[Archived - 2009] PK Official- Questions for Newbie

[Keenguy]

Originally posted by adhlk@Mar 1 2006, 10:39 AM

Are u very sure that there are leakage at the gastket? Doesn't sound like EO to me. More like petrol.

 

Since Phantom is a 4-stoke system. It will take 4 stoke to complete a cycle. There are 2 valves hiding inside the Gasket. One controling the airflow and the other control the petrol intake. As usual, due to tear and wear, the valve might create a small opening for the inlet and outlet...therefore causing sipage and loss in power.

 

You can do top overhaul to adjust the valve and at the same time, check the air/fuel mixture.

 

Just like bro cheong explained, petrol will evaporate, EO will stay on, so it shld be EO ba...

[adhlk]

Originally posted by sky_vinz@Mar 1 2006, 08:45 PM

winthur: U've realised a mis-firing system in TA200! Hooray for ya!

Nah, juz joking. It's actually abt e air-fuel ratio. Ur fuel ratio is too rich. Tune down e idling spd, n it may help. Others hav reported tat using a better spark plug may help too, eg: NGK Platinum G-Force. (",)

recently i notice my exhuast got this "POK POK" sound when i lower down gear to go down slope... is there anything wrong? intermittently i will hear it... at first i tot might be due to my box...but this time i'm cfm it's my exhaust...

 

Sky Vince, good advice. You can tune it on your own or go motordiam to fine tune for you. But that does not garantee that there will not be any backfire. Chances that you will still get it....very normal for Phantom TA200 if you close yr throttle too quickly...

 

[adhlk]

Originally posted by Keenguy@Mar 1 2006, 10:10 PM

Just like bro cheong explained, petrol will evaporate, EO will stay on, so it shld be EO ba...

Yes, I agree. Regardless of EO or petrol, leakage will need to be check. Overtime it will cause disaster to your engine, and endanger yr life during rides.....

[winthur]

Originally posted by adhlk@Mar 2 2006, 10:54 AM

 

Sky Vince, good advice. You can tune it on your own or go motordiam to fine tune for you. But that does not garantee that there will not be any backfire. Chances that you will still get it....very normal for Phantom TA200 if you close yr throttle too quickly...

 

tks for the advice guys!!!

 

sky_vinz: u got me on dat one!!!

 

adhlk:...ya lor.. seems abnormal to me so my balls shrink a bit... thing is i dunno where to tune...i only know the idlling spped can be tune down but i'll have a hard time starting my bike in the morning....

 

have washed the carbrator

[sky_vinz]

winthur: Haha! Guess u still havent experience e real loud pop-pop sound wif e flame shooting out of ur exhaust yet. =P It's super loud, n gives u every kick u need. It made my heart skip a beat everytime when I hear it in e past. It's exactly e same visual effect as those shown in Initial D etc, juz tat there's no power increase. Now after some tuning on my Phan, no more soft/loud pop-pop. Try riding in a more relax manner (open n close throttle smoothly), u'll enjoy e ride much better. Cheers! (",)

[winthur]

Originally posted by sky_vinz@Mar 2 2006, 06:58 PM

winthur: Haha! Guess u still havent experience e real loud pop-pop sound wif e flame shooting out of ur exhaust yet. =P It's super loud, n gives u every kick u need. It made my heart skip a beat everytime when I hear it in e past. It's exactly e same visual effect as those shown in Initial D etc, juz tat there's no power increase. Now after some tuning on my Phan, no more soft/loud pop-pop. Try riding in a more relax manner (open n close throttle smoothly), u'll enjoy e ride much better. Cheers! (",)

wah....engine wun spoil ar?... gosh...really a lot to learn....

[Technician III]

Hi guys.. Just had a question to ask.. Will riding TA200 in the rain affect the performance of the bike? Because 2 days ago, I rode my phantom in the rain for the 1st time.. However, I felt the engine performance dropped a little.. Dunno how to explain.. Just tat the engine doesn't seemed as powerful as riding in dry conditions.

