Yamaha Diversion 900

jleo · November 23, 2004

Any updates on the dates???

OMD · November 24, 2004

Originally posted by jleo@Nov 24 2004, 12:59 AM
Any updates on the dates???

Nothing yet................

SiLvErGhOsT · November 25, 2004

Yo guys,

Sorry fella's I'm in a kind of busy, for the past few days as usual most of my collegues on holidays some of us must put those extra time! and need to do so...!till the begining of "05

Well back at home my maid on a month holiday she'll be back soon by the end of the month my kids in my mom place my wife and daughter on holidays too traveling me stuck at work place....!

The date is yet to fix sorry guys can anyone of you ... try to fix the date for the- meet up.

If I select a date and I don't turn up, it won't be nice so one of you try to fix a date I'll try to make it, but . no promises..

It looks like not me very busy but most of you were busy too!!!!

Maybe OMD you schedule a date! we yet to meet BP and he is very keen to meet us all!!!! If you or anybody schedules the date I try to SMS sunny and O2- O2 computer down by virus maybe always going to the wrong site he,he,he....

Silverghost

OMD · November 26, 2004

Originally posted by SiLvErGhOsT@Nov 26 2004, 02:52 AM
Yo guys,
Sorry fella's I'm in a kind of busy, for the past few days as usual most of my collegues on holidays some of us must put those extra time! and need to do so...!till the begining of "05
Well back at home my maid on a month holiday she'll be back soon by the end of the month my kids in my mom place my wife and daughter on holidays too traveling me stuck at work place....!

The date is yet to fix sorry guys can anyone of you ... try to fix the date for the- meet up.

If I select a date and I don't turn up, it won't be nice so one of you try to fix a date I'll try to make it, but . no promises..

It looks like not me very busy but most of you were busy too!!!!

Maybe OMD you schedule a date! we yet to meet BP and he is very keen to meet us all!!!! If you or anybody schedules the date I try to SMS sunny and O2- O2 computer down by virus maybe always going to the wrong site he,he,he....

Silverghost

SilverGhost,

I am afraid I am in the same predicament too. Now is the year end, school holidays, everyone going on leave. I am doing double shifts on most days, so I dare not commit on any dates.

I guess we have to KIV this meetup till 2005...............

From,

OMD

haroze · November 28, 2004

Hi guys....!

I've got bad news for our Singapore riders...yes,I'm not joking..! Why..? I've just went in JB to top-up and do my week-end routine. As I was about to leave the JPJ check point after the passport booth, I was stopped and was asked to pay my dues.Yes brothers...I'm not the only one.There were few of them with 'Busa,B/Bird/S4/R1 and many more.The date of offence that was committed were correct.I had two speeding offence at Seremban h/way (JB-KL) dated 10/10/2003 and 09/10/2004-Seremban-Ayer Keroh. All were in the morning.These were the days when I ride-up to watch motogp.Total amount was S$120/-...The best part is that when I asked them what was my offence,they showed it to me and I was mum,stunned,speechless.....! Why,by looking at the date and time the were correct.They say now they have no choice but to target Singapore bikes as well.They had closed one eye b4 but not now.....so my fellow riders,be warned and prepare to bring extra cash coz you would'nt know.Please pass this message.

jleo · November 28, 2004

Originally posted by haroze@Nov 28 2004, 10:31 PM
Hi guys....!
I've got bad news for our Singapore riders...yes,I'm not joking..! Why..? I've just went in JB to top-up and do my week-end routine. As I was about to leave the JPJ check point after the passport booth, I was stopped and was asked to pay my dues.Yes brothers...I'm not the only one.There were few of them with 'Busa,B/Bird/S4/R1 and many more.The date of offence that was committed were correct.I had two speeding offence at Seremban h/way (JB-KL) dated 10/10/2003 and 09/10/2004-Seremban-Ayer Keroh. All were in the morning.These were the days when I ride-up to watch motogp.Total amount was S$120/-...The best part is that when I asked them what was my offence,they showed it to me and I was mum,stunned,speechless.....! Why,by looking at the date and time the were correct.They say now they have no choice but to target Singapore bikes as well.They had closed one eye b4 but not now.....so my fellow riders,be warned and prepare to bring extra cash coz you would'nt know.Please pass this message.

It would be feasible to check online for any 'outstanding dues' as most head up north often.

Anyone knows of any sites to do this? The one i use always got problem accessing.

Ride safe during the rainy season guys.

Cheers.

casio · November 29, 2004

jleo

can try http://www.rilek.com.my

SDR · November 29, 2004

I am interested in this bike too, but agent told me that they stop production. It is the present TP bike, with adds on Shoulder, Taller fairing & Side panniers, all in was 19k. Worth it, bike is shaft driven, air cool, and if you look insdie the engine compartment, it's very empty, easy maintenance.

