Yamaha Diversion 900

Swift · April 22, 2005

Hey Sun,

Have you gotten back to Eagle Screens about the quotation that they gave you?

Acording to the dimensions given, it seems that if we were to custom make it to the maximum height, it will be 69.5cm high. The Skidmarx is only 62cm high.

Something for you and whoever to consider.

So far anybody else interested?

SiLvErGhOsT · April 22, 2005

Originally posted by Swift@Apr 22 2005, 02:36 PM
Acording to the dimensions given, it seems that if we were to custom make it to the maximum height, it will be 69.5cm high. The Skidmarx is only 62cm high. Something for you and whoever to consider.So far anybody else interested?

Hi Swift,

It is advisable for you to get a screen that you can~ look over the screen to have a better view for instant if it starts to rain heavily your screen will be blured out by pounding rain + adding/making the problem/situation worse your helmets' visor fogging up..!

Get the wind-screen just under your eye level seeing over the screen and sitting comfortablily without straightening your back. To have a better view of the road- all you have to do is just straighten your back...!

Get it....same goes to other buggers too- Sun, Ah Nick and etc:-

Higher wind screens- side effects--> petrol consumption high, Aero dynamics effected , screen will be under tormendous stress at higher speeds (not forgetting screws securing the screen).

In Ah Nick case he can order high as long it is below his eye level plus he need to add in another bracket to counter the pressure on the screen (extended rods supporting it from the tank bolt).

It is best that you guys sit on other divvys with higher screen to get the lenght measured accurately...!

Silverghost...

Swift · April 23, 2005

Originally posted by SiLvErGhOsT@Apr 22 2005, 11:39 PM
Hi Swift,
It is advisable for you to get a screen that you can~ look over the screen to have a better view for instant if it starts to rain heavily your screen will be blured out by pounding rain + adding/making the problem/situation worse your helmets' visor fogging up..!

Get the wind-screen just under your eye level seeing over the screen and sitting comfortablily without straightening your back. To have a better view of the road- all you have to do is just straighten your back...!

Get it....same goes to other buggers too- Sun, Ah Nick and etc:-

Higher wind screens- side effects--> petrol consumption high, Aero dynamics effected , screen will be under tormendous stress at higher speeds (not forgetting screws securing the screen).

In Ah Nick case he can order high as long it is below his eye level plus he need to add in another bracket to counter the pressure on the screen (extended rods supporting it from the tank bolt).

It is best that you guys sit on other divvys with higher screen to get the lenght measured accurately...!

Silverghost...

SG,

So are you interested to get the "Eagle" also? For me, i will just wait for the skidmarx. I will give them till June if still not here, i will ask for a refund and order the "Eagle"!

Soar like the Eagle!

SiLvErGhOsT · April 23, 2005

Originally posted by Swift@Apr 23 2005, 08:23 AM
So are you interested to get the "Eagle" also? For me, i will just wait for the skidmarx. I will give them till June if still not here, i will ask for a refund and order the "Eagle"!

Hi Swift,

I've already placed an order for the Givi screen(smoke)...it's just abit taller then the OEM screen..!

Frankily I'm not interested in the eagle screen -I had enough of the tall screens(skidmarx)...experience.! Thank you.

Silverghost...

sun · April 23, 2005

Originally posted by SiLvErGhOsT@Apr 22 2005, 12:19 PM
Hi Guys,
Lately any buggers order the "eagle screen" after much talk. If you guys are interested - it is advised, to order together can save some cash.
You can forget about the biketech they take years...with empty promises..!

Custom was saying that they can deliver within 3wks of your order - So what is the delay in ordering or waiting for...!
Ah Nick, Sun ...!

Silverghost...

Hi Swift & SG,

Eagle screens are priced at Aus$140 plus postage of $36.50.

The thickness is 3cm & there isn't any flip-up like skidmarx. They claimed deeper (slightly more curved from one side to the other) than stock screen but I do not know what does that mean. As for the making & delivery, they also claimed that it will take them a couple of days to make it and get it in the post to us. It should take only a few days to get to us.

Ya, it'll be better to sit on other pple's bike with tall screen to measure accurately. Here're 2 more pics that they sent me.

sun · April 23, 2005

Originally posted by sun@Apr 23 2005, 08:29 PM
Hi Swift & SG,

Eagle screens are priced at Aus$140 plus postage of $36.50.

