Questions about filtering / Lane Splitting

[DeusExMachina]

At any junction or stop line, stop in the lane splitting position.

Just remember never to stop IN LANE in between 2 cars (front and back).

 

Why?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2BccVeAurI&feature=player_embedded

[xavw]

Heading inbetween vehicles at juctions is not guranteed risk-free. The risk level of going in between vehicles would be more influenced by rider's skill and experience. May result in knocking into other vehicles at low speed, and usually damage to a car, etc. I'm still iffy about it, because knocking into a car, can mean hefty financial penalties for a P-plate rider. Chances are the rider will be found to be at fault. Worse still if its some luxury car, with a nasty owner.

 

I don't know too much about being rear ended, as it's not a common practice in Singapore to wait behind vehicles. But if I recall correctly, in the Hurt Report, rear-end collisions are rare. And that's in a country where lane splitting is illegal in some states.

Edited February 15, 2011 by xavw

[DeusExMachina]

Heading inbetween vehicles at juctions is not guranteed risk-free. The risk level of going in between vehicles would be more influenced by rider's skill and experience. May result in knocking into other vehicles at low speed, and usually damage to a car, etc. I'm still iffy about it, because knocking into a car, can mean hefty financial penalties for a P-plate rider. Chances are the rider will be found to be at fault. Worse still if its some luxury car, with a nasty owner.

 

I don't know too much about being rear ended, as it's not a common practice in Singapore to wait behind vehicles. But if I recall correctly, in the Hurt Report, rear-end collisions are rare. And that's in a country where lane splitting is illegal in some states.

 

 

Better than being the meat in a car sandwich.

[bernardk]

I don't know too much about being rear ended, as it's not a common practice in Singapore to wait behind vehicles. But if I recall correctly, in the Hurt Report, rear-end collisions are rare. And that's in a country where lane splitting is illegal in some states.

 

Well whatever it is... SIAM all you can. ride longer and you have that kind of instinct that will help you along the way.

[Spark_135]

At any junction or stop line, stop in the lane splitting position.

Just remember never to stop IN LANE in between 2 cars (front and back).

 

Why?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2BccVeAurI&feature=player_embedded

 

You can see the car did not slow down alot in the side mirror before rear ending him, seems like driver not paying atttention. Anyway rider looked like he was wearing full proper gear, long sleeve jacket, jeans, shoes and gloves. Safety first too.

[vyruz]

Better than being the meat in a car sandwich.

 

If we're arguing worst-case-scenarios, then arguably it is worse to filter to the front, take off as soon as the green light comes on, and get T-boned by some jacka$$ doing warp speed trying to beat the red light (no 'crumple zone' as such in a side collision). In that case it may be better to wait behind a car or two acting as a buffer.

[bernardk]

If we're arguing worst-case-scenarios, then arguably it is worse to filter to the front, take off as soon as the green light comes on, and get T-boned by some jacka$$ doing warp speed trying to beat the red light (no 'crumple zone' as such in a side collision). In that case it may be better to wait behind a car or two acting as a buffer.

 

Bro of cos before proceed must make sure the cars stop before proceeding dun ever give chance for risk. Even crossing as a pedestrian also i always remind my friends and family members. even if its green doesnt mean its safe.

[DeusExMachina]

If we're arguing worst-case-scenarios, then arguably it is worse to filter to the front, take off as soon as the green light comes on, and get T-boned by some jacka$$ doing warp speed trying to beat the red light (no 'crumple zone' as such in a side collision). In that case it may be better to wait behind a car or two acting as a buffer.

 

Checking left/right before moving off... or even before your light turns green..... helps to prevent that.

[vyruz]

Checking left/right before moving off... or even before your light turns green..... helps to prevent that.

 

Agreed. I'm also trying to get into the habit of checking my rearview mirrors when coming to an abrupt stop (traffic light change) or when stopped in general.

[CSV]

any tips for newbies on how to lanesplit in traffic jam, not just red lights.

 

but PIE highway jam that kind. no confidence right now leh, i only dare to lanesplit when there is big opening in between.

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

If not confident I like to follow slow bikes and non-aggressive cars. "Road train" tactics makes commuting safer, provided you don't follow hell-drivers or those that like to jam brakes.

 

I think you know the rest by now, what sort of drivers/riders are predictable and who are the ones to stay clear of.

 

Try not to clog up Lane 1.5 if slow at lanesplitting. Tailgating bikes are IMO, more dangerous than taxis. Some taxis seem to like cruiser bikes

[superstylefactor]

when lane splitting always keep an eye out for changing traffic lights as well, look far and anticipate well in advance when the cars are going to start moving off. Usually i will follow the nearest car moving off and signal into it lane, keeping an eye out for the car behind as well in case the driver decided to do a F1 start

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

From traffic light starts and I have lanesplitted to the front I discipline myself when other bikes start inching forward before the lights are green.

 

That's because if you start inching forward, the Speed Racer mentality will kick in creating a dangerous situation where bikes and cars are squeezed right up to the yellow box preventing any attempt at safe and positive acceleration due to the close proximity.

 

What I like to do is look at the car(s) beside like silently asking if they want to go ahead and race off first. Then you might notice, they will wait for the bike to accelerate off first when the lights go green. If the car is in a hurry he won't bother and will proceed to squeeze ahead, anyway, I just let him because once the car is ahead and is dashing off, he's no longer a safety threat. Always avoid side to side proximity.

[Wormwood]

Usually if I make to the front of a queue of cars I'll position myself directly in front of the first car in one of the lanes, rather than remain in between two cars. That way there's no way that driver can try to dash ahead of me and he'll have no choice but to wait for me to move off safely.