Didn't buy as think the speed was low. Then I was waiting for FJR1300, but later, just stick to my senior citizen bike. SAVE $$$.

OMD · November 30, 2004

Originally posted by SDR@Nov 29 2004, 10:18 AM
Didn't buy as think the speed was low. Then I was waiting for FJR1300, but later, just stick to my senior citizen bike. SAVE $$$.

Hiya,

What kind of speed are you planning to ride? We have tried riding the Divvy at 220km/h without any problem. If you are looking for higher speeds, then you can forget about shaft driven bikes, coz they do not have the top-end that you are looking for.

What is speed and power when you can't control it...................

From,

OMD

SDR · November 30, 2004

Originally posted by OMD@Nov 30 2004, 10:51 AM
Hiya,

What kind of speed are you planning to ride? We have tried riding the Divvy at 220km/h without any problem. If you are looking for higher speeds, then you can forget about shaft driven bikes, coz they do not have the top-end that you are looking for.

What is speed and power when you can't control it...................

From,
OMD

hmm, correct me if i m wrong. Vmax & FJR are shaft driven bikes, Think they hv no problem to perform above 250km/hr and above. rite?

it's the capacity 900cc and bhp of the bike. abit low, but like the naked body for easy maintenance of this bike. and most importantly $, and also i hv a similiar touring bike liao.

So did u fix what the TP fixed, shoulder protection (a must to fix, remembered Lee told me price is about $300+ for 2), tall windshield and side panniers, then spray matching colour, sure to be a beauty. As TP bike is really nice to look at, alway stare at their bike when c 1, until 1 day, a TP may don't like my stare and ask to stop to check my driving lic and bike, scarly.

OMD · November 30, 2004

Originally posted by SDR@Nov 30 2004, 01:59 PM
hmm, correct me if i m wrong. Vmax & FJR are shaft driven bikes, Think they hv no problem to perform above 250km/hr and above. rite?

it's the capacity 900cc and bhp of the bike. abit low, but like the naked body for easy maintenance of this bike. and most importantly $, and also i hv a similiar touring bike liao.

So did u fix what the TP fixed, shoulder protection (a must to fix, remembered Lee told me price is about $300+ for 2), tall windshield and side panniers, then spray matching colour, sure to be a beauty. As TP bike is really nice to look at, alway stare at their bike when c 1, until 1 day, a TP may don't like my stare and ask to stop to check my driving lic and bike, scarly.

SDR,

I think I am qualified to comment that for Vmax (see my signature), you cannot go beyond 245km/h. It has nothing to do with the engine capacity. Any 600cc sport bike can outrun you coz they are chain driven.

If you want speed and comfort, then the Divvy is not for you. Try looking at the Blackbird, it would suit you better.

From,

OMD

SiLvErGhOsT · December 8, 2004

Originally posted by SDR@Nov 30 2004, 01:59 PM
hmm, correct me if i m wrong. Vmax & FJR are shaft driven bikes, Think they hv no problem to perform above 250km/hr and above. rite?

it's the capacity 900cc and bhp of the bike. abit low, but like the naked body for easy maintenance of this bike. and most importantly $, and also i hv a similiar touring bike liao.

So did u fix what the TP fixed, shoulder protection (a must to fix, remembered Lee told me price is about $300+ for 2), tall windshield and side panniers, then spray matching colour, sure to be a beauty. As TP bike is really nice to look at, alway stare at their bike when c 1, until 1 day, a TP may don't like my stare and ask to stop to check my driving lic and bike, scarly.

Hi there SDR,

your Question is - hmm, correct me if i m wrong. Vmax & FJR are shaft driven bikes, Think they hv no problem to perform above 250km/hr and above.

Yo bro SDR, me give you some understanding of the bikes technology:-

1st Diversion is an air cooled, using oil cooler so you don't expect top speed out of it to the latest technology -whereby using water cooling system. (air cool system unable to disperse heat faster then water cool)

Those bikes you mention are water cooled- Vmax and FJR-!!!

If you wanted to get an air cooled bike their HP is limited regardless whethere you go for BM, Yam,Harly or any other make or CC.

BUT the overall maintenance is the factor where we handsome buggers bought this Diversion 900- the advantages are- shaft drive, centre stand, no radiator (to worry about water hose leaking or burst) comfortable seat, side panniers, reasonable fuel consumption, handling, speed, carburettor instead fuel injection and make other riders to look at your bike(envy) whether they are on R1 or hayabusa watching the gentleman on the Diversion.