The thickness is 3cm & there isn't any flip-up like skidmarx. They claimed deeper (slightly more curved from one side to the other) than stock screen but I do not know what does that mean. As for the making & delivery, they also claimed that it will take them a couple of days to make it and get it in the post to us. It should take only a few days to get to us.

Ya, it'll be better to sit on other pple's bike with tall screen to measure accurately. Here're 2 more pics that they sent me.

Here's the 2nd pic.

OMD · April 23, 2005

Originally posted by sun@Apr 23 2005, 08:29 PM

The thickness is 3cm & there isn't any flip-up like skidmarx.

Sun,

3cm thickness would qualify your Eagle screen as a bulletproof screen. Am I correct to say that you meant 3mm?

From,

OMD

OMD · April 23, 2005

Guys and Gals,

After the last Pengerang day ride, I am still itching for more. I am setting a date for another day ride, destination still pending (suggestions welcomed).

Day ride

Date : 8th May 2005 (Sunday)

Meeting time : 0700 (tentative)

Place : TBA (subject to 1st or 2nd Link)

Participants

1) OMD

2)

3)

4)

5)

6)

7)

8)

Itinerary

1) Start ride

2) Stop for late breakfast

3) Lunch somewhere

4) R&R / Chill out / TCS

5) Start ride back (late afternoon)

6) Dinner @ Pendas

7) Gas up and homeward bound.

Since it is a day ride with no pressure, the distance to be covered should not be too much. Anyone with a place in mind, please feel free to suggest it to the rest. As far as I am concerned.............it is all about riding. Those who knows me long enough would understand.

From,

OMD

SiLvErGhOsT · April 23, 2005

Originally posted by sun@Apr 23 2005, 08:29 PM
Eagle screens are priced at Aus$140 plus postage of $36.50.

The thickness is 0.3cm & there isn't any flip-up like skidmarx. They claimed deeper (slightly more curved from one side to the other) than stock screen but I do not know what does that mean.

Hi Sun,

If you like the Eagle Screen go ahead and order it will be still under $200sing.

When they(eagle screen) claimed as slightly curvy (outwards)means it is something like a bubble screen bend this help the screen to stay solid and push the wind around or away..as seen on the picture. There is no flip-ups so no pressure on the screen.

On the otherhand Skidmarx has inward curve this is where the screen tends to bend. Most wind pressure is especially at the top flip-up part. I modify that part by making a hole to reduce the wind pressure at that particular area of the screen.

Skidmarx is good for normal local rides within 110kph- the problem only starts when you are traveling in west Malaysia were the average speed we ride is 140kph.

Get the right height before you order, as I said earlier try to get the screen just below your eye level, this can help you to judge/see the gap when you are going inbetween heavy vehicles/trailers.

*How Sun have you exhange the bike seat with Ah Nick - Ah Nick already said that you can try it if not to your satisfaction he will exchange it back..Give a call to Ah Nick and check-it out...!

If your bike tyres bald you can replace those with low profile tyres this can help~ but basically reducing the ground clearance by 1/2 to 3/4 inch.

OMD is suggesting a short ride on 8th May Sunday-so how about you coming!! looks rather like another short trip...! keep that date free.

Silverghost...

kevin · April 24, 2005

OMD

U whet my appetite again & now i am hungry for more. I look forward for the ride also, not sure will i b working on sunday. As i am pending for confirmation to a new job d next few days. Still in-decisive.

ALL

BTW, any time, any day, anybody care to join me to have an oil & filter change at Seng Kwang this week.

Or to HL as my right signal is not working. Has checked & dismantled d fuses, bulbs & signal switches but to no avail.

My low fuel warning light is not working as well, has heard from divvys from YDCN & MSN that it is a common problem many riders encounter. Though it is not threatening or irritate me, just like to know is there any of u guys encounter this??

Through experience, bike that is 5 years or onwards like mine it tends to fall sick, flu, diarrhoea, etc. much easier. Though rust started to appear in certain area i will still definitely ride her for d next 5 years. I wanted to hit d 100 000miles mark leh. Still no intention to change to other bike, cos no other bike is as low maintenance as this baby, yet it still have d oomps to overpower many good roads locally, in addition she is instalment free already. Has been paying $220 per mth for d past 4 years. Time to have some serious saving now, cos i have spend too much $$ on bike for d past 15 yrs. I sound like i have been enlightened uh!!

