Does dunno how to cycle a disadventage at learning how to ride mororbike?

[layers]

hi hi

 

newbie here

 

planning to take bike lesson but dunno how to cycle

 

is that a disadvantage or is easier to learn than bicycle??

[ganman]

hi hi

 

newbie here

 

planning to take bike lesson but dunno how to cycle

 

is that a disadvantage or is easier to learn than bicycle??

 

Suggest you learn how to ride a bicycle first.....

[layers]

Suggest you learn how to ride a bicycle first.....

 

can give tip on better way to learn to cycle?

[raven_bard]

As a newbie learner myself, I would suggest you learn to ride a bicycle first. It'll help you learn to balance the bicycle and get a feel of maneuvering the handlebars. A word of warning though: a motorbike is a totally different animal. Not just because it's powered by an engine; the weight, the power and even learning how to ride and handle a motorbike is totally different. I learned that the hard way when I went for my first practical lesson; the only concrete thought in my head when I was asked to lift the bike from its main-stand was "omfg it weighs a ton!" and "oh holy hell there are no seat belts" when the instructor told us to accelerate.

[bianchi]

Actually, I think it doesn't really matter cuz I've a friend who has had a Class 2 license for more than 10 years already - and he still can't cycle for nuts. What matters is that you must put your heart to it, and learn to take the falls and knocks well - only then would you improve as a rider. Cheers

[layers]

Actually, I think it doesn't really matter cuz I've a friend who has had a Class 2 license for more than 10 years already - and he still can't cycle for nuts. What matters is that you must put your heart to it, and learn to take the falls and knocks well - only then would you improve as a rider. Cheers

 

i tot since u know bike, cycle shld b easier to pick up?

 

hmm nice, guess i have to put in more effect at the beginning

[layers]

actually can some 1 tell me the avg cost and time require to get class 2B?

[bianchi]

i tot since u know bike, cycle shld b easier to pick up?

 

hmm nice, guess i have to put in more effect at the beginning

 

According to him, he still feels that a bicycle is "too light and unstable, tyres too thin... etc etc."

 

Anyway, I guess the average time for a person to pass 2B varies, but a safe bet would be to say around 3-5 months from the date of your registration?

[CSV]

it will help, but its not necessary.

 

riding a bicycle will teach you how to balance the bike, weight shift when moving off and how to counter steer.

 

beyond that, a motorbike is a class of its own. totally different machine. clutch, gears, revs, maintainence etc.

[layers]

the clutch, how is it diff from the car 1?

 

the car clutch was a pain

[bianchi]

There's no difference with regards to the logic of getting the 'biting point'. Just that for a car, you control the clutch with your left leg but for a bike, you use your left hand instead

[CSV]

yeah, and i found it much easier to control clutch with my hand on a bike.

 

can't drive a manual car really well. but bikes i'm ok.

[Fredd]

if u duno hw to cycle n u went for a practical lesson to learn hw to ride a bike..its reali a waste of money coz 1st u'll be fall alot n probably spend alot of time in e 1st prac coz the instructors would not think u r cut out for it. ever saw a female student(no offense), she took it for her 15th time!!! go calculate hw much she had spent..n dats onli for prac 1..still got 6 more pracs to go(for ssdc). u will need to learn to manoeuvre in the figure 8/crank course/balance on a plank/emergency break and hope u dun fall. if u noe how to cycle, u would be able to balance better and wont fall so easily.

 

if u cant cycle, easiest way is go downhill and it will come naturally. i onli learnt hw to cycle when i was 12..e hard way..went downhill many times..fell a few times and finally mastered it. all u need is juz a bit of effort n determination. you can do it!

[Wormwood]

While you can certainly balance the bike when the throttle is wide open without knowing how to cycle, at low speeds you'll definitely have to learn some bicycle-balancing skills, especially for the narrow plank. It's certainly possible to learn them during your motorbike lessons, but it's going to be harder for you than it would be if you could cycle.

 

Why don't you get someone to teach you how to cycle first? You'll pick up a new skill too.