You already said that -TP bike is really nice to look at, always stare at their bike.

As OMD says what speed you wanted to go- those speeding days are over bro- In SGP or M'sia, racing bikes are nice to admire and to own one but your tendency to speed is very,very high if you are a responsible person you will know what(bike) to choose taking consideration of road tax, insurance, quality tyres ,brake pads and so on-all are money brother not forgetting about summons inbetween too....

Any bikes you looking for or wanted to buy, Choose wisely, check about their characteristics on websites, bikes history, people who own-one or magazines...and make the road a safe place for yourself and everyone...

silverghost.

Custom · December 9, 2004

:thumb:

Looking at your comment, I think I'm admirer of old technology.

These r the reasons that I give up "Honda only" motto and go for this baby.

:smile:

Euro · December 9, 2004

Check out the waterfall... Which part of the world is it found?

cougar · December 9, 2004

Originally posted by SDR@Nov 30 2004, 01:59 PM
So did u fix what the TP fixed, shoulder protection (a must to fix, remembered Lee told me price is about $300+ for 2)

What is "shoulder protection"? U mean the crash bar sticking out of the frame or the 2 pc of plastic sticking out of the fairing?

Hey rest of the Divvy guys u r back?

SiLvErGhOsT · December 10, 2004

Hi Guys,

It's true after sometime everyone is back on the thread.... .. thats wonderfull..

Did anyone add (modify) a mud flap at the rear mudguard just infront of the rear-suspension to prevent dirt splashing that pick up by the tyre.... So far I know only Euro have it, after seeing his I did myself too.

How to do it, using those 4 litre detergent containers will do...!

a) Cut out using a heavy duty scissors/pen knife, 8cm by 17cm rectangle piece out, round the edges with a pair of scissors.

b) About punching holes mark where you going to punch the holes, make sure by measuring the plastic holding it against the inner rear-mudguard and the body frame were there is a cross bar (a small pipe with holes) adjust the plastic so it rest against the mudguard and on the cross bar.

c) Mark on the plastic, where the bar runs.

d) Need to make four holes, two on each side so that the cable tight able to go through and goes around the (pipe) frame. get it....

Not sure you guys can check out either Euro's or my bike. Now my rear suspension is very clean...

silverghost..

kevin · December 11, 2004

For the joy of reading, the below written article was from MSN Diversion.

Having owned Diversion 900`s a Fazer1000 and now an FJR1300 I thought you may be interested in how they compare.

Before I start this is based on my ownership of 3 different Diversion 900`s. One Fazer 1000 and my current bike an FJR1300. These are only my opinions so before any one says but you say it will do A,B,C and my bike will do X,Y,Z this is based on my riding style and is not a definitive test. I am not going to gloss over anything to make one bike seem better than the other.

Although they will all do pretty much the same thing they each have a different way of achieving it. For instance only 1 has a 4into1 exhaust, only 1 has chain drive, only 1 has an EXUP valve, only 1 has a power wind sheild, only 1 has a single head light and only one has fuel injection and so on.

To start with there is a vast difference in price in the 3 bikes. Even though there are no new 900`s left they were the cheapest option of the 3. There is also a difference in the way they are built. The 900 is the only bike of the 3 that was built down to a price, so as to be affordable transport for the commuter who may also like to tour.

The cheapest new price I have seen the 900 up for was £4,700

The Fazer 1000 can be had for £5,700 as an import. Official price is £6,700

The FJR1300 can be had for £8,450 as an import and will probably be an 02 model. Official price is £10,400 for the top of the range A.B.S. model.

Weight

The 900 is 241kg The Fazer 208kg and the FJR 244kg ABS model. These are Yamahas figures.

The Fazer is the light weight here and really does feel it.It can feel very twitchy at high speed and a few owners have fitted stearing dampers. However we are talking speeds of 135mph plus.

The 900 is in the middle but as it carries it`s weight high up so it feels the heaviest and can catch it`s owner out at bellow 5mph. Shorter owners may find that when it starts to go over then it`s just to late to do anything about it except to try and lay it down as gently as possible. I have seen quite a few 900`s dropped including mechanics dropping them while moving them around the workshop.

The FJR is the heavy weight but also the most balanced of the 3 so feels very stable at any and all speeds. It does feel heavy when moving it around but so long as you are aware of it the it`s not a problem.

Power

The 900 produces around 90bhp at the crank and is normal carb aspirated with 2 valves per cylinder.This helps with the torque output but the engine revs pick up the slowest of the 3. With 5 gears it`s not designed to be an out right traffic light Grand Prix winner. But 5 gears make for an easier and more relaxed ride. The 900 will go when push comes to shove, but it`s way down in the power to weight ratio stakes.

