Discussion on Fuel

[Andy]

Wave R

Wave S

Wave i

 

3 kinds.

 

R with Analog fuel meter (carburetor model)

S with Digital fuel meter (carburetor model)

i for fuel injected model.

 

[axedmurderer]

how come every morning so difficult to start the bike...

everytime must use choke start.. use choke also sometimes die..

 

whats the procedure u guys do normally to start bikes every mornings?

 

another question ; once after a heavy rain i started the bike with the choke.. few minutes later smoke came out from the engine footrest area.. can anyone help explain? is it overheat or something??

[arsonist]

oh okie..

thanks andy

so do u know whats the price differences btwn the 3?

id like to know more abt the wave i..

some more i hardly see the wave i on the streets...

always see wave s n wave r onli

[OrionFire]

Hi

 

1)i think most likely is your air/fuel mixture ratio.. or go wash carb,change air filter lor..

 

2)i just turn on the engine and e-start my bike lor. Maybe my idling higher, won't get this kind of problems.

 

3)Aft a heavy rain, most likely condensation has surrounded the engine cover. Engine actually get quite hot even for warming up, for my case.

 

I suggest you go for a full servicing - service carb / change air filter / change eng oil / change spark plug / adjust air/fuel ratio

 

4) Come down to our June 10 East Coast BBQ and let all the fellow WaveRiders do a medical checkup on your bikey ~

 

cheers~

[fleaz]

since this thread is for wave qns, decided not to start a new thread.

 

what is the difference between wave S and R?

[Andy]

sorry the price i dunno already. I only know 2nd hands one are going as cheap as 2.1K to 2.5K. Very worth it. For cub rides, i would rather get a 2nd hand one as repair costs are so cheap compared to those big cc bikes. So save the 1k diff to soup up the ride.

 

wave i hard to find on the road. I also dunno the price. Sorry mate.

[axedmurderer]

is it possible that my idling is too high? cos sometimes i smell the smoke smell at times.. and also at gear 1 stationary position the bikes jerks a lil bit repeatedly..

 

what do u guys think?

 

could high idling have played a part in the difficulty in starting the bike?

[sky_80]

Originally posted by fleaz@Jun 8 2005, 11:01 AM

since this thread is for wave qns, decided not to start a new thread.

 

what is the difference between wave S and R?

Hi Bro........

 

 

Wave S is digital Meter But Wave R is analog Meter...........

 

Wave S has less colours and has a KEyguard to prevent Theft......

 

[stsoh]

Originally posted by arsonist@Jun 7 2005, 11:41 PM

oh okie..

thanks andy

so do u know whats the price differences btwn the 3?

id like to know more abt the wave i..

some more i hardly see the wave i on the streets...

always see wave s n wave r onli

i read previous posting tat wave-i is the most problematic among the 3.

boon siew don't support n didn't import wave-i cos fuel injection not reliable.

fuel injection unit replacement cost about $300+.

those u see on the road r imported by other motortiams.

[silversurfer2012]

Originally posted by stsoh@Jun 8 2005, 12:49 PM

i read previous posting tat wave-i is the most problematic among the 3.

boon siew don't support n didn't import wave-i cos fuel injection not reliable.

fuel injection unit replacement cost about $300+.

those u see on the road r imported by other motortiams.

 

Then why does boon siew bring in the innova I ??? its also a single cylinder fuel injection model that looks exactly like the blue wave-i with identical stickers, just that the wordings are different. Yes the first batch was problematic, but not the second batch. Fuel injection relys on sensors and when 1 sensor spoilts, most motortiam simply dont have the knowledge to find and replace the sensor, they do it the easy way by smoking the customer saying the whole unit spoilt liao.. must change the whole thing. Then the customer also no choice change everything when all was needed was a replacement of a particular sensor.

 

Sounds like you are one of 'those' customer.. even if u are not, dont go around bad mouthing a particular model based on hearsay.

 

Sorry if this sounds harsh to u.

[stsoh]

Originally posted by silversurfer2012@Jun 8 2005, 07:52 PM

.......

Sounds like you are one of 'those' customer.. even if u are not, dont go around bad mouthing a particular model based on hearsay.

 

Sorry if this sounds harsh to u.

i say i read from previous postings..........

u r rite, the first batch always got some gitches.

u ever wonder y there r still not many wave-i around, except for tat nova....someting tat u mention..

[silversurfer2012]

Originally posted by stsoh@Jun 8 2005, 08:02 PM

i say i read from previous postings..........

u r rite, the first batch always got some gitches.

u ever wonder y there r still not many wave-i around, except for tat nova....someting tat u mention..

Yes i understand y there is not much wave-i around, because people scared when they hear abt the first batch. And furthermore, a wave-i cost about $800 more, people that buy honda wave are people mostly on a budget. Its not that practical for them to pay $800 more.

