Difference Between the Various Cubs Models

[undeadsaint]

i've been riding sparkrr for 2 years then upgrade to super 4 now. kinda miss my 'uncle style' riding. Ride, stop and throw one corner at the side of the road. No one will give a damn and not scare of ppl touching or stealing ur bike at all. and i miss the fuel comsumption ALOT.

 

imagine i used to hit 42-44/litre with my spark (always riding at 90-110 on highway) and now onli 20/litres with my superfour. ITS 2 TIMES THE COMSUMPTION !!!! =(

so i've decided to go back to my kup kia life once i fully pay finish my installment

 

 

i'm actually looking at x1r and wave. aint gona take spark again, coz i already try it before. wave R or wave S doesnt reali matter to me. i know about the brakes differences. in terms of power, x1r better? comsumption the same? what's x1r top speed btw.

 

any comment abt these 2 bike?

 

btw is wave R older or wave S? LOL.

[ahdon]

Hello riders,

 

thinking of getting a Kup. But with so many different models, I'm really confuse. What are the differences between them? And there are the clutchless ones? Is it more convenient to go clutchless?

 

Your help is appreciated. Thanks!

if there's already a previous discussion on this, can someone please point me there? Thanks!

[ahdon]

anyone to give advise here? =)

[Fried Rice]

What model you referring to?

[ahdon]

Hoping to know more about Spark, x1-r, wave and raider.

Also which are the ones with rear disc brakes? which ones are clutchless (what's the trade-off of going clutchless?)

 

Thanks!!

[xiaoyuer1988]

x1r comes wif front n rear disc brake

[fx]

all modern cubs look the same to me

are the new honda cubs still being produced?

i enjoyed reading this though, light yet informative:

 

The-History-amp-Development-of-Cubs

 

History

 

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These popular "red engines with white tanks" for bicycles were successfully marketed by developing a nationwide network of bicycle dealers and shipping the engines in cardboard boxes.

 

Specification

- Engine : Air-Cooled 2-st. Single

- Displacement : 50cc

- Max Power : 1PS / 3,600rpm

- Max Speed : 35km/h

- Dry Weight : 6kg

- Other : Pedal-Type Starter, Chain Final Drive

 

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Featuring an inverted engine, its simple method uses rubber rollers to rotate the bicycle's rim. Sold through Bridgestone's tire and bicycle dealer networks, 300,000 were produced between 1952 and 1958.

 

Specification

- Engine : Forced Air-Cooled 2-st. Single Reversed Deflector-System

- Displacement : 38.5cc

- Max Power : 0.85PS / 4,000rpm

- Max Speed : 40km/h

- Dry Weight : 6kg

 

The Early Days

The earliest mopeds, introduced in the early 1950s, were nothing but bicycles with a helper motor in various locations, for example on top of the front wheel. These were commonly called cyclemotors. An example of this type is the VéloSoleX brand, which simply had a rubber roller driving the front tire. A more innovative design was known in the UK as the Cyclemaster. This had a complete powered rear wheel which was simply substituted for the bicycle rear wheel, which originated from a design by two DKW engineers in Germany. Slightly larger machines, commonly with a 98 cc engine were known as autocycles. However, some mopeds, such as the Czech-made Jawa, were derived from motorcycles.

 

A further category of low-powered two-wheelers exists today in some jurisdictions for bicycles with helper motors—these are often defined as power-assisted bicycles or motorized bicycles. Some jurisdictions, however, may categorize these as a type of moped, creating a certain amount of confusion.

 

Some mopeds have been designed with more than two wheels, similar to a microcar, or the three wheeled (two front, one back) transport moped.

 

Etymology

The word moped was coined by a Swedish journalist in 1952, as an abbreviation of motor and pedal

 

Southeast Asia

In Southeast Asian countries, mopeds are classified as small motorcycles similar to Honda Supercub, sometimes called underbones, they are also known as kapchai in Malaysia. A kapchai moped is usually powered by small 2-stroke or 4-stroke engines ranging from 50 cc to 125 cc, but recently the displacement range was increased with the introduction of the largest displacement kapchai model, Yamaha Y135LC.