The Fazer uses the R1 engine and produces 143bhp at the crank again with carbs but 5 valves per cylinder, which makes for a faster pick up and harder revving and is the quickest of the 3 to build up it`s revs. It also has another trick up it`s sleeve and E.X.U.P. valve in the exhaust system that makes the bike produce more torque lower down the rev range than it would normally have. This gives amazing power in top gear from as little as 30mph. Starting on these bikes can be a real pain and most owners have a jet kit fitted which sorts the problem and also gives another 6bhp throughout the rev range. The torque figure the Fazer is 105.9Nm. The Fazer has a 6 speed box and will win most of the traffic light Grand Prix starts including ones against an R1 or a Blade, but only up to 80mph. But because the way the E.X.U.P. valve works you can stick it in top and use it like a bike with five gears.

The FJR uses technology derived from the R1 but is a totaly new engine and also develops 143bhp at the crank but with electronic fuel injection and 4 valves per cyclinder. Starting is just a case of press the button as the choke is fully automatic, although you can ride away before it`s warmed up the bike is capable of 50mph on choke alone in top gear. The fuel injection does produce a serging affect when traveling bellow 10 mph. It realies on it`s capasity for it`s torque which is easily the highest of the 3 at 134.4Nm.The FJR also has 5 gears and isn`t going to win at the traffic light Grand Prix. But 5 gears make for an easier and more relaxed ride. Not that the FJR can`t pick up it`s shirt tails and go when asked to. It`s just not designed to be that kind of bike.

All 3 bikes will float the front wheel above the tarmac if given a good hand full of revs, but the Fazer will go truly air born with just wiff more.

Speed and Fuel Consumption

The 900 tops out at a realistic 130mph which is more than quick enough for it`s brakes. 60 mph in top gear is at 4,000 rpm and the red line starts at 9,500.

The Fazer has a top speed of 155/160mph and 60 mph in top gear is at 4,000 rpm and the red line starts at 11,500

The FJR also has a top speed of 155/160mph and 60 mph in top gear is at 3,500 rpm and the red line starts at 9,500

As you can see from the figures the FJR has the most relaxed engine, as with the most torque available it dosn`t need to rev as high to produce the same speed as the other 2 bikes.

The 900 returned an average of 45pmg with a best of 50mpg and a worst of 38mpg.

The Fazer returned an average of 47pmg with a best of 52mpg and a worst of 35mpg. "This figure is according to those I have spoken to that use it to commute, I never did."

Now the FJR upsets the apple cart by returning an average of 50mpg and a best so far of 54mpg. This was obtained on the last group run we did (Staffs & Shrops). As the engine is still tight with only 3,500 miles I expect this to get better towards 6,000 miles, this is when most Yamahas are truly run in and the engine in it`s best condition. These fuel figures I would attribute to i`ts fuel injection and full fairing. The faster you go the more wind resistance plays a part and the other 2 bikes only have partial fairings. I can`t say what it`s worst figure would be as I don`t commute on it.

Tank range on the 3 bikes before reserve are The 900 = 180miles The Fazer = 180miles and The FJR = 240miles

Stopping

This is were the 900 really falls down against the other 2 bikes which it must be pointed out are at least 20 years in front with brake technology. The 900 is a heavy bike to hall to a stop and fitting braided hoses and H&H brake pads improves the plot.

Both the Fazer and the FJR use the R1 calipers up front but only the Fazer has the R1 brakes at the rear. The FJR has a single piston Brembo system that while is good would have been much better if like the Fazer it had a R1 unit. So what makes these calipers so good, well they are cast in a single unit, unlike the 900`s which are 2 halves bolted together and there fore don`t splay apart when the pistons push on the brake pads. Also these 2 bikes have modern floating disk roters. So the caliper stays still and the roter moves from side to side, this allows for finer tolerances and so faster and more powerful brakes.

The Fazer being lighter than the FJR can stop quicker but both bikes are easily stood on there front wheel by applying the front brake with only 2 or 3 fingers. Now this sounds scary and the brakes do take some getting used to after the 900. But I would rather have to much brake than not enough. I looked into fitting these brakes to the last 900 I owned and it was going to cost around £1000 in dona parts from a TDM900.

Handling

The 900 is bound to loose out if the 3 bikes are put up against each other as it is based on 1980`s technoligy. Not to say it`s bad though. It hasn`t got the sharper steering of the other 2 and the tyre section is a bit narrow for sports riding. But this is not what the bike was designed for or about. Front and rear suspension are simple units for the job and on later models the front forks have pre load adjusters.