Anybody know where can i buy d T-tool for d removal of oil filter??

Sun

With regards to d screen, u may post question at Aus. divvy MSN, whether is there any existing eagle screen owner response to your Q&A. may also take measurement on TP screen as well. Let me attach a pic for reference, like what SG has suggested 2 days ago. d supporting rods u may have it done at SK. if it look really good on your bike, i will consider as well. How about considering d Corbin seat??

ALL

I saw a silver divvy travelling along BKE towards Woodlands at about 8pm +-. His a chinese & a little big, probably in his mid 30's. Was riding quite slow at d inner lane. Just curious whether is he one of u guys here.

From d list of divvy riders that Swift has created, if i am going to list Shaji in, we have a total of 21 divvy riders we know of on d road. I belief there are many more lone rangers out there yet to be spotted.

sun · April 24, 2005

Originally posted by OMD@Apr 23 2005, 11:01 PM
Sun,

3cm thickness would qualify your Eagle screen as a bulletproof screen. Am I correct to say that you meant 3mm?

From,
OMD

Oops.....it's 3mm.....

furbykong · April 24, 2005

Originally posted by Swift@Apr 20 2005, 01:09 AM
There is still one silver second hand Diversion at New Southern Motors
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You need used Divvy...please procceed to blk 52,Sims Dr, Wing Fatt Trading. Look for Mr Ng.Fw plate,owner hardly use coz had a car.Dark blue in colour.

hi all, see a lot of experience here for a quite a while. hope to hear opinions and advice on the 2 mentioned bikes b4 commiting time to view them if possible

anyone noes wats the likely price range for the 2, had an impression the one at New southern is FV plate.

is the one at Wing Fatt trading a motordiam or private owner? cos i definitely need to offload my current ride if i am contemplating a change, and a trade-in will save me loads of admin hassle..

any comments greatly appreciated

SiLvErGhOsT · April 24, 2005

Originally posted by furbykong@Apr 24 2005, 05:55 PM
anyone noes wats the likely price range for the 2, had an impression the one at New southern is FV plate.
is the one at Wing Fatt trading a motordiam or private owner? cos i definitely need to offload my current ride if i am contemplating a change, and a trade-in will save me loads of admin hassle..

Hi Furbykong,

Well as what I came to know about the bike(silver divvy) at southern it is not in good condition and it had been there for sometimes, and I heard that they have reduced the price but not sure how much they reduce...

As what Haroze says that the bike in Wing fatt is in better condition but with some scratches...?

Suggesting you to hit~ Wing Fatt 1st before going/heading over to the Southern...

If you are interested ask Wing Fatt to do up the bike before you take over or trade in your present bike!!!

Before you push in your bike as trade-in--> remove all the extra accessories you fix e.g top givi box & base plate, steering damper etc.. later this accessories can be sold over or transfer back to your new bike...!

to you! and hoping to see with the Diversion Riders Group (family)..

Silverghost...

SiLvErGhOsT · April 24, 2005

Originally posted by kevin@Apr 24 2005, 10:37 AM
my right signal is not working. Has checked & dismantled d fuses, bulbs & signal switches but to no avail. My low fuel warning light is not working as well, has heard from divvys from YDCN & MSN that it is a common problem many riders encounter. Through experience, bike that is 5 years or onwards like mine it tends to fall sick, flu, diarrhoea, etc. much easier. Though rust started to appear in certain area i will still definitely ride her for d next 5 years. I wanted to hit d 100 000miles mark leh. Still no intention to change to other bike, cos no other bike is as low maintenance as this baby.

Hi Kevin,

About the right signal light- not working is it front and back both or 1 signal only. As you have add on the handle bar extender, maybe wires have stretch and give way...or does it work during hazard "on" or have you use any spare bulbs to test it.

You say that your fuel low warning light is not working in that case you fuel guage should not be working too. (if you use the milage to calculate your fuel balance it shouldn't be a big issue) check the connectors below the tank!

A bike never give you problem is a bloody good bike...and as you say its has one of the lowest Maintenance in its class ~ True!...thats the reason why most of us from the DRG still riding it.

I used to change bike quite often but -this Divvy me going to keep her for very long time.

I saw a Silver diversion near- opposite Jln Besar stadium 2 days ago park on the pavement #2776 so who's is it...! anybody from here? I look around did not see the owner.