 

In Malaysia, kapchai bikes may apply the same highway speed limits as cars and larger motorcycles since modern kapchai models are capable to reach the top speeds of about 120 ~ 130 km/h, therefore all kapchai bikes are al

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/124371-The-History-amp-Development-of-Cubs

 

World's biggest seller

 

It can be justly argued that the Honda Super Cub is the most important machine in the whole history of motorcycling. Certainly in terms of sheer volume the Super Cub series of scooters has outsold every other powered transport vehicle ever made. As a sturdy machine for daily, often arduous use it has had no equal. Many manufacturers dreamed of creating a two-wheeler with genuine mass appeal, but Honda was the first to make it reality with the C100.

 

Clever engineering produced a machine that even those intimidated by normal motorcycles felt happy to approach. Hidden under the moulded front weather shield and yet efficiently cooled by air, the engine provided enough power for carrying both its rider and various loads ranging from luggage to live farm animals. Large diameter wheels and ample seating offered comfort comparable with larger touring motorcycles. Also, the automatic clutch meant that riding the Cub could be quickly mastered by people who had never controlled a powered vehicle before. And the 'step-thru' format created a fun two-wheeler easily ridden by people of all ages and both sexes. A brilliantly successful advertising campaign throughout the American media promoted the Cub and improved the image of motorcyclists with the now legendary slogan: "You meet the nicest people on a Honda."

 

The first-generation Super Cub, developed under the direction of company founder Soichiro Honda, was designed to be a new type of versatile scooter that anyone could ride with ease. At a time when 2-stroke engines were the norm, the Super Cub was fitted with a revolutionary, high-performance 50cc 4-stroke engine that offered superb economy and durability. The creative design also featured a low-floor backbone frame for easy mounting and dismounting, large plastic leg shields to protect riders' legs from dirt and wind, and other innovations.

 

Since then the Super Cub has undergone many improvements, resulting in remarkable increases in both driving performance and fuel economy, but the basic design and concepts remain unchanged. Its original styling has made it the scooter of choice for business use-in fact, the name "Cub" has become synonymous with working scooters.

 

The Super Cub was first Honda motorcycle exported and sold in the U.S., eventually becoming the world's best-selling vehicle. As proof the original concept and design was perfect is the fact that today's C50, C70 and C90s have only detail changes to set them apart from the machines of 25 years ago. It has since then been popular with customers in more than 160 countries worldwide. Currently manufactured in fourteen countries centered in the expanding motorcycle market of South-East Asia, the Super Cub is a practical scooter that enjoys a strong reputation around the world.

 

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Cubs Development Throughout The Years

 

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First Version of the Honda Super Cub, 1958 Model.

 

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From 1980-1984, HONDA C70 Passport, the elder brother of Honda Cub C50, with more power, same cheap economical ride and reliability was produced.

 

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In 1980, the Yamaha 80 moped model was introduced into the market in 1980 with a classy caption:-” YAMAHA 80 , ADA KELAS “ Designed for easy mobility, the high performance 79cc 2-stroke engine of the Yamaha 80 boasts of low fuel consumption & reliability with a CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) to boost combustion efficiency & engine performance.

 

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In the 1980s, a larger 100 cc GN-5 engine model was introduced especially for Asian markets. The newer 100 cc model was a major upgrade of the previous Honda Cub models, with new features such as a telescopic front suspension to replace the older leading link suspension, and a more efficient 4-speed transmission to replace the older 3-speed transmission used in older Honda Cubs. The 100 cc model was known as Honda Dream in Thailand and Honda EX5 in Malaysia

 

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In 1988, HONDA Super Cub 100EX, the first Thai-made motorcycle exported to Japan.

