Suzuki Hayabusa

[keratsini]

Bro, how things?

Nice seeing u.

 

Hi my friend.So far so good. Busy with my business.

 

Hope everything okay at your side.

[kinwei]

Compare a new plug N a 40K used plug...The so-call Centre electrode , Centre Insert , the Core or the Tip pin.. u will know the answer... bike alway travel at high speed N long distance is advice to change offen....

 

Yup, nothing beats a new part, anytime.

[kinwei]

arbine;7406811']on my gen 1, i had used Denso IU27, NGK CR9EIX & NGK CR9EIA

changed them at 10 000km, 12 000km & 18 000km respectively.

only difference i find is that the NGK CR9EIA yield better FC and easily to cold-start.

 

CR9EIA supposed to be a better plug than CR9EIX. After much googling last nite.

[carbine]

CR9EIA supposed to be a better plug than CR9EIX. After much googling last nite.

 

agree, more durable ground electrode or something i read about it before. therefore abit more expensive price

[wayliang]

arbine;7406983']agree' date=' more durable ground electrode or something i read about it before. therefore abit more expensive price[/quote']

 

sorry for noob question. shouldn't denso be better? or are we talking about different grades of plugs? so am i right to say there are better denso plugs on par with CR9EIA? or no?

[carbine]

sorry for noob question. shouldn't denso be better? or are we talking about different grades of plugs? so am i right to say there are better denso plugs on par with CR9EIA? or no?

 

personnal preference i suppose...

NGK will say that they are better, denso will say that they are better, who to believe?

but 1 point to note, denso iridium centre electrode is slightly smaller then a ngk ididium...

[wayliang]

arbine;7407230']personnal preference i suppose...

NGK will say that they are better, denso will say that they are better, who to believe?

but 1 point to note, denso iridium centre electrode is slightly smaller then a ngk ididium...

 

eh yar.. just checked. NGK one is 0.6mm as compared to denso's 0.4mm.

as quoted from http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/pages/technical/iridium_spark_plugs.htm

are we talking about the same thing? if not pls correct me. haha.

[carbine]

eh yar.. just checked. NGK one is 0.6mm as compared to denso's 0.4mm.

as quoted from http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/pages/technical/iridium_spark_plugs.htm

are we talking about the same thing? if not pls correct me. haha.

 

yes... imo the more important is the gapping, 0.7mm-0.8mm according to the gen1 manual, gen2 should be the same, maybe anyone can clarify?

[keratsini]

For GenII Spark plug gap 0.8-0.9mm (0.031-0.035 in).

Suzuki GSX1300R Workshop Maintenance/Manual Book.

Chapter/Page = Maintenence and Lubrication / 0B-9

 

Spark Plug Tightening torque: 11N-m (1.1 kgf-m, 8.0 lb-ft)

[Nok97]

arbine;7407416']yes... imo the more important is the gapping' date=' 0.7mm-0.8mm according to the gen1 manual, gen2 should be the same, maybe anyone can clarify?[/quote']

 

The Most impt is the Gapping... some say tighter the better...

Xmas count down????

[Nok97]

CR9EIA supposed to be a better plug than CR9EIX. After much googling last nite.

ZX10R is using CR9EIA as Stock OEM plug ...

 

Yup, nothing beats a new part, anytime.

New part is a insu for long trip riding... been with some riders that nv change plugs for the pass 30K.. claiming that no prob.. No prob... But end up... prob many many..............

 

Just to share...

[Nok97]

Yes I do. Hope to see you there.

 

Great...! see ya!

[Stardust83]

Any falcon riders going for the Charity bike wash coming saturday ?

[kinwei]

eh yar.. just checked. NGK one is 0.6mm as compared to denso's 0.4mm.

as quoted from http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/pages/technical/iridium_spark_plugs.htm

are we talking about the same thing? if not pls correct me. haha.

 

The 0.6mm or 0.4mm that you sees are the diameter of the centre electrode tip. The smaller the better (as per claimed by the manufacturer), however at the expense of lower life span. There are normal iridium plug that is more than 0.6mm. Those can easily clocked more than 100k km. 0.6mm around 60k km. While 0.4mm think around 20k to 30k km.

 

Hence Denso are selling performance iridium with 0.4mm tip while NGK is selling performance iridium with 0.6mm tip. Theroitically NGK last longer however performace and cold start might lose to Denso. But I think you might not feel the difference if you are using a stock to minor mod engine. And most importantly, NGK is always cheaper than Denso by a few $ per plug. A more worthy investment.

[kinwei]

ZX10R is using CR9EIA as Stock OEM plug ...

 

 

New part is a insu for long trip riding... been with some riders that nv change plugs for the pass 30K.. claiming that no prob.. No prob... But end up... prob many many..............

 

Just to share...

 

Your point is definately valid. I will definately do the change if I'm going for a long trip to save any potential hassle. Come to think of it, I haven't change my stock chain/sprocket and brake pad too.. argh.. I hate maintenance....

[carbine]

The Most impt is the Gapping... some say tighter the better...

Xmas count down????

 

where?? the buffet??

[wayliang]

For GenII Spark plug gap 0.8-0.9mm (0.031-0.035 in).

Suzuki GSX1300R Workshop Maintenance/Manual Book.

Chapter/Page = Maintenence and Lubrication / 0B-9

 

Spark Plug Tightening torque: 11N-m (1.1 kgf-m, 8.0 lb-ft)

read about this last time on the net too. and one of my encik told me this before. but. i dont see any of the sg mech doing it. you guys know which bikeshop actually follows the torque value?