The Fazer was designed to keep up with sports bikes in the real world ie on the road. And I can tell you that it does it quite easily. The original tyres are crap to say the least and the bike really comes alive when shod with Pirelli Diablos. They let the bike tip in and out a lot faster and the wear rate is very good at least as good as the original tyres if not better. We are talking 7,000miles from a rear. Suspension is adjustable for pre load, compression damping and rebound damping on both the front and rear. Straight from the factory the bike is settings are way out for the average rider never mind anyone who wants to use the full potential of the R1 motor but a bit of fiddling can drastically improve the plot. However riders of 18 stone or more have found that the rear spring is way to soft and have had to have an upgraded spring fitted.

The FJR is no slouch and dosn`t seem follow suite in the tourer stakes, which is why it`s billed as a Sports Tourer. The FJR shares the same down fall as the Fazer as it to comes with Metzler K4`s but the extra weight of the bike makes the tyres warm up better and so they have a little more grip on this bike. It`s massive alloy frame keeps the hole plot tightly together and with 48mm forks up front there is never any sign of the bikes weight getting out of control. Suspension is adjustable for pre load, compression damping and rebound damping on the front only. The rear unit has adjustment for pre load and rebound damping only. The rear adjuster for the preload is a simple lever system at the side of the frame that is set to either hard or soft. From the factory the bike is set up pretty much spot on.

All 3 bikes benefit from a fork oil change as the oil Yamaha use has past it`s sell by date at around 3,000 miles. Also there are manufactures that will sell upgraded front and rear suspension parts and units for all 3 bikes and if fitted make a huge difference. But you are talking any ware from £60 to £800 and the average rider would never need to go down that route.

Comfort

All 3 bikes are of the same sit up and beg style so they are comfortable on a long journey unlike modern sports bikes. By my standard the 900 was good for 30 minutes before my bum needed a brake, the Fazer 40 minutes and the FJR 60 minutes. But then again a Goldwing was only good for 50 minutes. The problem is I have no natural rear padding. The fairings on the 900 and the Fazer are pretty much the same and both benefit from a taller screen being fitted. This is were the FJR comes into it`s own with a full fairing that gives good weather protection and an adjustable even while on the move screen. The screen is electrically adjustable via a rocker switch on the handle bars. The only problem is that as soon as you switch the bike of the screen resets to a parking position. This is easily over come by pulling a loop wire and then it just stays were you leave it when the ignition is switched of.

Both the 900 and the Fazer have conventional bars and so can be changed and the Fazer works well with Renthal 758`s which give a lot better feel. The FJR has 2 separate cast alloy bars and they can`t be adjusted. however after market risers are available to give lift and rake, but at a cost of around £90. Also the FJR has the lowest seat hight of the 3 bikes and is the only 1 of the 3 that has a split seat (the rider and passenger seats are 2 separate units).

Luggage

The 900 can be fitted with after market rack top box and panniers quite easily and can carry as much as a mule.

The Fazer also can be fitted with after market rack top box and panniers quite easily, but the side rails are tubular and there is a weight restriction issued on them by the manufacturer.

The FJR has it`s own dedicated luggage but at a price, £500 for the paniers and around £400 for the top box. All use the same key as the ignition and come colour coded to the bikes paint scheme. However they do not offer the same internal volume as some of the after market ones as around 10% of the internal space is taken up by the locking mechanism. The panniers do however look an integral part of the bike when fitted.

Lights

The 900 has a single head light and will restrict the speed the rider can travel at on unlit country lanes. Fitting a Philips Osram bulb will improve this but it`s not going to be as good as the other 2 bikes.

Both the Fazer and the FJR have 2 head lights which are individual units that make up single beam. The left unit lights up from the left to the centre ans the right unit from the right to the centre. This give a good powerful spread of light. Out of the 2 though the FJR has the better by around 20% and this can be noticed when you travel the same road on the 2 bikes. The FJR can be ridden 10mph quicker in the same circumstances.

The rear lights on the 900 and the Fazer I always thought were fine until I had the FJR and then I realized how much better they could be. The bigger the better to stop those car driver running up your backside. Especially when you have descent brakes.

Running Costs

The 900 is group 12 when it comes to insurance and with no chain or sprockets to purchase you will save a bit of cash. It dosn`t use the ecsotic tyres of a race replica so they arn`t going to cost you an arm and a leg to replace.I used to run my 900`s on Contiforce tyres but a lot of riders have said that Bridgstone 020`s are the way to go. Like the FJR Avon Azores can be used and at lest one rider I know has them on and is pleased with them. Sooner or later you are going to have to fork out for a new exhaust system on the 900 as it will rot away. The other 2 have full stainless systems so should last the life of the bike.

