[Group] Super Four Non-VTEC Family: PB1 VerR & VerS

[xiaobanz]

:cry:First of all, I would like to say that today happens to be the most sickening day. I knew that for the past week I had this problem of overheating in my engine. Now my engine sounds like kacang goreng. Last two weeks i had change and flush my eo and coolant respectively. And you know what happened? Upon hearing the bike's engine, my mech told me to strip down the engine as to see what's wrong with it.

 

Suddenly, when he pull out the rubber hose for the water pump inlet, I and the mech looked at each other and was surprised by the amount of water that came out. There was not much water that came out pouring and I was like "OH MY GOD!!" There was no liquid at all. I have been riding with less than a redbull can of water in my radiator. My temp lights did not indicate any overheating. How could I have been so stupid!!

 

I knew that there was leaking going on near the water pump hose, but don't tell me that it was gone not even more that 2weeks?? I feel sick. This is my first 400cc bike and I had spend lots on it. Now the mech is advising me to not to upgrade to a bigger bike as I told him that I might wanna get a litre bike after I get my cls 2. He said that since I have 9 more yrs of COE on this Ver S, it's better to do the bike and stay with it till the end. After the checks on all, he quoted me $2460 for all.

 

He's getting a new set of block as the wall that I have is already too thin, have scratches like nobody business and can't be rebore anymore, change timing chain(rough edges), change water pump, new set of hoses, change clucth plate... and the list goes on..

 

Haiya, what kind of a dump luck I have. Just dump luck!! And now I need to find at least 2k for the spare parts first he says, at least he can assemble everything up for me and I can pay the rest later, slowly. Man, I need to beg,borrow or steal.

 

Just so you guys know, please do maintain your old bikes periodically and make sure that all electronics are in working condition, and pay attention to details. Ask around for help and make sure you have freinds of the same bike models like yours.

 

I'm a family man, so my hours are mostly spent with family, hence the problem that are unforeseen. Since the bike is now waiting for me to strike 4D or toto, I am aware that taking a bus to work is still okay. :cry:

 

Actually that time when i was at a DIY session with ah pek, i think what he told me is quite true and reasonable. "A super four is a hardy bike, you just have to give it good maintainence, it will work well. Good FC, easy maintainence, smooth and relatively fast (not to compare with class 2). So do what you need to do and enjoy the ride."

 

From his enlightenment, i have allocated some cash and cater to making the engine smoother and hardy first b4 going to cosmetic.

[leother]

thanks a lot xiaobanz, it seems that lim ah boy at kelantan is the best choice..

[Darkness19]

thanks a lot xiaobanz, it seems that lim ah boy at kelantan is the best choice..

 

yes at there they have all kind of accessories

[stRobe]

I brought my bike down to a bike shop at bukit batok and they say my clutch rubber is wearing off. Actually i also think so cos when i change gear will jerk and not smooth like my previous bike. Some of my frenz say go planet motors but cos i didn't go there b4 wanna ask how's their charges for clutch plate. Cos nv see how they do things b4 so not too sure. Some more changing of clutch plates must change EO but i wanna use ah pek's blend.. hmm.. sad..

 

Planet charges about $110 for changing clutch plates without eo change.

 

Its not compulsory to change eo at the same time, though many shops will try to get you to do so. They want your money, after all. The mechanic can just tilt the bike on its side stand and change the plates. That's all.

[stRobe]

Howdy guys, I have a PB1 here in the philippines and was hoping you can help me find the best bargain shops for my bike.

Shoplist:

1) engine side cover fairings

2) K & N air filter

3) belly pan for aftermarket full system exhaust(tried one before, but did not fit, needs a wider one for the 4 manifolds)

4) double bubble windscreen

5) led signal lights( do u have double contacts here)

6)predator mask headlights looks nice(any advice)

7) rider apparels and gears

8) other suggestions from you!!!

thanks in advance!

ride safe!

:cheeky:

 

Is it cheaper to buy accessories in singapore than in the Philippines?

[holugyi]

I brought my bike down to a bike shop at bukit batok and they say my clutch rubber is wearing off. Actually i also think so cos when i change gear will jerk and not smooth like my previous bike. Some of my frenz say go planet motors but cos i didn't go there b4 wanna ask how's their charges for clutch plate. Cos nv see how they do things b4 so not too sure. Some more changing of clutch plates must change EO but i wanna use ah pek's blend.. hmm.. sad..

 

 

HI man... U shld b change 1 st clutch cable, then see n try. last , I saw ur cable was bad condition..

[xiaobanz]

Planet charges about $110 for changing clutch plates without eo change.

 

Its not compulsory to change eo at the same time, though many shops will try to get you to do so. They want your money, after all. The mechanic can just tilt the bike on its side stand and change the plates. That's all.

 

Ya I don't wanna change my EO cos i wanna use Ah pek's blend.. So was thinking if any shop can do that. But if tell ask ah chong i don't wanna change EO he will juz tilt it right?