 

My friend told me it's my own thinking that riding in the rain affects the engine performance. So guys, is it true that riding in the rain reduce the engine efficency? I just rode my phantom for a month and I never encountered this problem b4.. Hope u guys can clear my doubts.. Thank you..

[sky_vinz]

winthur: Will damage e engine. As to which part of e engine, I've forgotton.. Remember someone posting it somewhere before. =) Anyway hope to c ya soon. Guess we still havent met each other. Haha.

 

Technician III: Hi! =) Affect performance? I've no idea. Perhaps there's more wind resistance bcoz of e weather? Plus ur tires muz b able to grip in wet conditions too. For myself, riding in e rain feels as normal, juz those distractions from e rain drops, which some hits real hard on my arms. Haha! =P Anyway engine performs better in cool weather as compared to hot weather. Cheers! (",)

[lilium martagon]

hi guys .. im a new phantom rider.. veery new .. abt 2 weeks

[fleaz]

hey guys,

 

need some help here.

 

after washing my bike today, tried to start it. key in, press ignition, bike starts. however, noticed neutral light blinking. neutral light gone each time i try to rev a little. not thinking much about it, i just switched it off. hours later, tried to start bike. key in, press ignition, nothing. no cranking sound at all. neutral light gone. managed to push start bike, tested battery, multimeter shows 12.75V. is that healthy?

 

anyway what could be the problem? fuse? sparkplug? or something else?

 

another problem i face is the difficulty to kick to neutral from 1st gear. i just changed EO for less than 50km. last month checked with bike shop, clutch plates still good.

 

if clutch cable too much freeplay, will affect?

[Keenguy]

Collected my bike today after doing top overhaul and change of tyres.

 

Biangz... changed tyres at the wrong timing cos rubber price went up!

[kaikai83]

Originally posted by Keenguy@Mar 3 2006, 11:36 PM

Collected my bike today after doing top overhaul and change of tyres.

 

Biangz... changed tyres at the wrong timing cos rubber price went up!

Oh ya, saw the news on tv. So what is the current pricing?

[sky_vinz]

lilium martagon: Welcome to PK! (",)

 

fleaz: 12.75v shld b okie I guess. My mechanic told me tat e voltmeter rating shown shld b btw 12-14.5v. Try checking if ur fuse has broke. Btw for ur engine oil, I hav a suggestion. Personally I feel tat engine oil has to 'season' 1st before they feel smoother. Perhaps a few more hundred km to 'season' it ba. Tat's wat happen for my Phan's engine oil changes. Cheers! =)

[winthur]

juz back form the dam....was damn sway... bike can't start.. was hoping to see u guys there.. but alex was at lau pa sha...

 

wat hap is the idling needs to be turn to quite high then can start ...only hap this two days...went to AS Phoon, thay say cahnge air filter, wash carbratorcan liaoz... in the end...still the same and the small "back fire" happens whenever i close throttle..sky_vinz advise to close slowly...but it still happen....was very sad. was wondering was i being cheated for being a newbie at this ASP....

 

anyway...think i will go to this planetz place....watever u call it... hiaz....

 

nites...

[lunloon]

wah leh, winthur your signature make me itchy leh...

[Alexander2004]

Originally posted by winthur@Mar 4 2006, 02:47 AM

juz back form the dam....was damn sway... bike can't start.. was hoping to see u guys there.. but alex was at lau pa sha...

 

wat hap is the idling needs to be turn to quite high then can start ...only hap this two days...went to AS Phoon, thay say cahnge air filter, wash carbratorcan liaoz... in the end...still the same and the small "back fire" happens whenever i close throttle..sky_vinz advise to close slowly...but it still happen....was very sad. was wondering was i being cheated for being a newbie at this ASP....

 

anyway...think i will go to this planetz place....watever u call it... hiaz....

 

nites...

if you need help , i could bring you to my servicing bikeshop , they know me and i know they are quite good . see when we both free , i bring you down

[Mr.Cheong]

Ya, saw news said rubber price gone up thus tyre cost more now. Going to change my tyre to (rear) metz me77, anyone noe how much is it cost now?