The Fazer is group 15 because of that R1 engine that Yamaha thankfully didn`t newter but just re tuned to produce the power lower down the rev range. Being a chain drive bike unlike the other 2 it has an extra cost to factor in, but the chain and sprockets should last a good 18,000 at least if kept clean and lubricated. There is now a belt drive conversion available and the belt lasts 30,000miles. It would also give back a few more bhp. Tyres well you can take your pick from cheap and cheerful to the stickiest ones on the market. but the ones that suit it best are Diablos, quick to warm up with excellent grip and a good life expectancy.

The FJR is group 14 and like the 900 is shaft so a saving there. Tyres can be chewed up in half the time it takes the other 2 bikes but thats only if you are ham fisted with the throttle and you are then in either the wrong company for a ride out or even riding the wrong type of bike for your needs. Avon Azores seem to be the favorite fitting and are nearly as good as the Diablos that I fitted to the Fazer.

Fuel wise none of these bikes will break the bank to run unless you abuse the throttle.

Updates to the Models

The 900 is no longer in production as the last round of euro laws killed it of for it`s emisions.Yamaha did update the bike slightly with a different seat cover, they moved the choke from a pull type in the centre of the handle bars to a thumb controlled unit on the left handle bar, the front brake pipes were changed but with no change to braking forces, also later models had an 18" rear wheel fitted instead of the 17". They also added hazard warnings on later models.

The Fazer while still in production at the moment looks to go through a big change after the next round of euro laws in mid 2006. It looks as though the Fazer will fall foul of them for it`s emisions. It looks like getting the new R1 fuel injection engine along with a catalytic convertor. The only change in it`s life so far is that Yamaha tried to sort the poor starting problem by shimming 2 of the fuel needles higher. However this didn`t work as it wasn`t the problem. The problem is that while the bike is standing there is a bleed over of fuel vapor into the cyclinder and so the plugs and cyclinders are to wet with stale fuel to let the bike start. Lowering the float hight and setting the mixture screws properly helps a great deal. Haven`t seen a Fazer that came out of the factory that had all it`s mixture screws all set at the same level. Also the throttle position censor is usually way out. A jet kit sorts the problem as well but that`s because while fitting the kit you set the carbs and T.P.S. up properly.

The FJR was built to pass the next round of euro laws and the one after and should be good till 2012. It comes with clean fuel injection and a catalytic convertor as standard. So far Yamaha have only upgraded the front brake rotors to give it a bit more stopping power, fitted a tiny glove box in the left hand side of the fairing and changed the front indicators to integral molded ones.

After market addons

Sensible addons that will enhance the ownership and longevity of the bikes are widely available.

On my 900`s I fitted braided hoses to help with the braking. A fender extender at the front to keep down the amount of crap chucked up of the front wheel onto the engine and header pipes. A hugger at the rear to stop the swinging arm getting grit blasted and there fore going rusty, it also keeps the rear shock cleaner and so aids it`s life expectancy. A higher wattage head lamp bulb for better visibility. A taller screen for added comfort at speed. And the usual heated grips for colder weather riding. Luggage and a alarm to help keep the bike in my possession.

The Fazer had no expense spared on it. With all the above and a jet kit and an after market silencer to make it sound a little more fruity. Renthal alloy bars look the business and give even more control. A stainless radiator grill was also fitted in palce of the steel one. Givi luggage has always been my favorite and an alarm was fitted to help keep the bike in my possession.

The FJR dosn`t need a rear hugger as it comes with a rubber flap that does the trick. But it still will have money spent on it as I want to fit a Power Commander to get rid of the serging at low speeds. Heated grips, braided hoses and a fender extender have all been fitted. A stainless radiator grill has been fitted as a must, because Yamaha don`t fit a grill as standard and that radiator is in the right place for a stone to go straight through it, other owners have had it happen. An a larm to help keep the bike in my possession has also been fitted.

Carberation jet kits

The 900 benefits from a jet kit with a cleaner pick up of revs and about 3 to 4bhp more through out the rev range. I could have also sworn that it cut down on the vibrations at 4,500rmp. It was about an hours job to do.

The Fazer realy improves alot from a jet kit which cost me £94 from Ivans Performance. It took around 2 and 1/2 hours to fit as there is a lot more to taking the bank of carbs of the Fazer. It gave 6bhp through out the rev range, made the bike a lot easier to start after an over nite stop and smoothed most of the remaining vibrations out. It also had the effect of making the step up in power from the EXUP valve opening at 5,500rpm vanish. The bikes torque curve was more linnier and there for smoother.

