Smaller bikes faster than S4

[dragonforce]

hi hellkeeper

 

dun think its very polite to say some1 stupid.. and if you see "newbie"'s signature.. its a sg plated r1.. for all you might know its his.. by the way, nice angle taken of the bike newbie..

[Guest NPNT]

yah its mine. but whats the point if im stupid noob anyway.

 

sos saddeds.

[ShootMie]

Zzzzz.... going to sleep liow..

[dyerfix]

bro newbie...don't be sad la...u were just being honest...

 

can't believe my SP can outrun your R1...hehhe...gonna tell all my frens...so next time they don't play play wif my SP...

 

tink i will just stick to my SP...no need upgrade to class 2...my SP rocks!! only sian part is have to put 2T...haizz...

[Guest NPNT]

cmon mann. putting 2T vs sky-rocket insurance prices? if i had known, i will buy SP oso liao.

 

too bad nobody posted wad i posted a few yrs ago....

[dyerfix]

ya lor...at least 2T price always about the same...

 

ur R1 also nice wat...quite fast man...if u change sprocket then i tink u can outrun my SP liao...if not u put fast throttle like my SP lor...

[Guest NPNT]

no $ ah change sprocket or put fast throttle. i noob wad. wad i know sia. nvm lor.. SP blow me blow lor.

[gwzc_mk2]

lol @ u stupid noob think before u speak

 

SP out run R1 .... have u ever ride R1 ... do u even know wht is R1 1st and 2nd gear ration

 

i think enginers r stupid who made 1000CC bike they must have better come to u ...

 

lol @ sp can even out run ... this idiot dont even know wht is top speed of R1

 

oh wait he will say next time SP can go to moon lol ... or say SP dont even user petrol ... it runs on water

 

 

just admit it noobs

 

the fact is fact and live with it ..

lol~!

i believe newbie had ridden and owned a R1.

the nick and the rider are 2 different thing.

he may be called newbie but he is a super lao jiao here.

[dragonforce]

yah its mine. but whats the point if im stupid noob anyway.

 

sos saddeds.

yeah not surprised its yours.. who would put a sg plate bike as their signature if its not theirs.. anyway, your previous angle of the bike nicer..

 

envy you riding r1.. my fav bike..

[MrLau]

infront of me , the person who buys 2 stock bike is the stupidest person in world , they go ware & tear so quick u r like allways crying out ur engine

 

There are million of stupidest person in world including the designer of big motorcycle factory.

 

Different engine has it own characteristic and suitable for differerent purpose.

 

2 stroke engine is small, light weight, simple and easy to maintain. The main purpose for small deplacement engine like grass cutter, small CC scooter, motorcycle, etc.

 

Small cc motorcycle are everywhere in the world as an economical transport. Most of the people dont need a sophisticated 4 strokes big cc motorcycle.

 

The disadvantage of 2 strokes engine is pollution and limited to narrow operating range.

 

A 2 strokes engine can run as long a 4 strokes engine with proper care, within the limits of the engine, because the is not many parts in the engine (valves, etc).

 

Most of the 2 strokes engine failure are due to inproper usage: to make a 2 strokes engine to operate at high speed (example as racing bike) really need lots of knowledge and skill. It is not wise to spend tons of money and try to make 2 strokes engine run faster.

 

Buying a 2 strokes is not stupid, buy a big cc 4 strokes doenst make you smarter than others too .

[seoulnow]

this is an interesting thread . . . bring back memories when

 

A a heavily modded (dunno aestetically only or diao engine one) GeglyCK jio a Lexus LS 600H. Maybe he thought ah pek car cannot move one.

 

also heavily modded (with exhaust pipe the size of gorilla) jio a heavily modded R1.

 

In both cases, the latter lost (did not play) and I assume the Geely& Civichave since boasted to their friends how they eat those vehicles.

[overcrash]

There are million of stupidest person in world including the designer of big motorcycle factory.

 

Different engine has it own characteristic and suitable for differerent purpose.

 

2 stroke engine is small, light weight, simple and easy to maintain. The main purpose for small deplacement engine like grass cutter, small CC scooter, motorcycle, etc.

 

Small cc motorcycle are everywhere in the world as an economical transport. Most of the people dont need a sophisticated 4 strokes big cc motorcycle.

 

The disadvantage of 2 strokes engine is pollution and limited to narrow operating range.

 

A 2 strokes engine can run as long a 4 strokes engine with proper care, within the limits of the engine, because the is not many parts in the engine (valves, etc).