 

You mean you have seen alot of innova-i on the road? I have only seen 1 innova-i on the road so far for the past 2 years. Have you seen it before in the first place? There is also a normal innova that runs on a carb. and the innova models are sold by boon siew.

[stsoh]

Originally posted by silversurfer2012@Jun 8 2005, 08:18 PM

...... seen alot of innova-i on the road? I have only seen 1 innova-i on the road so far for the past 2 years. Have you seen it before in the first place? There is also a normal innova that runs on a carb. and the innova models are sold by boon siew.

no, lah.

i tot u saying nova sonic 125rs.

http://www.yingyongmotorcycle.com/Images/Sonic%20Super/Bluebl.jpg

[arsonist]

so silversurfer, r u still riding a wave i then?

what is ur opinion btwn wave i n wave s ?

which one do u think is better?

[RxzDelux]

For fuel economy I think Wave-I is da best. For me I am still happy to own Wave-S cause it is problem free and when want to service easy not like the Wave-I. It's up to individual preference in the end.

[fleaz]

first or second hand?

[C.S]

:offtopic: a bit huh......

 

just wan to ask 1 last thing............... do u all know where to get the original light accessories for GIVI E33 box???????????

[silversurfer2012]

Originally posted by RxzDelux@Jun 9 2005, 10:00 PM

For fuel economy I think Wave-I is da best. For me I am still happy to own Wave-S cause it is problem free and when want to service easy not like the Wave-I. It's up to individual preference in the end.

why do u consider servicing not as easy as wave-s? i only service my EO and spark plug. wave-i dont have a carb so no need to wash compared to a wave-s. If you want to mod until like siao get a wave-s cause all motortiam know how to mod carb bikes, most dont know how to modd a fuel injection bike. If you want to relax and go for good fuel consumption get a wave-i.

[RxzDelux]

It's because Wave-I got EFI thing. Electronic stuff once wear n tear have to change the whole EFI box if spoil already. Everything wear n tear. Carburator less likely to spoil if never modify. Like i say in the end up to individual preferences.

[silversurfer2012]

Originally posted by RxzDelux@Jun 10 2005, 10:02 PM

It's because Wave-I got EFI thing. Electronic stuff once wear n tear have to change the whole EFI box if spoil already. Everything wear n tear. Carburator less likely to spoil if never modify. Like i say in the end up to individual preferences.

 

Mehanical have moving parts, electronic dont. which produces friction and which electronic doesnt. Carb every mechanic also know how to fix, EFI if spoil need to change the whole thing? this is because the people bring to mech that dont know how to fix and give them a easy solution of changing the whole EFI when only a change of a particular sensor is needed.

 

Almost all class 2 bikes from '03 onwards EFI already leh.. Dunno y sg mech dont want to go upgrade their skills..

[RxzDelux]

Originally posted by silversurfer2012@Jun 11 2005, 08:52 AM

Mehanical have moving parts, electronic dont. which produces friction and which electronic doesnt. Carb every mechanic also know how to fix, EFI if spoil need to change the whole thing? this is because the people bring to mech that dont know how to fix and give them a easy solution of changing the whole EFI when only a change of a particular sensor is needed.

 

Almost all class 2 bikes from '03 onwards EFI already leh.. Dunno y sg mech dont want to go upgrade their skills..

For those who hav spoilt EFI thing can try pass me the thing. Maybe I can try try repair it? I now pursuing Higher Nitec Electronics Engineering.

[arsonist]

so which motorshop in sg is expert on fixing the efi thing?

surely not those apek shops ryte?

just kiddin

but there must be sum expert shop dat knows ryte?anione care to share?

[silversurfer2012]

Originally posted by arsonist@Jun 17 2005, 05:46 PM

so which motorshop in sg is expert on fixing the efi thing?

surely not those apek shops ryte?

just kiddin

but there must be sum expert shop dat knows ryte?anione care to share?

Actually there is no need to fix it unless you everyday must full throttle to work/school. My bike is the second batch and i have also rode my friend's first batch.

 

The only problem when i ride his bike is when im running at about 110+ and want to wack more, i turn the throttle to the max position and a power cut will come in, if i turn it to the point just before the max position, the power cut doesnt come in. For wave, its better not to travel at more than 100 cos the bike is so damn light and unstable. somemore wave travel at more than 100 engine abit siong liao. Travelling at 70-90 is the best in my opinion for a smooth ride.

[newbie04]

Btw, which wear n tear faster? efi or the carb? does anyone know?

how much faster?

[BlowToEnhance]

Just got myself a 2nd wave...

Check over the internet and was stated that full tank is 4 litres...

however so far fill up only can get up to 3.3 -3.4 litres like dat...

Please shed some light on me....

Also 1 litres can average go how far?

Thanks!