do not abuse the bike. i ride within speed limit and don't squeeze as much as last time.

 

I havent rode much with you, but judging on how patient you were at the expressway after soccer the other day, i'd totally second that.

[slutgarden]

hello people !. i wanna know, will it be possible for me to take off the phantom emblem at the side of the tank?.

 

well i've seen some doing that, having done that , can i drill some holes and attached something else? it's some kinda fiery skull with lightings.

 

will it be advisable to do wirings at the side of the tank, considering the speedo and cables are on the front tank..

 

any good place to recommend for such ?.

 

thanks .

[kmax]

u cant possible drill hole to petrol tank. petrol will leak for sure.

 

if u want, u can order tank cover from madman.

it's slightly bigger and cover the original tank.

http://www.picturesky.com/albums/userpics/10940/normal_DSCN5138.jpg

 

so u can drill hole, put lights, plant trees, pet lizzards, anything to suit ur needs.

[Replay]

I havent rode much with you, but judging on how patient you were at the expressway after soccer the other day, i'd totally second that.

 

:D:D:D

I Love You Yas!

[Replay]

just came back from planet..

 

saw how badly worn out my gear shaft was after ah chong remove my front sprocket. curse the previous owner for knowing the problem, and not telling me. he changed new chain and sprocket, all CHIONG one! 3 months later i need to overhaul. damn him!!! :angry:

 

ah chong offered to weld the sprocket to the shaft for now, so i can ride for bout 4 - 6 months while i make money for the overhaul..

[Replay]

I had an accident in 2000 and successfully claimed the other party's insurance, but only after a long long process... think it took about a year before the two lawyers reached a settlement. remember this... the other party's insurance will try their very best "not" to pay, or pay as little as possible. that's why lawyers have to come into the picture and there are lawyers specialized in motorcar/motorcycle claims.

 

even if the other party verbally admit that the accident is due to his fault at the time of accident, he/she will not write that in the police report, some excuses will be cooked up somehow... standard practice. not sure but i heard if the person admit fault, then his insurance company may not pay damages since it is due to negligence and that they have no more room to "fight" in court. best if you can to get him/her to sign an admission on the spot before driving off.

 

when the other party's insurance or legal representatives call you to get information, it doesn't mean your claim is successful. they are just collecting information to assess the damage payable and prepare for the "fight" to lessen their liability. so be very careful of what you tell them.

yes... the other party's insurance company is liable to pay for the damages under normal circumstances. that's the reason why we must buy insurance to cover our liabilities in case we are at fault in an accident. liability is not just the victim's bike repairs, a long list of $$$ payables will knock your finance inside out if you don't have insurance.

 

in your case, the other party is at fault... below is a list of things you may wanna consider claiming:

+ bike repairs... a bit grey here but many pp change whatever that "needs " to be changed and using original parts, the bike repair shop knows what to do

+ medical expenses... don't be hero, do a full check-up, see specialists as necessary, remember to get receipts

+ pain and suffering compensation... this one very grey, specialist reports are usually required to determine the level of suffering you have gone through and will continue to suffer. don't be hero or kay kiang say never mind, smally injury can easily recover

+ any permanent injuries/disabilities... include anything affected, even if it is a finger cannot bend properly, back aches, etc.

+ transport costs to go for treatment... go by taxi lah, remember to get receipts

+ loss of income... claim the daily income lost becoz you cannot go to work (if jobless then bo pian lor)

+ loss of bike usage... some people successfully claim daily transport costs

+ damage to personal belongings caused by accident... e.g. clothings torn, change new helmet becoz kanna knock already, watch spoil due to impact, change spectacles becoz out of shape, handphone drop, etc... all kinds of things you can think off but must be related to accident lah

+ any other things

 

in some cases, claims can add up to a huge sum of $$$... if no insurance, siow liow

 

just one last but very important thing... DO NOT SIGN THE FULL AND FINAL SETTLEMENT DOCUMENT until you are satisfied. once signed, case closed. it means you agree to release/discharge them of any liabilities pertaining to the case.

 

whatever whatever... glad that you are ok after the accident

 

cheers

 

wow.. this post should be sticky!! nice work bro! VERY detailed!!