 

Most of the 2 strokes engine failure are due to inproper usage: to make a 2 strokes engine to operate at high speed (example as racing bike) really need lots of knowledge and skill. It is not wise to spend tons of money and try to make 2 strokes engine run faster.

 

Buying a 2 strokes is not stupid, buy a big cc 4 strokes doenst make you smarter than others too .

 

Well said Mr Lau!

 

I was kinda intrigued by the thread's title, and so i clicked on it, hoping to see something enriching and enlightening.

 

But some remarks I seen kinda disgusted me.

 

I own both a 2 stroke and a 4 stroke bike. Although a small small 4 stroke bike it is.

 

Sometimes I just feel that before anyone make any comment, firstly he should understand the characteristic of the engine and next that not everyone rode for the same reason.

 

Possible reason A - Some ride because they want to have fun , they wanna relax, they wanna feel the torque-ness of their machine.

 

Possible reason B - Some ride because they need a transport, they wanna save on the ever rising fuel charges etc.

 

for me my 2 stroker is ridden for reason A, and the 4 stroker, for reason B, although this is gonna change soon.

 

But it is unfair to make statements like , "anyone who buy 2 stroke bikes are STUPID!"

 

the uncle who rides a RD , a lao K, doesnt ride like some hooligan, he bought a 2 stroke, so u called him stupid for that ?

 

and also things like "see him stupidly revving and waste petrol, while i slowly ride and save on mine"

 

i am not encouraging pple to ride fast or even recklessly, but some bikes are meant to be ridden that way, try going really really gentle and slow on a KTM200, see whats the result...

 

If you wanna have fun, you just gotten throw away the fuel cost factor..

 

Enough of my rumblings too, all i wanna see is for riders to be one big happy family.

for watever reasons that we ride, we all DO RIDE.

it is a fact.

 

why wanna start calling each other names and look down at each other ?

 

when some car owners are already doing the job...

 

wait till some car owners start saying things like "only stupid pple ride bikes!"

 

then i would really start to see the kind of reaction it will wrath upon.....

 

anyway no harm meant, just my tots....

 

chillz

[Guest NPNT]

anyway, your previous angle of the bike nicer..

 

envy you riding r1.. my fav bike..

not nice ah the MSCP pic.. spoiler sia background.

 

aiyah u can oso can buy R1 if u want wad...

[knoobie]

is it true that s4 got slower trottle respond than SP ? just asking. used to own a SP and now change to s4. i find the trottle respond like slower.. maybe its me thats scare of the extra 250cc compared to before

[skateboy]

its a comparison of a 2 stroke n 4 stroke engine. n the power output is different for both bikes. the comparison in this case is never fair.

[1Seth1]

most of the Sp's have the potential to reach high speeds lah imo.. but how long to reach that speed and how long they can hold is another story. But to beat a s4? jio that damn fast sp to NSHW lah.. I held 170 from bidor exit to machap before the last time i went touring... not much very far lah.. but think if they hold that long piston jam liaoz.. rofl..

 

2 stroke, very fast.. My runner could tear SP's in pick up last time also what.. but lose at top end. so like since SP faster then R1, and my runner faster then Sp..

 

Then my runner is faster then R1 ALSO MAN.. ^_^

[- MaMaN -]

wow interesting thread. i also have a story i would like to share.

 

i work at changi cargo complex and if some of you who work there wold have known that they have long straight roads after the pass office clearence.

 

when i first bought my s4 there's this krr rider ask me to race on that straight road. well as i wanted to test my s4 power, i accepted his offer.

 

At the traffic light, his pickup was fast. i followed his pickup but suddenly there's this thought that came to mind. THERE ARE LORRIES AND HEAVY VEHICLES SHARING THE SAME ROAD. one mistake and i my dead body could be under those lorries. I instantly slowed down and this guy just sped off . When i reach the pass office, he told me "wah my krr can beat ur s4. Useless only buy s4". i jus said "yah, your bike damn fast mine damn slow"

 

So my point is, i love my life and i shouldnt have accepted his offer.

[imfarhan]

hahaha. sp outrun super 4? i believe.

with experience.

 

although most 2a super4 riders would arrogantly say no.

impossible their 150 small cc can overtake my 400 cc powerful engine.

 

dont say sp outrun super 4.

an sp nearly outrun me when i was riding my rvf.

luckily my top speed can go beyond 220

and i am not a no brainer.

i have a class 2.