If you are going over to HL can you check the price for the single seat converter it's a cover only. as seen on the tp bike!

Silverghost...

kevin · April 25, 2005

Originally posted by SiLvErGhOsT@Apr 24 2005, 11:29 PM
Hi Kevin,
About the right signal light- not working is it front and back both or 1 signal only. As you have add on the handle bar extender, maybe wires have stretch and give way...or does it work during hazard "on" or have you use any spare bulbs to test it.

You say that your fuel low warning light is not working in that case you fuel guage should not be working too. (if you use the milage to calculate your fuel balance it shouldn't be a big issue) check the connectors below the tank!

A bike never give you problem is a bloody good bike...and as you say its has one of the lowest Maintenance in its class ~ True!...thats the reason why most of us from the DRG still riding it.

I used to change bike quite often but -this Divvy me going to keep her for very long time.
I saw a Silver diversion near- opposite Jln Besar stadium 2 days ago park on the pavement #2776 so who's is it...! anybody from here? I look around did not see the owner.
If you are going over to HL can you check the price for the single seat converter it's a cover only. as seen on the tp bike!

Silverghost...

Guys and Gals,

After the last Pengerang day ride, I am still itching for more. I am setting a date for another day ride, destination still pending (suggestions welcomed).

Day ride

Date : 8th May 2005 (Sunday)

Meeting time : 0700 (tentative)

Place : TBA (subject to 1st or 2nd Link)

Participants

1) OMD

2) M/M Kevin (90%)3)

4)

5)

6)

7)

8)

Itinerary

1) Start ride

2) Stop for late breakfast

3) Lunch somewhere

4) R&R / Chill out / TCS

5) Start ride back (late afternoon)

6) Dinner @ Pendas

7) Gas up and homeward bound.

Since it is a day ride with no pressure, the distance to be covered should not be too much. Anyone with a place in mind, please feel free to suggest it to the rest. As far as I am concerned.............it is all about riding. Those who knows me long enough would understand.

From,

OMD

Went to JB for petrol , DVD (Sahara, Pacifier, Creep etc.) & food yesterday. Traffic at woodlands custom was very soomth (no jam) when on the way back at 835pm.

SG

The right front & rear signal are not working even during hazard. May be you are right, due to over-stretch from the riser. Went to HL this morning, as usual, they said they do not have enough staff & there are too many bikes to look into. Thus, require to book for an appointment & the available slot is next Tuesday, 10am. Even i was there at 9am. I have checked the connector, no problem leh. I always look at the odometer for fuel refill also. If i am at HL next week, i will definitely check d cost for the rear seat cover for u.

I was very admired the new Yamaha showroom & workshop, very presentable & LOOK professional. Saw d MT-01, very impresive & aggresive, however, when i looked at the engine, i sensed that this bike not recommended to ride under the rain, cos, the lower part of d engine & where d crank is, can be very difficult to polish & clean. Too many protruding parts & look very messy. Even worst then the Max's engine.

Went to SK, Semi-syn Esso 10W40 engine oil at 3x$8.00 per btl, Esso gear oil at $8.00 per btl. Gilbert recommended me to use Honda oil filter($15) instead of Yamaha filter($22), it is compatible. Total spend $47.00. (Had 1 btl engine oil left over from last service). I too lazy to DIY & also lost d tool to remove d filter. SK also mentioned d engine oil price will & may b increase by $2.00, due to pressured by the supplier. (same old story!!!). I always changed only engine oil at apprx. interval at low 3500miles, or high 4000 miles equivalent to apprx. 3 to 4 mths. Just to share info. How about u guys??

OMD · April 25, 2005

Originally posted by kevin@Apr 25 2005, 12:37 PM
Guys and Gals,

I was very admired the new Yamaha showroom & workshop, very presentable & LOOK professional. Saw d MT-01, very impresive & aggresive, however, when i looked at the engine, i sensed that this bike not recommended to ride under the rain, cos, the lower part of d engine & where d crank is, can be very difficult to polish & clean. Too many protruding parts & look very messy. Even worst then the Max's engine.

