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Yes I do find alot of the learners in SSDC are very young. Some are half my age. This is the main reason why I hated pillion riding. Everytime , the young riders will never fail to rev his engine contantly and also speed up within a short distance and jam brake. Sitting behind them is like a roller coaster ride.

They should raise the age limit to above 20 :(

 

Once I was behind a young chap and we rode through the ebrake area. 2 ladies infront fell when they failed to keep clear of the bumpy area meant for 2A/2 . Instead of stopping ( we were like only a few metres behind them) , my rider tried to by pass them and continue to ride through. Super!

 

 

ps - why do we to rev so much ?? I know the engine needs to be warm up .But once u are like 20 mins into the ride do u still need to rev rev rev on every stop line?

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knn, went for my lesson 7 today and failed with 22 points...

 

of 17 ppl taking lesson 7, only 2 ppl passed.... ssdc must be laughing all the way to the bank....

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knn, went for my lesson 7 today and failed with 22 points...

 

of 17 ppl taking lesson 7, only 2 ppl passed.... ssdc must be laughing all the way to the bank....

 

Funny leh, why not you take a step back and think why you not able to pass your L7?

when pointing at someone, remember, 3 fingers are pointing back at yourself.

if they fail you, it very simple, meaning your riding skill are not within their expectation.

if not happy with SSDC, you always have a choice to choose other test center. :nono::nono:

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knn, went for my lesson 7 today and failed with 22 points...

 

of 17 ppl taking lesson 7, only 2 ppl passed.... ssdc must be laughing all the way to the bank....

 

they are laughing but cos they are really glad they didn't pass riders who didn't make the grade.

 

uncle, you back in spore already? when come out for kopi?

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U should not look at ur wheel but feel how much ur handlebar turns.

 

Despic: Answering abt ur question, There should not be any body movements to counter the weight of the bike.

 

For the Pylon Course, a little hard to be detailed here to explain to u how to get thru it. What i can say is that, Don't feel like u have to rush thru the course. Just as the front wheel is inline with the 1st Centre Pylon(cone), start banking, then open throttle slightly, then close throttle before u start banking to the right, then open throttle slightly again, then close throttle, start banking again. It repeats over and over again. If u feel u're too fast, use the rear brake at the same time u close throttle. :thumb:

 

hey corse thanks for your help. I've passed my prac 3, going for my prac 4 today heh

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I don't think SSDC instructors failed people on purpose la. They are professional in what they are doing and are serious too. I was impressed with how much detail they can remember during my Practical 7 lesson and they were able to recite all the mistakes we made.

 

It is better to commit those mistakes during lessons and be spotted by instructors than to made them outside.

Remember practice make perfect. I was able to pass practical 7 first time because I did so many CR and I always ensure I did all the checks until my neck hurted..

 

 

 

knn, went for my lesson 7 today and failed with 22 points...

 

of 17 ppl taking lesson 7, only 2 ppl passed.... ssdc must be laughing all the way to the bank....

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ps - why do we to rev so much ?? I know the engine needs to be warm up .But once u are like 20 mins into the ride do u still need to rev rev rev on every stop line?

 

Maybe their bike has some tuning problem? Idling is to low, so they rev it abit to prevent the bike from stalling?

 

knn, went for my lesson 7 today and failed with 22 points...

 

of 17 ppl taking lesson 7, only 2 ppl passed.... ssdc must be laughing all the way to the bank....

 

Thats not a very nice thing to say. We instructors do not laugh abt it, and we dont get happy becuz we fail our students. I can easily make anyone happy by passing the lesson 7. But does the passing student learn anything? No!. We access according to the Traffic Police Standard. If already 2 or 4 instructors can fail a student for lesson 7, Imagine what 10 Testers can do?

All for each tester has to do is just give 2 points each. And the student fails.

 

Please understand that we want our students to have the best/correct riding skill/technique before they go for their test. We have to ensure this by Lesson 7.

 

We hope that our students can pass their TP test on their 1st attempt.