The FJR can`t have a jet kit fitted as it hasn`t got any jets to change. Instead it uses electronic fuel injection. So it needs a box of tricks to do the job. This is called a Power Commander and pugs in, in between the fuel injectors and the bikes ECU and takes about 10 minutes to fit, then it`s a simple matter of hooking the Power Commander up to a PC through a USB lead and flashing a new fuel map in. There are around 9 different fuel maps out there that can be used and they do different things. Some are for out and out performance while others are for fuel economy. The one I will be using is the Smoothness map which has been designed to get rid of the serging that happens at low speeds, with out affecting economy or performance. Also with the programme supplied you can build your own maps. The cost of this is higher than a jet kit though at £275.

Problems

These bikes are Japanese so they are reliable from the start, but like anything in life they have a few niggling problems.

The 900`s fuel sender can pack up and it has been well documented on this site how to fix it.The exhausts will give up the ghost around the join between the silencer and the collector box.The rear swinging arm will rust if not protected from grit being blasting at it from the rear tyre.The frame can rust around the weld areas as the paint seems thinner there.Swinging arm bearing have been known to collapse as they don`t have enough grease in them from the start,also the bearings in the rear suspension linkages can go the same way.These are easily sorted by stripping and greasing with a good water proof grease.The rear shock adjustment ring can seize if not loobed or used for a long time, another easy one to prevent.

The Fazer uses a well proven R1 mill so no problems there but as with the R1 it uses the EXUP valve and these have been known to seize solid. Can be prevented with regular maintenance. Handle bars are steel and rust under the throttle grip and have also been known to bend if to many wheelies are done. Like most Yams the swinging arm bearings and suspension linkages don`t have enough grease on them so need looking after. Those R1 calipers can seize if not washed out regular after the bike has been used on salted roads, just a simple case of swilling them of with cold water. The starting problem I have covered else ware and effects around 8 out of every 10 bikes from new, there is a knack to starting them from an over night stop.

The FJR is built like a tank, but some of the early 01 bikes had to have there cylinder heads replaced under warranty as the valve seats were to soft and burnt away. As with the Fazer the R1 callapers can seize if not washed out regular after the bike has been used on salted roads, just a simple case of swilling them of with cold water. As with the other 2 bikes bearings and linkages need attention as they to suffer from a lack of grease.

Vibration

The vibration on the 900 is another well documented talking point on this site. It happens around 4,500 revs and can vary from bike to bike. Even when the carbs are balanced, valve clearances checked and the T.P.S. set correctly the bike will produce a vibration that can be felt through the handle bars, foot pegs and tank. Although it is felt less through the tank when full. It`s not something that is going to ruin your ride but it is there.

The Fazer also has what some would call a rough patch, but when the carbs are balanced, the T.P.S. and the E.X.U.P. valve set correctly it is less than the 900. One two or all three of the mentioned settings will from the factory be wrong. I don`t know what happens on the Fazer production line but Yamaha need to look into these settings.

The FJR well it is just liquid smooth from 0 to 9,000 revs. Don`t get me wrong there are vibrations there as you can`t have an inline four that won`t produce vibrations. But the FJR`s ballancer shafts inside the engine cut them down so much that you never feel them.

To sum up

If you want a cheap easy going all rounder you could do far worse than choose the Diversion 900. It`s no thrills package suits commuting and touring alike. With a huge fan club as you know and a wealth of knowledge that can be gleamed from this site alone. It`s finish does take a battering if not looked after. The engine is good for 180,000 miles if looked after but can also die in just 60,000 miles if abused. There are cheap bargains out there to be had for as little as £900 but be aware that dispatch riders love and abuse them.

If you want a little insanity in your life then the Fazer 1000 will provide it by the truck load. It`s able to commute, tour and keep up with all but the fastest race replica. Twist the throttle and watch the world go into reverse, twist it just that little bit quicker and you will be looking at the sky. The brakes are perfectly matched to the engine and it can stop even quicker than it goes. It will put a smile on your face every time you go out, that a surgeon would have a problem removing.

If money isn`t a factor and mile munching in comfort is then the FJR is your baby. This bike is like the little PacMan character munching up the dots, only with this it is the black tarmac beneath. It will sit quite happily at 130mph all day long. It was built to cross countries in a day and leave the rider feeling like he is ready for more. Europe beckons.

Foot note

Between the bikes I have covered over 70,000 miles and toured 6 different countries, all have done there job and never let me down and I would recommend all 3 of them.

Which one was or is my favorite, well it would have to be the all amazing Fazer. If for nothing else but the grin factor alone. But time moves on and alements meant the Fazer had to give way to the FJR.