 

bottom line. you can win a 2 stroker from pick up.

because we 400 cc have better pickup than a 150cc

from the speed of 0km/hr -120km/hr.

but avoid them when they are already on the road and when their speed is above 120. because most sp nowdays can hit 180km/h .no sweat

so unless your bike can go above 200km/h, avoid them on expressway.

 

and trust me. it was unbelieving for me too.

untill i was hit by an sp.

but till now that was the only sp.

 

and of course sp vs class 2?

impossible.

but super four?

depends on the bike and rider and the modifications.

[kurarensu]

hahaha. sp outrun super 4? i believe.

with experience.

 

although most 2a super4 riders would arrogantly say no.

impossible their 150 small cc can overtake my 400 cc powerful engine.

 

dont say sp outrun super 4.

an sp nearly outrun me when i was riding my rvf.

luckily my top speed can go beyond 220

and i am not a no brainer.

i have a class 2.

 

bottom line. you can win a 2 stroker from pick up.

because we 400 cc have better pickup than a 150cc

from the speed of 0km/hr -120km/hr.

but avoid them when they are already on the road and when their speed is above 120. because most sp nowdays can hit 180km/h .no sweat

so unless your bike can go above 200km/h, avoid them on expressway.

 

and trust me. it was unbelieving for me too.

untill i was hit by an sp.

but till now that was the only sp.

 

and of course sp vs class 2?

impossible.

but super four?

depends on the bike and rider and the modifications.

 

i agree.. now adays sp/krr run damn fast.. that time got one super fast i go chase... i 180 hitting 190 already stil no where near...? stil maintain the same gap... i tot can close the gap...

 

i tried playing with 2strokers before... by right 2stroke should haf the advantage of launching over 4stroke if the riders plays it well.. and by right 3-4gear onwards.. your vtec power kicks in all the way should makan back liao.. after that is all depends on the 2stroke's bike setting.. if that bike is set for top end.. can hard fight wif u.. serious no kidding..

[sh10]

Im not arrogant. But if to compare SP heavily modded. S4 heavily Modded. Take Casey Stoner & Rossi. Put them on the road. Maybe i would believe.

What if in the situation when the S4 rider have an improper riding technique compared to the SP Rider? Of course, the winning post goes to SP. Yes, its true S4 have the pick up. From there on just blast. SP will try and reach. At the top speed how far can SP go? I believe more than 4KM the SP is endangering his piston. He might end up road shoulder.

 

It's not overun.

It's how far was the race?

Who's the rider?

Is it both stock?

Is it both mod?

[4DToToBig Sweep]

SP vs S4

 

Sp will win S4 in pushing backwards...

COS SP is lighter :D :cheeky:

[hongguan]

In the end , TP will still win..

 

off topic..

[Stardust83]

Then my runner is faster then R1 ALSO MAN.. ^_^

 

yah...ur runner also called R1 mah...Runner no.1 !

[imfarhan]

Im not arrogant. But if to compare SP heavily modded. S4 heavily Modded. Take Casey Stoner & Rossi. Put them on the road. Maybe i would believe.

What if in the situation when the S4 rider have an improper riding technique compared to the SP Rider? Of course, the winning post goes to SP. Yes, its true S4 have the pick up. From there on just blast. SP will try and reach. At the top speed how far can SP go? I believe more than 4KM the SP is endangering his piston. He might end up road shoulder.

 

It's not overun.

It's how far was the race?

Who's the rider?

Is it both stock?

Is it both mod?

 

 

 

yeap. true. sp cannot last long . depending on how many kilo you intend to play . if its going to be a long stretch obviously super 4 can last longer. because sp has only one piston. cant expect much out of sp. but it definetly can outrun in certain scenario.

and dont talk about tp, piston jamm.vibration and all.

of course got la. all this and that bla bla bla.

modifications and all

you cant compare a 150 and 400

if you count all the factors of course la super 4 is more RELIABLE and stable.

 

what i am just trying to say to all big bike riders. .

just dont underestimate small bikes.

they might suprise us on the road once in a while

anyway

we all started from small bikes.

lets not forget our roots.

maybe not all of us had powerful 2b bikes

i guess most riders kept their bikes stock.

thats why its hard for some to believe.

 

enough said

different people have different experience and different encounters.

 

im just sharing mine.

[Specs]

Lol, what i have heard before

 

sp can outrun s4

s4 can outrun 600cc

600cc can outrun 1000cc

 

If its on the track i will believe but on the straights