What will make us happy is to see the passing percentage rate above our expecting target for every TP test.

 

I don't think SSDC instructors failed people on purpose la. They are professional in what they are doing and are serious too. I was impressed with how much detail they can remember during my Practical 7 lesson and they were able to recite all the mistakes we made.

 

It is better to commit those mistakes during lessons and be spotted by instructors than to made them outside.

Remember practice make perfect. I was able to pass practical 7 first time because I did so many CR and I always ensure I did all the checks until my neck hurted..

 

Thank you for comment.

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quick question: road revision (RR) , how many times practice on the road? still got time to do CR?

 

We try our best to complete 4 rounds of ur test route.

IF... there is extra time after 4 rounds, we will allow u to practice in the circuit.

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I rather find out my mistakes during lesson then gotten failed during TP... I usually ask the instructors directly if i did something wrong and corrected it on the spot. We are there to learn not blaming others.

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Yes I do find alot of the learners in SSDC are very young. Some are half my age. This is the main reason why I hated pillion riding. Everytime , the young riders will never fail to rev his engine contantly and also speed up within a short distance and jam brake. Sitting behind them is like a roller coaster ride.

They should raise the age limit to above 20 :(

 

Once I was behind a young chap and we rode through the ebrake area. 2 ladies infront fell when they failed to keep clear of the bumpy area meant for 2A/2 . Instead of stopping ( we were like only a few metres behind them) , my rider tried to by pass them and continue to ride through. Super!

 

 

ps - why do we to rev so much ?? I know the engine needs to be warm up .But once u are like 20 mins into the ride do u still need to rev rev rev on every stop line?

 

haha... maybe they wan act act fierce fierce..

 

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Hope to see my fav instructors there

 

Opps... I'm off today....

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Opps... I'm off today....

 

scandal? *sniff sniff*

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anyway thanks for ur help =D

haha, welcome, btw i just changed my EO and brake pads liao:angel:

But once u are like 20 mins into the ride do u still need to rev rev rev on every stop line?

haizzz, cos they dun know mah, macham petrol free, must rev till shiok then can go home:faint:

must treat ssdc bikes as ur own bike, then TP time they will serve u well:angel:

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they are laughing but cos they are really glad they didn't pass riders who didn't make the grade.

 

uncle, you back in spore already? when come out for kopi?

 

still in china see china mei mei :cheeky:. will be back on the 2nd week of july. but might go back to china again few days later after my return. :faint:

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Thats not a very nice thing to say. We instructors do not laugh abt it, and we dont get happy becuz we fail our students. I can easily make anyone happy by passing the lesson 7. But does the passing student learn anything? No!. We access according to the Traffic Police Standard. If already 2 or 4 instructors can fail a student for lesson 7, Imagine what 10 Testers can do?

All for each tester has to do is just give 2 points each. And the student fails.

 

Please understand that we want our students to have the best/correct riding skill/technique before they go for their test. We have to ensure this by Lesson 7.

 

We hope that our students can pass their TP test on their 1st attempt.

What will make us happy is to see the passing percentage rate above our expecting target for every TP test.

 

 

 

make sense, but personally, i get frustrated with myself when i dont pass the lesson 1 try, because i really want to get my license.... which person doesnt want to pass lessons in 1 try??

 

but i was thinking, shouldnt road revision lessons be made available to students prior to lesson 7. like after students complete 6.2?? that way they can practice proper riding technique on the road before their assessment, so they wont make the same mistakes and have more confidence when they take their lesson 7??

Cheap + fast = no good

Cheap + good = not fast

Good + fast = not cheap

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make sense, but personally, i get frustrated with myself when i dont pass the lesson 1 try, because i really want to get my license.... which person doesnt want to pass lessons in 1 try??

 

but i was thinking, shouldnt road revision lessons be made available to students prior to lesson 7. like after students complete 6.2?? that way they can practice proper riding technique on the road before their assessment, so they wont make the same mistakes and have more confidence when they take their lesson 7??

 

 

but tp one time pass good no need wait another month for tp.