[xiaobanz]

HI man... U shld b change 1 st clutch cable, then see n try. last , I saw ur cable was bad condition..

 

Ya i did my clutch cable le.. It's very good now.. But then after changing clutch cable, i find that my clutch rubber like wearing off. Like that time when i was riding my cub. When clutch rubber wearing off will have a sudden jerk everytime you change gear.. SO should be ba..

[ballzz78]

Woohoo!! Just changed to a new pair of Michelin Pilot Power!! Damn nice sia. Now tyre still haven't season yet. Cannot corner too much. Muahahahahaha!!

[Dimac]

ah pek.. dat time u told me to buy silicone at ntuc for my front headlight called what name?

 

btw, salih colleague wanted to do service with u.. he asked me ur number but i refused to give as it is inapproatiate to give it like nobody business..

 

u still need the voltmeter eh?

[hanxx]

heyy bro & sis out there..need some help here.

im getting a version s.

coe:2017 price:3.9k

 

below are the details:

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236664

 

any suggestions?isit worth the buy?

Thanks!

 

anyway, anyone care to explain whats revtec?

(:

[xiaobanz]

ah pek.. dat time u told me to buy silicone at ntuc for my front headlight called what name?

 

btw, salih colleague wanted to do service with u.. he asked me ur number but i refused to give as it is inapproatiate to give it like nobody business..

 

u still need the voltmeter eh?

 

Ah pek went to vietnam le will be back only this friday or sat. Btw your silicone is used to stablise your head light?

[Dimac]

Ah pek went to vietnam le will be back only this friday or sat. Btw your silicone is used to stablise your head light?

 

ohh i see.. remember my bike wif the rxz headlight, one side of it broken..

[leother]

Is it cheaper to buy accessories in singapore than in the Philippines?

 

as per earlier canvas, it looks like it is! and i was hoping to find new stuffs that hasn't landed in Manila yet, like the engine fairing cover and the predator face mask headlight, anymore suggestions?

[xiaobanz]

heyy bro & sis out there..need some help here.

im getting a version s.

coe:2017 price:3.9k

 

below are the details:

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236664

 

any suggestions?isit worth the buy?

Thanks!

 

anyway, anyone care to explain whats revtec?

(:

 

From the looks of it and the parts not too bad... Quite a good buy. but provided you go and properly test the bike out first. B4 transfer check if what the previous own states there is what he will give you. The most impt thing about verS is the engine, cos old bike le, must listen and rev the engine to test the sound. Get pple whom know about super four to go down with you. Overall looks good.

 

Btw the engine block from the picture a bit dirty.. You might wanna check it. Most important, check the coolant and coolant hoses. As what i've learnt from ah pek, coolant hoses should be spongy when press. On the right hand panel if you can remove it check the coolant reservoir. That's all..

 

All i learn from ah pek's DIY session.

[hanxx]

From the looks of it and the parts not too bad... Quite a good buy. but provided you go and properly test the bike out first. B4 transfer check if what the previous own states there is what he will give you. The most impt thing about verS is the engine, cos old bike le, must listen and rev the engine to test the sound. Get pple whom know about super four to go down with you. Overall looks good.

 

Btw the engine block from the picture a bit dirty.. You might wanna check it. Most important, check the coolant and coolant hoses. As what i've learnt from ah pek, coolant hoses should be spongy when press. On the right hand panel if you can remove it check the coolant reservoir. That's all..

 

All i learn from ah pek's DIY session.

 

yeah bro tested the bike already.was good and buyer was kind to explain and honest telling me fork leak and all,but he will do repair before hand over to me.

Engine wise sounds good and no funny noises coming out.test ride was smooth.but just too bad nobody whom i know rides s4 if not can go along with me.

 

according to him as well as the receipt he showed me,he did went to shop to polish block and piston jus recently(april).and bike has been layed up for few weeks.

 

bro maybe u can enlighten me on how i can check the coolant part?

anyway, i read the few hundreds page of this forum topic,ah pek seemed to appear everywhere and seemed friendly to help everyone.upppp for him!

 

lol.and of cos..thanks for the info and knowledge.

uppppppppp for non-vtecian!

[hanxx]

heyy bro & sis out there..need some help here.

im getting a version s.

coe:2017 price:3.9k

 

below are the details:

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums...d.php?t=236664

 

any suggestions?isit worth the buy?

Thanks!

 

 

anyway, anyone care to explain whats revtec?

 

*Do feel free to contribute any comments,good or bad will be appreciated.(:

[stRobe]

yeah bro tested the bike already.was good and buyer was kind to explain and honest telling me fork leak and all,but he will do repair before hand over to me.

Engine wise sounds good and no funny noises coming out.test ride was smooth.but just too bad nobody whom i know rides s4 if not can go along with me.

 

according to him as well as the receipt he showed me,he did went to shop to polish block and piston jus recently(april).and bike has been layed up for few weeks.