In an ideal world I would have the 900 for the group runs, the Fazer for those moments when only a good blast will clear the system of all the worlds pressures and the FJR to tour in comfort ie 400miles a day.

cougar · December 11, 2004

Why reviews all three Yamaha bikes, this guy is a Yamaha fan / employee?

SiLvErGhOsT · December 13, 2004

Originally posted by cougar@Dec 11 2004, 07:57 PM
Why reviews all three Yamaha bikes, this guy is a Yamaha fan / employee?

Hi cougar,

As kevin said, he took it out from the MSN Diversion site, which is OK! for reading pleasure but we are not comparing from bike to bike where there you can spell out all those pros and cons...

Some of the facts are true there are no denial, if wanted to compare who bike is better there won't be an ending...but from which point of view the arguments begin..!

To Kevin.. anyway thank you, for your time..

Kevin, have we met before !! most likely we might have a gathering next month, as for this month (Dec) chances for gathering are very slilm. as most of as handsome buggers are on tight schedules till begin of "05"..

Kevin Just a question? , are you the guy from YNDC...you post your bike and load up those TP bikes...if you are the guy nice to know you...!

silverghost

kevin · December 13, 2004

Originally posted by SiLvErGhOsT@Dec 13 2004, 10:15 AM
Hi cougar,
As kevin said, he took it out from the MSN Diversion site, which is OK! for reading pleasure but we are not comparing from bike to bike where there you can spell out all those pros and cons...
Some of the facts are true there are no denial, if wanted to compare who bike is better there won't be an ending...but from which point of view the arguments begin..!

To Kevin.. anyway thank you, for your time..

Kevin, have we met before !! most likely we might have a gathering next month, as for this month (Dec) chances for gathering are very slilm. as most of as handsome buggers are on tight schedules till begin of "05"..

Kevin Just a question? , are you the guy from YNDC...you post your bike and load up those TP bikes...if you are the guy nice to know you...!

silverghost

Yap, the article is for reading pleasure only.

Yap, Silverghost, I uploaded the pic at MSN & YDCN sites.

I guest we have met before during our first gathering last year, if not then it must be along CTE few months ago. I am still riding one of the few black 00' divvy, exactly 4 years now. I think i will still ride it for another 4 years, the bike is still in tip top condition & trouble free.

kevin · December 13, 2004

Originally posted by kevin@Dec 13 2004, 03:10 PM

Here is another pic.

SiLvErGhOsT · December 13, 2004

Originally posted by cougar@Dec 9 2004, 09:35 PM
What is "shoulder protection"? U mean the crash bar sticking out of the frame or the 2 pc of plastic sticking out of the fairing?

Hey rest of the Divvy guys u r back?

Hi cougar,

If I'm not wrong he(SDR) means those fairing extenders; yup! those found on TP bikes....good weather protection for the upper body..

But if you wanted to do that on your bike, you need to change your handle bar too not forgetting- maybe those wirings and cables...are effected.. spent more then you intend to...$$$+ It partially effects your bike handling during high speed..(especially cornering)

I stick to the OEM handle bar why? during rides I have the feedback from the front wheel compare to those extended handle bars.

Extended bars are very neutral-no feed back at all, but it is good for a relax ride !!!(with the full package including those fairing extenders) good for long journeys...

Cougar you ever told me that, you wanted to add a back rest...to your bike so how have you done it...

Silverghost.

Euro · December 13, 2004

SG, i saw Kevin's pictures at MSN last time too!

Kevin, Great to know that you are still riding your divvy...! The 2 pics that you just posted... Seems like they are for an inspection after a wash... With such great pics, I guess you must be a fellow colleague?

More pics please! :bounce:

cougar · December 14, 2004

Originally posted by SiLvErGhOsT@Dec 14 2004, 12:58 AM
Hi cougar,
Cougar you ever told me that, you wanted to add a back rest...to your bike so how have you done it...

Silverghost.

SilverGhost, nope, my wife decide not to ride on my bike so often now, so i hv the bike more for my pleasure!!! Due to the fact we maybe gettin a small van for the family.

Custom · December 14, 2004

Originally posted by SiLvErGhOsT@Dec 14 2004, 12:58 AM
Hi cougar,
If I'm not wrong he(SDR) means those fairing extenders; yup! those found on TP bikes....good weather protection for the upper body..

But if you wanted to do that on your bike, you need to change your handle bar too not forgetting- maybe those wirings and cables...are effected.. spent more then you intend to...$$$+ It partially effects your bike handling during high speed..(especially cornering)

SG,

Don't need to change the bar, cable & wire if u fix the "wing".

I'm in a project of changing the handle bar but couldn't find time to do it.

Got the handlebar for abt 1mth+ and still lying at my store room.

O2,

how is your "brakeing" project going on?

Any updates?

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