 

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1991 - Suzuki FB 80 (80cc)

 

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1991 - Suzuki FB 100 (100cc)

 

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1991 - Suzuki RC 100 (100cc)

 

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In 1992, HONDA Motorcycles had built 20 million of these machines.

 

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In 1997, Honda Little Cub C50 was the 10 millionth Honda to roll off the assembly line. Sporting the new Super Cub look and equipped with 14-inch wheels and a low seat height, it is easy to ride.

 

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In 2004, the production of Honda Cubs in Asia and Africa still continues even though newer Honda Wave models have been introduced. Not only are they continuing, but sales for Super Cubs have increased in Japan with new upgrades on the engine, making it even more powerful, more economical and cleaner than ever before. With all due respect to the newer, plastic body designs, the original Cub model is as popular and as stylish as ever.

 

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Note : The informations within are sourced through the web and are non exhausive. This thread is purely to provide our members with a brief idea how some term comes about and the appreciation of past vintage make and model that contributed to the present ride the Cubs Community sees today.

[brownie]

Hi..

 

I need some advise pls..

 

Currently im riding on fino.. thought of change it to Spark/X1R or Vespa LX150.. issit worth it for me to change bike? Maybe nxt yr?

[ziyang123]

Hoping to know more about Spark, x1-r, wave and raider.

Also which are the ones with rear disc brakes? which ones are clutchless (what's the trade-off of going clutchless?)

 

Thanks!!

 

I ride a wave, rear brake is drum...

 

Clutchless

 

Pros

No stall when brake fully apply in gear 1,2,3,4

Gear is N-1-2-3-4-N

Change Gear step down

 

Cons

After stopping, sometime gear a bit like jam

[feriosi]

Hoping to know more about Spark, x1-r, wave and raider.

Also which are the ones with rear disc brakes? which ones are clutchless (what's the trade-off of going clutchless?)

 

Thanks!!

 

I rode the Raider for quite awhile. 150cc, DOHC, digital speedo, front & rear disc brake. It's one of the most powerful cub in town.

[shahrul_azmil3]

Wah. Raider quite good ar.

Maybe next year shall get one as a main bike.

 

Sent from my GT-P1000

[ahdon]

Thinking of a raider too. but raider like very hard to find now. Alternatively is Spark135 or x1r. comments?

[RedRangeR]

Thinking of a raider too. but raider like very hard to find now. Alternatively is Spark135 or x1r. comments?

 

Spark n x1r is like x1 n spark z :s.

Internally same. Just the externals like rear disc brake, gear ratio, coversets, handlebars. some sparks have no clutch. A plus point for spark is the endless mods n accs for u to doll up ur baby.

 

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[laolan32]

Hi Bros and Sis,

 

Just wonder anybody can share with me, which cubs is better? Compare to mine as I just bought my suzuki raider 150 cub, as i start riding only this week only, i found is quite better in sense of easy to use, fuel economy, and also for my transport use.. I always top up $5.00 to $6.00 full tank and runs 80km/h, is it well consumption for my fuel tank? Also compare to other cubs, is it the same as mine? Sorry its 55km/L

 

Thanks & regards,

Kelvin Tan..

 

Have anice holiday..

Edited November 7, 2011 by laolan32

[Fried Rice]

my spark can do close to 47km/l for fc. average riding speed is 85km//h.

[kb27]

Hi, I currently have a van but sometimes it breaks down and I need a backup transport.

I'm looking at a cub. It should be cheap to buy (I'm looking at used ones), cheap to maintain and have good fuel consumption.

Carrying case would be important as well, bcoz I need to carry some hand tools and car battery around.

 

I've read around and it seems Wave and Spark is quite popular. I'm sure they are other models I missed.

 

I'm open to any suggestions to what would be most suitable for my needs.

 

Thanks.

[Fried Rice]

consider yamaha spark/x1r/wave. they are pretty much the same..

[a22a2in]

for simple transport...honda wave or sym magic...