 

bro maybe u can enlighten me on how i can check the coolant part?

anyway, i read the few hundreds page of this forum topic,ah pek seemed to appear everywhere and seemed friendly to help everyone.upppp for him!

 

lol.and of cos..thanks for the info and knowledge.

uppppppppp for non-vtecian!

 

As mentioned, squeeze the coolent hoses to check whether they are due for replacement. New hoses should be spongy. It should NOT be gritty (ie like crushing biscuits). Another sign of old hoses is the coolent dripping out when you squeeze the hose.

 

Just note that the ver S has 7-8 hoses, if im not wrong. 2 hoses are not accessible as they are located under the carbs (ie, you cannot reach out and squeeze them unless your arms are the size of a baby's). If you are unsure where they are, ask the seller to point them out to you with the engine running. Any leak from these 2 hoses, you should be able to see it.

 

Anyway, the seller did state that he has changed his coolent hose and water pump. If he has changed ALL the coolent hoses and the water pump, then good for you.

 

btw, I guess one of the plus points of the bike is the MICRON end can!

[Ah Pek]

ah pek.. dat time u told me to buy silicone at ntuc for my front headlight called what name?

 

btw, salih colleague wanted to do service with u.. he asked me ur number but i refused to give as it is inapproatiate to give it like nobody business..

 

u still need the voltmeter eh?

 

Voltmeter?..yah..it be nice if you can pick one up for me if you r on the way.

 

The Silicon spray is not from NTUC..but can get "SC1" from Mustaffa or two to three shop from 209 (same as 219 at Lenvander)..its a sjop with an eldery lady (50s) and a eldery guy..you can find "Rock Oil" Silicon spray there.

 

It's okay to give the number but I'm in Vietnam now till next week.

[hanxx]

As mentioned, squeeze the coolent hoses to check whether they are due for replacement. New hoses should be spongy. It should NOT be gritty (ie like crushing biscuits). Another sign of old hoses is the coolent dripping out when you squeeze the hose.

 

Just note that the ver S has 7-8 hoses, if im not wrong. 2 hoses are not accessible as they are located under the carbs (ie, you cannot reach out and squeeze them unless your arms are the size of a baby's). If you are unsure where they are, ask the seller to point them out to you with the engine running. Any leak from these 2 hoses, you should be able to see it.

 

Anyway, the seller did state that he has changed his coolent hose and water pump. If he has changed ALL the coolent hoses and the water pump, then good for you.

 

btw, I guess one of the plus points of the bike is the MICRON end can!

 

bro thanks!

appreciate ur help.

hopefully when i get my ver s by end of this month, will be a regular in this thread.haha.

have a great week for all!

[xiaobanz]

Haha sure do. Do join us for ah pek's DIY session. i think after ah pek's back i would like to go down again. Cos i wanna change head light to the original i bought from yeoo. Then was hoping ah pek can supervise on how to do it right.

 

Btw ah pek back or he access internet from Vietnam?

 

P.S GPR pipe is louder.. haha.

[Tanaka]

Ya I don't wanna change my EO cos i wanna use Ah pek's blend.. So was thinking if any shop can do that. But if tell ask ah chong i don't wanna change EO he will juz tilt it right?

 

Wah it seems that Ah pek's EO blend is good, my bike is due for EO change, i also want to try it out. How much is the EO blend?

 

Where to get this X1R? should be from Ah pek cos i remember i saw a post by ah pek that he have the best deal for X1R. add to tank or mix with EO?

[freakyzan]

My project big had issues this morning on the road. I suddenly loss power in 6th gear, and i thought i was in wrong gear or something. I kick down to 5th, then tried accelerating again but soon it lost more power and the oil indicator lit up and the bike just went dead. Luckily i was on travelling down slope into expressway exit.

 

I not sure if its the battery, rectifier or charging coil as to what my friend has told me. Anyone here faced the same problem before?

[alex2704]

My project big had issues this morning on the road. I suddenly loss power in 6th gear, and i thought i was in wrong gear or something. I kick down to 5th, then tried accelerating again but soon it lost more power and the oil indicator lit up and the bike just went dead. Luckily i was on travelling down slope into expressway exit.

 

I not sure if its the battery, rectifier or charging coil as to what my friend has told me. Anyone here faced the same problem before?

 

isit no more petrol or wat???coz last time i oso like tat..but in the end is no more petrol...lol...

[xiaobanz]

Wah it seems that Ah pek's EO blend is good, my bike is due for EO change, i also want to try it out. How much is the EO blend?

 

Where to get this X1R? should be from Ah pek cos i remember i saw a post by ah pek that he have the best deal for X1R. add to tank or mix with EO?

 

Ah pek use a special blend for bikes. But usually he will have to take 3 weeks to let the blend fully mix together.. So once he comes back you guys juz tell him then he blend for you. x1r is added to EO juz like OWS. I haven really try x1r. But my nxt oil change i will go with ah pek's blend..