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hi need some help i'm still confused about the check-back thing. is it that check-back direction is against the nearest kerb? ie if near to a kerb on the left, we check back right, if nearer to a kerb on the right we check back left?

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The answer is yes. If kerb is on your left then check back right; if kerb is on your right then check back left.

 

However, for the TP test, I find that it's easiest to just memorise where to check which side. You should have the circuit map with your test route drawn up. Just use it and make notes. You can ask your instructors after the lessons.

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hi need some help i'm still confused about the check-back thing. is it that check-back direction is against the nearest kerb? ie if near to a kerb on the left, we check back right, if nearer to a kerb on the right we check back left?

 

With a few more practice, you'll get the hang of it.

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The answer is yes. If kerb is on your left then check back right; if kerb is on your right then check back left.

 

However, for the TP test, I find that it's easiest to just memorise where to check which side. You should have the circuit map with your test route drawn up. Just use it and make notes. You can ask your instructors after the lessons.

 

yup for the circuit i already know because i have been reading the past threads.

 

how about those with two lanes each side (two way traffic) with no kerb in the middle. If on the left lane i check right, if i'm on the outer lane do i check left or right. eg the junction before turning left to figure 8, assuming i'm on the outer lane going straight or turn right instead.

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make sense, but personally, i get frustrated with myself when i dont pass the lesson 1 try, because i really want to get my license.... which person doesnt want to pass lessons in 1 try??

 

but i was thinking, shouldnt road revision lessons be made available to students prior to lesson 7. like after students complete 6.2?? that way they can practice proper riding technique on the road before their assessment, so they wont make the same mistakes and have more confidence when they take their lesson 7??

 

Yes, Everyone one wants to get their license. But i've met too many people, all sorts of people, and i've seen that the mindset of 'getting the license asap' has affected them to just wanting to pass only, and not wanting to know the correct and safe way of riding.

 

Hmm... I did thought of that before. A RR before lesson 7 can be a good thing.

Then i suddenly thought of some problems that can happen.

If RR is made available, that means its a choice for RR before L7. Students can choose not to have RR b4 L7. I've seen so many students who dont come for CR before their L5 and keeps failing. If a students has a few RR, then passes the L7, i feel that they may not turn of for RR b4 their TP test.

 

We use our L6.2 to ensure the minimum requirement for L7.

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yup for the circuit i already know because i have been reading the past threads.

 

how about those with two lanes each side (two way traffic) with no kerb in the middle. If on the left lane i check right, if i'm on the outer lane do i check left or right. eg the junction before turning left to figure 8, assuming i'm on the outer lane going straight or turn right instead.

 

Check Right.

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+ Vespa LX150 - 2012

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Posted
Yes, Everyone one wants to get their license. But i've met too many people, all sorts of people, and i've seen that the mindset of 'getting the license asap' has affected them to just wanting to pass only, and not wanting to know the correct and safe way of riding.

 

Hmm... I did thought of that before. A RR before lesson 7 can be a good thing.

Then i suddenly thought of some problems that can happen.

If RR is made available, that means its a choice for RR before L7. Students can choose not to have RR b4 L7. I've seen so many students who dont come for CR before their L5 and keeps failing. If a students has a few RR, then passes the L7, i feel that they may not turn of for RR b4 their TP test.

 

We use our L6.2 to ensure the minimum requirement for L7.

 

i personally feel that a RR before lesson 7 would be good.... between lesson 6.2 and 7, student have very minimal road experience, depending on how many times they took lesson 6.... what helps students pass is the experience and confidence they have to ride safely on the test route, so practice on the road will definitely be beneficial in helping us pass lesson 7...

 

as for people not taking RR after lesson 7, maybe its not in SSDC hands anymore? the students are no longer bound by lesson or assessments, hence its really up to them whether they want to keep practicing for their TP or not... im definitely going to book loads of RR and CR before my TP....

 

thanks for the clarification and your reply on behalf of SSDC...

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Cheap + good = not fast

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