Went to SK, Semi-syn Esso 10W40 engine oil at 3x$8.00 per btl, Esso gear oil at $8.00 per btl. Gilbert recommended me to use Honda oil filter($15) instead of Yamaha filter($22), it is compatible. Total spend $47.00. (Had 1 btl engine oil left over from last service). I too lazy to DIY & also lost d tool to remove d filter. SK also mentioned d engine oil price will & may b increase by $2.00, due to pressured by the supplier. (same old story!!!). I always changed only engine oil at apprx. interval at low 3500miles, or high 4000 miles equivalent to apprx. 3 to 4 mths. Just to share info. How about u guys??[/color]

Kevin,

I saw the MT-01 also, and was quite impressed with it's mascular looks. Unfortunately, upon reading the specs, all was too good to be true. Very sad power output plus a chain final drive.................not my cup of tea.

As for my oil change, it is always semi-synthetic oils. Currently using Silkolene, can't recall the grade though. Done religously every 5000km or 3 months, whichever comes first.

From,

OMD

Custom · April 25, 2005

Juz reroute the throttle cable n brake cable.

Now only left the electric cable which I feel it is abit stress.

Maybe next week will diy the cables.

Went to HL last Sat.

Had a talk to Mr Lee.

He is saying that nowadays there is long q but they can perform repair if u willing to wait or collect at a later hours.

Changed Motul 300(15W50) a few weeks ago but still prefer the Esso Gold coz feel that the engine sounds louder n ticking sound comes back. Only I like it when it is hot and high speed where the engine is quite as compare to Esso.

Coming week will change back to Esso Gold alhough it can last for only 3000miles b4 the ticking sound comes back.

I always believe that 80% wear n tear comes from the initial cold start of engine; tin will goes back to Esso Gold, 10W40

Custom · April 25, 2005

Guys and Gals,

After the last Pengerang day ride, I am still itching for more. I am setting a date for another day ride, destination still pending (suggestions welcomed).

Day ride

Date : 8th May 2005 (Sunday)

Meeting time : 0700 (tentative)

Place : TBA (subject to 1st or 2nd Link)

Participants

1) OMD

2) M/M Kevin (90%)3)

4) Custom (will go if can touch down on time)

5)

6)

7)

8)

Itinerary

1) Start ride

2) Stop for late breakfast

3) Lunch somewhere

4) R&R / Chill out / TCS

5) Start ride back (late afternoon)

6) Dinner @ Pendas

7) Gas up and homeward bound.

Since it is a day ride with no pressure, the distance to be covered should not be too much. Anyone with a place in mind, please feel free to suggest it to the rest. As far as I am concerned.............it is all about riding. Those who knows me long enough would understand.

From,

OMD

Custom · April 25, 2005

Originally posted by OMD@Apr 25 2005, 07:35 PM
Kevin,

I saw the MT-01 also, and was quite impressed with it's mascular looks. Unfortunately, upon reading the specs, all was too good to be true. Very sad power output plus a chain final drive.................not my cup of tea.

Try Rocket3....

Shaft driven and 2400cc

SiLvErGhOsT · April 25, 2005

Originally posted by kevin@Apr 25 2005, 12:37 PM
Went to SK, Semi-syn Esso 10W40 engine oil at 3x$8.00 per btl, Esso gear oil at $8.00 per btl. Gilbert recommended me to use Honda oil filter($15) instead of Yamaha filter($22), it is compatible. Total spend $47.00. I always changed only engine oil at apprx. interval at low 3500miles, or high 4000 miles equivalent to apprx. 3 to 4 mths.
Just to share info. How about u guys?

Hi Kevin,

I am using Motul V300 Fully Synthetic $22/L, considered (Yamaha GP racing Oil) this what they are using for GP. Yamaha Oil filter $22 also.

The longer I use...the engine feels smoother...I change around 5000+ - miles(8000km). As this is a Air Cool engine you cannot delay further on.

If it's a water-cool engine it can be use up to 10,000km.

You say that (Gilbert recommended you to use Honda oil filter($15) instead of Yamaha filter($22)

I don't think Gilbert Knows much about engine oil (PSI) pressures!!! You must understand that each oil filter is made to withstand that manufacturers engines' oil pressure. Once the filter is choke~ oil will simply by pass the (strainer)filter-> unfiltered oil is return back to the oil sump and back again...there is a by-pass spring inside the oil filter - made to/by manufacturers engine oil pressure recommmedation.

*Incase the oil filter is choke-the oil did not by-pass(because it works on different pressure setting) inside the oil filter... thats it!! no oil is going to the piston or other parts of the engine...You should know what happens next!!!