 

The 0.6mm or 0.4mm that you sees are the diameter of the centre electrode tip. The smaller the better (as per claimed by the manufacturer), however at the expense of lower life span. There are normal iridium plug that is more than 0.6mm. Those can easily clocked more than 100k km. 0.6mm around 60k km. While 0.4mm think around 20k to 30k km.

 

Hence Denso are selling performance iridium with 0.4mm tip while NGK is selling performance iridium with 0.6mm tip. Theroitically NGK last longer however performace and cold start might lose to Denso. But I think you might not feel the difference if you are using a stock to minor mod engine. And most importantly, NGK is always cheaper than Denso by a few $ per plug. A more worthy investment.

 

hmm. i tried both ngk and denso iridium. cant really feel the difference. never tried the normal plugs though. heard that iridium and normal ones are quite huge in difference.

[kinwei]

read about this last time on the net too. and one of my encik told me this before. but. i dont see any of the sg mech doing it. you guys know which bikeshop actually follows the torque value?

 

Bike shop mechanic mainly use "feeling" to work. Good torque wrench ain't cheap and need to calibrate yearly. And based on how the mechanic handle the tools, it will spoilt fast. Usually I only see them use it on engine work but not all.

 

 

hmm. i tried both ngk and denso iridium. cant really feel the difference. never tried the normal plugs though. heard that iridium and normal ones are quite huge in difference.

 

Some say the ignition is better due to better spark quality. You might feel easier to start the bike. While those heavily mod bike will benefit more from it. To me, I just want the long life span of a iridium. I service my bike myself, so by using iridium, I can reduce the frequency of changing the plug. Good for a lazy bum like me.

[nicky69hayden]

Bike shop mechanic mainly use "feeling" to work. Good torque wrench ain't cheap and need to calibrate yearly. And based on how the mechanic handle the tools, it will spoilt fast. Usually I only see them use it on engine work but not all.

 

Some say the ignition is better due to better spark quality. You might feel easier to start the bike. While those heavily mod bike will benefit more from it. To me, I just want the long life span of a iridium. I service my bike myself, so by using iridium, I can reduce the frequency of changing the plug. Good for a lazy bum like me.

 

I always change the plugs myself as I could use the torque wrench at my werk place

Lifespan of plugs, should not just depends on the suzuki manual, should also check the plug manufacturer recommedation to change.

Also how good a plug also depends on what you put in to your ignition chamber :-

air filter - how good or clean the air you are feeding

petrol - clean or dirty petrol or even worse got water in petrol tank

air-fuel mixture - too much petrol not good / too much air not good also

 

so its not just the plug, but you have to consider the whole system as well.

Sometimes a new plug might not be good, cos who knows it might have a manufacture fault.

[kinwei]

I always change the plugs myself as I could use the torque wrench at my werk place

Lifespan of plugs, should not just depends on the suzuki manual, should also check the plug manufacturer recommedation to change.

Also how good a plug also depends on what you put in to your ignition chamber :-

air filter - how good or clean the air you are feeding

petrol - clean or dirty petrol or even worse got water in petrol tank

air-fuel mixture - too much petrol not good / too much air not good also

 

so its not just the plug, but you have to consider the whole system as well.

Sometimes a new plug might not be good, cos who knows it might have a manufacture fault.

 

Cool, you have access to a torque wrench. I'm looking for one but being unrealistic, I'm looking for one that can cater for the wide range of torques for all the nuts on the bike. Hahaha, it impossible. So till now still haven't bought one.

[wayliang]

Bike shop mechanic mainly use "feeling" to work. Good torque wrench ain't cheap and need to calibrate yearly. And based on how the mechanic handle the tools, it will spoilt fast. Usually I only see them use it on engine work but not all.

 

 

 

 

Some say the ignition is better due to better spark quality. You might feel easier to start the bike. While those heavily mod bike will benefit more from it. To me, I just want the long life span of a iridium. I service my bike myself, so by using iridium, I can reduce the frequency of changing the plug. Good for a lazy bum like me.

 

Cool, you have access to a torque wrench. I'm looking for one but being unrealistic, I'm looking for one that can cater for the wide range of torques for all the nuts on the bike. Hahaha, it impossible. So till now still haven't bought one.

 

wats the range of torque values you need? i have a catalog of snap-on tools. actually i dont mind buying one. cos i can calibrate it at my workplace anytime. haha.

[kinwei]

wats the range of torque values you need? i have a catalog of snap-on tools. actually i dont mind buying one. cos i can calibrate it at my workplace anytime. haha.

 

Bro, Snap-on are the LV and Prada of tools. Too expensive for a poor man like me, lol... I forgot the range but I did check around a few hardware shop plus online and found that I have to buy a few diff torque wrench for difference range. Make sense though. It like trying to findi a 1/4" socket wrench set with 30+mm socket in it. Currently just stick to "feel" first.

[Nok97]

arbine;7408176']where?? the buffet??

 

Drink N drunk... will sms u once place cfm...

[Nok97]

is just personal view... Cheers! Chain under good care can lasts up to 40K or more...

[wayliang]

Bro, Snap-on are the LV and Prada of tools. Too expensive for a poor man like me, lol... I forgot the range but I did check around a few hardware shop plus online and found that I have to buy a few diff torque wrench for difference range. Make sense though. It like trying to findi a 1/4" socket wrench set with 30+mm socket in it. Currently just stick to "feel" first.

 

really mea? but in my inventory, it states that its like $100-$200+ depending on range of torque wrench. plus snap-on are really good. its not easily out of cal. just dont drop it or wat. and must take care lar. haha. if i'm not wrong. i have seen one thats 0- 24 inlb one. 5-35inlb. 30-200inlb. and so on.

wha. so many sockets? you sure need so much? from 1/4" start all the way to 1" socket?