[layers]

While you can certainly balance the bike when the throttle is wide open without knowing how to cycle, at low speeds you'll definitely have to learn some bicycle-balancing skills, especially for the narrow plank. It's certainly possible to learn them during your motorbike lessons, but it's going to be harder for you than it would be if you could cycle.

 

Why don't you get someone to teach you how to cycle first? You'll pick up a new skill too.

 

yea going to ask friend help

 

but how long to learn to cycle? just learn to balance enuff?

 

i hope to get a class2b by aug, seem kinda pack

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

it will help, but its not necessary.

 

riding a bicycle will teach you how to balance the bike, weight shift when moving off and how to counter steer.

 

beyond that, a motorbike is a class of its own. totally different machine. clutch, gears, revs, maintainence etc.

 

As he says, it's not mandatory to learn how to ride a bicycle before going on a motorbike.

 

But being familiar with 2-wheeled vehicle dynamics can be a benefit during your first practical lessons, as you would already know more or less how moving off on 2 wheels "feels" like.

 

This advantage of instinctively knowing 2-wheeled physics may be all the "edge" you need to learn the motorbike's controls in a shorter time.

 

"Go ride bicycle first" is once again, not a compulsory step, but if you want to fly a Space Shuttle you should learn how to handle an aircraft first right? Although Shuttle takes off on rockets and goes much higher and faster than the plane, the Shuttle uses conventional aircraft physics and controls when it glides down to land. Just very much faster.

 

In just the same way, bicycle to moto is a logical step and is easier to learn than the transition from walking to moto.

 

As for how much bicycle experience you need - one weekend just go to Ubin with some friends, cycle once around the island, more than good enough exercise and 2 wheeled experience

 

My personal experience tells me that having some basic road cycling experience makes the whole class 2B very easy. It saved me a lot of money passing every stage easily. No need to bang tyre, just have fun all the way.

Edited February 25, 2011 by Pandora's Kitten :3

[Wormwood]

yea going to ask friend help

 

but how long to learn to cycle? just learn to balance enuff?

 

i hope to get a class2b by aug, seem kinda pack

I learnt in 2 or 3 short sessions when I was a kid. You should be able to as well. Once you master the skill, you won't have to practise as you'll never lose it.

[swiftee]

learn balancing on bicycle is free (if you are diligent it takes only 2 full days to learn balancing)

learn balancing on motorbike must pay money and it is slightly more difficult cause more things to coordinate. also cannot get 2 full days of mbike training

 

up to you

[dDtim]

can give tip on better way to learn to cycle?

 

Back when I was learning to cycle as a kid- you don't learn until you fall. Works on both of the discussed vehicles. if you know how you fall, you will know better how not to fall

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

My first impression riding a bicycle in my primary school kids is that when turning it's correct to feel like the bike is falling over and the speed will keep it upright. Didn't fall once :3

 

Now, having grown up, there are better ways to teach the fundamentals of 2 wheel vehicle dynamics...

 

Watch Keith Code's superbike school lessons

 

Countersteering, gyro forces, etc, are all instinctive with sound scientific methods of teaching. No falling required

 

I find teaching with training wheels is A Bad Thing as the learner will not grasp countersteering and will find 2 wheels 'unstable' as the steering is suddenly reversed once the training wheels come off. That means fear and fear on 2 wheeled vehicle = fall.

[arthur_chan]

i know how to cycle for years then go for motor.

 

cycling skill doesnt help much, except u're more daring on corning n stable on slow speed. i did fail on some lesson on practice, then use bicycle to practice n still fail. in the end, i try to grasp the technique in my mind n finally manage to get it.

 

if u want ur 2b fast, dont bother learning cycling, cos ur basic cycling skill dont apply, the technique for balancing on motorcycle n bicycle is totally different. basically on motorcycle balancing is like someone pushing u ahead on a bicycle; u can't even fall with momentant n thick tyres, while bicycle balancing u need to swerve left n right.

 

what's more after years on motorcycle, i've lost touch on bicycle. there was once i sit on a bicycle, i couldn't even balance it, go figure.

 

btw, an electric bicycle is the closest thing to a motorcycle for practice, however it doesn't come cheap.

Edited March 11, 2011 by arthur_chan

[quikslvr]

why don't you learn cycling when younger?