[Herculie]

Originally posted by Technician III@Mar 2 2006, 08:51 PM

Hi guys.. Just had a question to ask.. Will riding TA200 in the rain affect the performance of the bike? Because 2 days ago, I rode my phantom in the rain for the 1st time.. However, I felt the engine performance dropped a little.. Dunno how to explain.. Just tat the engine doesn't seemed as powerful as riding in dry conditions.

 

My friend told me it's my own thinking that riding in the rain affects the engine performance. So guys, is it true that riding in the rain reduce the engine efficency? I just rode my phantom for a month and I never encountered this problem b4.. Hope u guys can clear my doubts.. Thank you..

i feel nth less of power when i ride in rain than ride in dry condition.

in fact, i think i feel, the bike has more power and run smoother... not just in rain, in cool/night time also...

so.. i m seeing quite a number of u saying got some prob riding in rain, while mine seemingly performing slightly better...

so.. i m wondering, is it my bike only case? or is it their bikes? or isit just me? haha..

[sky_vinz]

winthur: Planet Motors at Ubi? Hmm.. they're experienced too. I've tried some maintenance work there for my Phan before. =)

[Smart Bet]

Originally posted by winthur@Mar 4 2006, 02:47 AM

juz back form the dam....was damn sway... bike can't start.. was hoping to see u guys there.. but alex was at lau pa sha...

 

wat hap is the idling needs to be turn to quite high then can start ...only hap this two days...went to AS Phoon, thay say cahnge air filter, wash carbratorcan liaoz... in the end...still the same and the small "back fire" happens whenever i close throttle..sky_vinz advise to close slowly...but it still happen....was very sad. was wondering was i being cheated for being a newbie at this ASP....

 

anyway...think i will go to this planetz place....watever u call it... hiaz....

 

nites...

Bike cannot start might be also due to spark plug, weak battery or fule/air ration tuning. If see you at dam, will help you take a look.

[gohkm]

winthur: try planet motor at ubi or ah koon at lengkok bahru...

alex: where is your servicing bikeshop??? when you free, bring me down also can???

keenguy: how much is your top overhaul?? when or how will we know that we need to do an overhaul??

[Keenguy]

Originally posted by kaikai83@Mar 3 2006, 11:59 PM

Oh ya, saw the news on tv. So what is the current pricing?

I dunno what's increased prices like...

 

Just know that for eg on Metzler, a pair which cost $150...

[Keenguy]

Originally posted by gohkm@Mar 4 2006, 02:13 PM

winthur: try planet motor at ubi or ah koon at lengkok bahru...

alex: where is your servicing bikeshop??? when you free, bring me down also can???

keenguy: how much is your top overhaul?? when or how will we know that we need to do an overhaul??

I'm not sure about when but its bcos of my EO leaking onto the engine, which needs to open up the top part to change, and at the same time, do some cleaning and change of damaged piston rings...

 

$150++ excluding piston rings...

[winthur]

Originally posted by gohkm@Mar 4 2006, 02:13 PM

winthur: try planet motor at ubi or ah koon at lengkok bahru...

alex: where is your servicing bikeshop??? when you free, bring me down also can???

keenguy: how much is your top overhaul?? when or how will we know that we need to do an overhaul??

yup...been to planet to meet Ah Chong...he' good man! now my perfomance is back...without prob man! pick up is smooth than before..but he jokes a lot... crappy funny guy...

 

juz few min and my bike ready to go.. i cfm rec planet!

[adhlk]

Originally posted by winthur@Mar 5 2006, 05:25 PM

yup...been to planet to meet Ah Chong...he' good man! now my perfomance is back...without prob man! pick up is smooth than before..but he jokes a lot... crappy funny guy...

 

juz few min and my bike ready to go.. i cfm rec planet!

Strongly recommend Planet if do big job.....like servicing or changing EO can be done around the motordiam you are staying....so far ah Koon servicing is the best and near my office...so I usually drop by his shop.....

 

Will be going down to Koon on Wednesday to fine tune my RPM....some how air/fuel mixture a bit out of tune.....