You must know that Honda and Yamaha do not have the same engine oil pressure PSI..! (honda have 3 type of oil filters from $7,$12 and $18) how do you know it is a genuine oil filter or which filter they use..!!

(Even thou ford and mazda have the same oil filter mounting both vehicles have different oil pressure, if you mount the ford filter to the mazda- the oil filter will give way (pops/ burst) once you accelerate the engine.!)

It is only an extra $5 to $7- you can ride with a piece of mind! You can by the oil filter from the verdun rd yamaha supplier (behind mustafa) I think they selling at $20/ and bring it to SK..to change it.

SK they do not keep/carry yamaha oil filters-I know that..I ever changed there before- they recommend me honda filters too -I told them no way and insist that I want only yamaha filter...so no choice they LL bought it from the neighbouring workshop.

Silverghost...

Oxygen · April 25, 2005

Originally posted by Custom@Apr 25 2005, 09:19 PM
Guys and Gals,

After the last Pengerang day ride, I am still itching for more. I am setting a date for another day ride, destination still pending (suggestions welcomed).

Day ride
Date : 8th May 2005 (Sunday)
Meeting time : 0700 (tentative)
Place : TBA (subject to 1st or 2nd Link)

Participants
1) OMD
2) M/M Kevin (90%)3)
4) Custom (will go if can touch down on time)
5)
6)
7)
8)

Itinerary
1) Start ride
2) Stop for late breakfast
3) Lunch somewhere
4) R&R / Chill out / TCS
5) Start ride back (late afternoon)
6) Dinner @ Pendas
7) Gas up and homeward bound.

Since it is a day ride with no pressure, the distance to be covered should not be too much. Anyone with a place in mind, please feel free to suggest it to the rest. As far as I am concerned.............it is all about riding. Those who knows me long enough would understand.

From,
OMD

I think ...I am unable to make it for this trip.

You guys have a fun ride.

SiLvErGhOsT · April 25, 2005

Originally posted by Custom@Apr 25 2005, 09:17 PM
Coming week will change back to Esso Gold alhough it can last for only 3000miles b4 the ticking sound comes back.
I always believe that 80% wear n tear comes from the initial cold start of engine; tin will goes back to Esso Gold, 10W40

Hi Custom,

I ever used the esso gold before- it was my first and the last -after 2 weeks of using the engine oil - the engine became very rough and noisy.! the next day I changed to Mobil1 that was last year.

Workshops know about their(esso) engine oil quality but they keep quite, because their showcase displays were mostly sponsered by them.

Engine oil - thinner they are faster the move/flow inside the engine.

You must know the watts rating on the engine oil container, 0-20w is thinner then 20-50w and it works well with lower temperatures- can start the engine below -10'C no problem.

I did not say that 0-20w cannot be use, but it break down faster in our climate use... it is more suitable for colder country- it will last there...longer.

We are on the warmer part so choose accordingly unless you wanted to change oil very often.

20-50w is design/made to use inbetween 5'C to 50'C so starting the engine at this temperature is no problem- it is more suitable to use on our climate temperature is around 24'C and 33'C and the oil can last longer.

Why GP bikes using higher watts- they run on high temperature and hot climates (35'C to 45'C) so they uses 20-50w fully synthetics engine oils...!

If the engine runs smooth- fuel saving and horsepower being fully utilised.

During warm up I do not have rough engine noise as you say! Can try to check with those who have changed to motul v300- If yours only having that problem- then need to check your valve clearance!

Silverghost...

kevin · April 25, 2005

Originally posted by SiLvErGhOsT@Apr 25 2005, 11:02 PM
Hi Kevin,

It is only an extra $5 to $7- you can ride with a piece of mind! You can by the oil filter from the verdun rd yamaha supplier (behind mustafa) I think they selling at $20/ and bring it to SK..to change it.

SK they do not keep/carry yamaha oil filters-I know that..I ever changed there before- they recommend me honda filters too -I told them no way and insist that I want only yamaha filter...so no choice they LL bought it from the neighbouring workshop.

Silverghost...

i truely appreciate your advise with regards to d filter. Thank you for taking d time to key in d info & it do make sense. that's why i like to share what ever info & received feedback. is good for other divvy to read as well. Though i have been riding for many years, a lot of things i may not know in details also.

d shop along verdun rd before Desker rd is Auto Machinery. Used to frequent them regularly when i DIY my Max, any parts that is on d Yammy.

