[Discussion] TA 200 Fuel Consumption

[LostRose]

hi all just got my bike a second hand phantom custom (fx plater with 41000km on its odometer). i noticed some of the guys here posting fc of 40km/l thats alot of milage! however, i kept track of mine since my first topup n got 4.7l for 110km travelled. so thats only about 23km/l quite bad eh? any idea what the prob is?

[fleaz]

how you know 4.7L for 110km? you sure accurate or not?

[DragonLee]

it really depend on the way u ride. if u always "blow" your pipe then of cos the comsumption will be higher. or if u add on diff accessiores then the fuel will increase due to the weight too.

[hailang_82]

anyone know the amout of fuel for full tank excluding reserve and how much for the reserve?

[sky_vinz]

hailang_82: Full Tank is 11.2L if I'm not wrong. Reserve is 2.68L, thus exclude reserve is 8.52L. (As stated in Phantom TA200's manual)

[LostRose]

how you know 4.7L for 110km? you sure accurate or not?

 

first i top up until full tank. then i note the odometer reading. after about 100km, top up again until full n read how many litres filled from the fuel pump..

 

hmm mayb i blow quite abit n drag my gear sometimes.. i'll try to adjust my riding style. will keep u guys updated on the outcome

[hailang_82]

Originally posted by sky_vinz@February 04, 2007 11:57 am

hailang_82: Full Tank is 11.2L if I'm not wrong. Reserve is 2.68L, thus exclude reserve is 8.52L. (As stated in Phantom TA200's manual)

8.52l excluding reserves? sure or not? i travel like 360km till reserves... that is like 42km/l? so efficient?

[sky_vinz]

hailang_82: U can always read up ur Phantom TA200 manual anytime or call up Boon Siew to enquire, if u doubt my words.

[hailang_82]

i am the 3rd owner.. I dun have the manual.. still searching for it.. sianz... U know where to get the online version?

[jB]

YEA I WANNA FIND ONE TOO (= sky_vinz KNOW ANY?

[sky_vinz]

Read up e sticky- Phantom Knights Directory. Lots of info in there for both Phantom TA150/200 riders. Links to dl Owner Manual too. Cheers! Once again thks to e many PKs who've contributed one way or another to e sticky.

[fleaz]

Originally posted by LostRose@February 04, 2007 01:30 pm

first i top up until full tank. then i note the odometer reading. after about 100km, top up again until full n read how many litres filled from the fuel pump..

 

hmm mayb i blow quite abit n drag my gear sometimes.. i'll try to adjust my riding style. will keep u guys updated on the outcome

then perhaps it's your riding style

[hailang_82]

Originally posted by sky_vinz@February 04, 2007 04:37 pm

Read up e sticky- Phantom Knights Directory. Lots of info in there for both Phantom TA150/200 riders. Links to dl Owner Manual too. Cheers! Once again thks to e many PKs who've contributed one way or another to e sticky.

haha. thanks. Nv see that thread b4.. dunnoe why... haha

[Davedevil]

actually its more then 11.2L as i have pump 11.5L of petrol before. and regualr servicing and the way of riding will affect the fuel consumption greatly.

[G_S_J]

i don think we need to go into details but in general, the FC for phamton is good. Just make sure one do its regular servicing and maintain the correct riding method.

[jB]

woo I got the guide already..darn detailed..so good good job!

[jB]

speaking of FC, I once sat on my friend's Hayabusa then he told me if that bike doesn't go above a speed limit then its wasting petrol.. forgot was it 60 or 100..hmm why's that so btw?

[redhotchilli]

Originally posted by DragonLee@February 04, 2007 10:59 am

it really depend on the way u ride. if u always "blow" your pipe then of cos the comsumption will be higher. or if u add on diff accessiores then the fuel will increase due to the weight too.

yo bro.... how's ur ride??? long time no see you... any new mob to ur bike??? i like the way ur bike is the last time i saw it....

[sky_vinz]

hailang_82: Enjoy!

 

Davedevil: Bro, did u pump all e way up to e brim? Actually it might cause an overflow.. There's a breather pipe near e cap if I'm not wrong. Seniors pls advise.

 

jB: Yep! Heard a frien saying tat it was 50kmh for most vehicles. Guess it's abt momentum, weight of bike, or sth like tat..

[jB]

yea sky my friend told me he read about it online..and btw I read the manual for our phantom it states we can't over pump yea.. check attached file..hmm i'm not good at this so read up yea?

[KwanYu]

Originally posted by Davedevil@February 05, 2007 09:25 am

actually its more then 11.2L as i have pump 11.5L of petrol before. and regualr servicing and the way of riding will affect the fuel consumption greatly.

My tank barely reached 11.2l even when the tank was empty and i hav to push to a petrol kiosk.

 

jB: not necessary the slower the better. somemore hayabusa had a large engine. it will be under used if ridden too slow. it's about efficiency over range.

[etky85]

actually another way is change a spocket with a lessen 2 teeths than the original.. dunno if anyone tried it before.. going to change my chain and spocket soon.. might wanna it..

[Gallant]

Originally posted by LostRose@February 03, 2007 09:48 pm

hi all just got my bike a second hand phantom custom (fx plater with 41000km on its odometer). i noticed some of the guys here posting fc of 40km/l thats alot of milage! however, i kept track of mine since my first topup n got 4.7l for 110km travelled. so thats only about 23km/l quite bad eh? any idea what the prob is?

Actually quite difficult to obtain the actual FC, but you can try by pumping up

the fuel till it touch the bottom edge of the fuel tank inlet ,record the mileage.

next time when you pump again, do the samething and record the new mileage

minus the previous mileage, divide by the litre of fuel have just pump.

you will get the FC, repeat for several rounds, you will find the FC quite stable.

[byon]

Originally posted by sky_vinz@February 05, 2007 01:44 pm

Davedevil: Bro, did u pump all e way up to e brim? Actually it might cause an overflow.. There's a breather pipe near e cap if I'm not wrong. Seniors pls advise.

 

jB: Yep! Heard a frien saying tat it was 50kmh for most vehicles. Guess it's abt momentum, weight of bike, or sth like tat..

i'm assuming it's the same theory as vehicles model. if we pump till the brim, there's no allowance for the petrol to expand. inturn this will harm the engine, with excessive petrol going to a waste or leaking to various components.

 

 

 

http://www.sgcarmart.com/articles/images/graph_of_fuel.jpg

Avoiding high speeds on open roads results in safer driving and better fuel economy. In highway driving, over 50% of the power produced by the engine is used to overcome aerodynamic drag. Drag and thus fuel consumption increases rapidly at speeds above 90km/h. On the average, a car uses about 15% more fuel at 100km/h, and 25% more fuel at 110km/h compared to when it is doing only 90km/h.

 

However, this should not lead one to conclude that the lower the speed, the better the fuel economy - because it is not. The fuel consumption of an average car increases sharply at speeds below 50km/h.

courtesy of sgcarmart - http://www.sgcarmart.com/articles/save_fuel_1.php

[dinie]

Originally posted by etky85@February 05, 2007 08:20 pm

actually another way is change a spocket with a lessen 2 teeths than the original.. dunno if anyone tried it before.. going to change my chain and spocket soon.. might wanna it..

if u do a lot of city riding, tts gonna increase ur FC instead.. its like pedalling from rest everytime on the smaller cogs of ur mountain bike.. damn difficult.. thus in engine terms its more fuel burnt to get the bike moving..