Custom · April 26, 2005

Originally posted by SiLvErGhOsT@Apr 26 2005, 12:16 AM
Hi Custom,
I ever used the esso gold before- it was my first and the last -after 2 weeks of using the engine oil - the engine became very rough and noisy.! the next day I changed to Mobil1 that was last year.
Workshops know about their(esso) engine oil quality but they keep quite, because their showcase displays were mostly sponsered by them.

Engine oil - thinner they are faster the move/flow inside the engine.

You must know the watts rating on the engine oil container, 0-20w is thinner then 20-50w and it works well with lower temperatures- can start the engine below -10'C no problem.
I did not say that 0-20w cannot be use, but it break down faster in our climate use... it is more suitable for colder country- it will last there...longer.
We are on the warmer part so choose accordingly unless you wanted to change oil very often.
20-50w is design/made to use inbetween 5'C to 50'C so starting the engine at this temperature is no problem- it is more suitable to use on our climate temperature is around 24'C and 33'C and the oil can last longer.
Why GP bikes using higher watts- they run on high temperature and hot climates (35'C to 45'C) so they uses 20-50w fully synthetics engine oils...!
If the engine runs smooth- fuel saving and horsepower being fully utilised.

During warm up I do not have rough engine noise as you say! Can try to check with those who have changed to motul v300- If yours only having that problem- then need to check your valve clearance!

Silverghost...

Hi SG,

Thanks for your infor. I'm using Esso Gold, 10W40. so it should be ok. From the message, think u use the 0W40(I think) which is mean for car. The different between car and motorcycle is the formulated for wet clutches.

Motul 300V is 15W50.

Front number is when the oil reach high temperature b4 flash point. That is the lowest VI that it can be.

Last number is VI during room temperature.

lower the number, faster it goes through the engine.

So having this logic, 10Wor 15W makes almost no different.

But different is on the 40W n 50W. Both oil have different VI during startup.

The faster the oil cover e engine, the better.

As I say, most wear n tear occur during the startup of the engine, not when engine is warm up since there is no oil in between the bushing, bearing etc.

Futher to that, our engine uses flashing method(car used pump), it will take a longer time to reach when the vocity is higher.

PS: Pump prevent flowback of oil to oil sump.

In theory, 10W40 or 15W50 can be used and it depend on the hydraulic pushrod of our engine.

GP used 15W50 because it will warmup the engine faster, juz like tyre that they use so that they can reach optimal hp at the shortest given time and prom to high wear n tear is not in their list.

Also bear in mind that at high temperature, 10W or 15W makes almost no different.

Most of us uses feeling when we change to a new oil.

One's man meat is another man posion. Juz that I feel that Motul Competition 300V is not my cup of tea. There is a similar product Motul Sport 300V(10W40) maybe suitable for my usage.

So much abt oil...... RIP.

Juz brought brake fluid DOT5.1.

Anyone interested to share?

It has higher Wet n Dry boiling point (abt 30'C higher than DOT4)

cougar · April 26, 2005

Originally posted by SiLvErGhOsT@Apr 25 2005, 11:02 PM
Hi Kevin,
I am using Motul V300 Fully Synthetic $22/L, considered (Yamaha GP racing Oil) this what they are using for GP. Yamaha Oil filter $22 also.
The longer I use...the engine feels smoother...I change around 5000+ - miles(8000km). As this is a Air Cool engine you cannot delay further on.

If it's a water-cool engine it can be use up to 10,000km.

You say that (Gilbert recommended you to use Honda oil filter($15) instead of Yamaha filter($22)

Guys, about the oil filter price, mine was a lot cheaper at $15 from Auto Machinery, its the same filter used by Vmax, XJR400, XJ900. Auto Machinery is off Kitchener Road, right turn after ParkView Hotel if you go via Serangoon road. Keep the previous filter box and go over the counter and show the staff, they will come back with one very fast.

Me too, looking for the T-tool for filter cap remover leh, where to find? Ah Boy recommended the Honda filter cap T-tool, maybe if Honda's filter fits ours, than the T-tool should be usable on Yamaha's filter. Cos last time i put the tool over the filter, that's a slight gap, duno if turn hard will slip anot, that's why didnt buy it.

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