[Discussion] TA 200 Fuel Consumption

[Hydher]

U sure got urself a good bike that has good FC yah....heh heh. Miss her!

 

what did u do to ur bike the fc so good har?

[dark_angel]

My bike can go ard 37 km/l

as just change spocket n chain.

change EO every month as average km travel for a day is ard 80-100 so need to spare the massive servicing down the road.

change sparkplug every 2 month again to avoid problems dwn the road.

 

think the only pro is the pickup with pillion a bit draggy other than that travel ard 80km/h should be able to hit that rate.

[Hydher]

My bike can go ard 37 km/l

as just change spocket n chain.

change EO every month as average km travel for a day is ard 80-100 so need to spare the massive servicing down the road.

change sparkplug every 2 month again to avoid problems dwn the road.

 

think the only pro is the pickup with pillion a bit draggy other than that travel ard 80km/h should be able to hit that rate.

 

i have this problem too. Heard that the creep is caused by improper cluth freeplay or something. Will try to diy when im free and keep u updated.

[Finrod]

Hello Jtzx, C7C sells only Kia and Mitsubishi cars...where got bike!!!!

Btw Vidak yes 5w40 is a monster of engine oils, last time 1 bottle i got it at 31....mebbe u can get it cheaper elsewhere?. Its one of the premiums oils, used for racing......be prepared for ur TA200 to not have engine brake....experienced it b4.

Hyder, when i rode the TA200, i serviced the bike monthly irregardless of the mileage i hit every month. I only use EO which i have used b4, check ur air filter as its the "lungs" of ur bike. If "lungs" clogged, bike sure cannot run. Chain tension plays a part too coz it 1 way or another dictates the way u ride.

 

Lastly as i've informed jtzx elsewhere, learn to slide into ur gears. Dun rev too hard, dun change ur gears in a "jerky" motion. Tune ur bike engine to be more into the better FC-wise. Thats about all.

[Finrod]

ah cool wifey work there got discounts yea if you get a motor from her ;-)

 

 

felt like trying those ;-) but still testing out all the Eo first =p

how's new vara?

Vara has lower fc at 26km/l......but generally engine is different and also the use too. U wanna try vara?.....so far my vara got no 2nd rider....muahahaha

[Hydher]

Hello Jtzx, C7C sells only Kia and Mitsubishi cars...where got bike!!!!

Btw Vidak yes 5w40 is a monster of engine oils, last time 1 bottle i got it at 31....mebbe u can get it cheaper elsewhere?. Its one of the premiums oils, used for racing......be prepared for ur TA200 to not have engine brake....experienced it b4.

Hyder, when i rode the TA200, i serviced the bike monthly irregardless of the mileage i hit every month. I only use EO which i have used b4, check ur air filter as its the "lungs" of ur bike. If "lungs" clogged, bike sure cannot run. Chain tension plays a part too coz it 1 way or another dictates the way u ride.

 

Lastly as i've informed jtzx elsewhere, learn to slide into ur gears. Dun rev too hard, dun change ur gears in a "jerky" motion. Tune ur bike engine to be more into the better FC-wise. Thats about all.

 

Thanks for the advice. After tuning and new tyres, fc improved.

 

Did a routine check up of my air filter after 10 000 km of travelling. Had the filter to be cleaned by ah chong at 4 000 km.

 

What i saw made me :faint:

 

I saw alot of dust and black duct tape?

 

Also noticed a little worn on the sides. Enough said, Ill be heading to lab this upcoming monday.

[jtzx]

Hello Jtzx, C7C sells only Kia and Mitsubishi cars...where got bike!!!!

Btw Vidak yes 5w40 is a monster of engine oils, last time 1 bottle i got it at 31....mebbe u can get it cheaper elsewhere?. Its one of the premiums oils, used for racing......be prepared for ur TA200 to not have engine brake....experienced it b4.

Hyder, when i rode the TA200, i serviced the bike monthly irregardless of the mileage i hit every month. I only use EO which i have used b4, check ur air filter as its the "lungs" of ur bike. If "lungs" clogged, bike sure cannot run. Chain tension plays a part too coz it 1 way or another dictates the way u ride.

 

Lastly as i've informed jtzx elsewhere, learn to slide into ur gears. Dun rev too hard, dun change ur gears in a "jerky" motion. Tune ur bike engine to be more into the better FC-wise. Thats about all.

 

yupyup.. but there's a hardely showroom nearby =) so using semi or fully EO best suit ta200? service every month? what did u do? as in full service? go shop ask uncle see where need change just change?

 

yup i just blow clean the air filter at planet few weeks ago..

 

i finally learn how to slide into my gears.. nr throw clutch and staff already..

how to tune engine?

[Itrader2010]

Hey Phantom riders,

 

for those Fuel savy people, you might want to take a look at MyGreenOil Thread to improve you fuel comsumption.

 

Cheers!

[Zhi Ming]

Anyone have tried adding 100% pure acetone for phantom to see if the FC got increase? the standard is 2.5ml per Liter of petrol, i thinking of trying when i put full tank next week. Below are some links:

 

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Acetone_Additive:FAQ

http://www.bcmtouring.com/forum/motorcycles-f13/acetone-magic-works-t875/

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/technical-stuff/12755-my-experience-adding-acetone-petrol.html

 

Anyone has experience with this ? Some queries will be :

1) Safe to follow the 2.5ml / liter rule? ( maybe i will try 1ml / liter first...)

2) Where to buy ?

3) This is not suitable for fuel-injected engine, just to confirm , phantom is NOT fuel-injected right ?

[Hydher]

After removing top box, emptying side saddle bags, tuned my carburator and changed my air filter to knn hi flor, i gto from 29.9 to 37.3km/L on esso 5000. just to share. cheers.

 

On a side note, turning the carb jet clockwise takes in more air. Vice versa on the other direction on petrol. Monitor your spark plug to make sure you are not running hot. Better to be on the rich side which mine still is.

[mepkoh]

hey..thats wonderful...37.3 km/L..

by the way your calculation is based on the fuel u used and the speedo readings??

 

someone ..infact quite a number has mentioned that the phanton speedo is inaccurate.

some has mentioned..100km/hr is actually 80km/hr..

based on this 20 % diff in speed...

Can i assume that the 37.3km/L is actually 37.3x.8??= 29.84km/L?????

[sh3rman]

does the mileage being calculated from the speed

or maybe like those bicycle circumference of tyre kind?

HAHAHA.. i dunno..

[tankee1981]

yea yea.. my Fc is improving from 35km to now 42km... ;-)

 

This is amazing! I didn't really take note of my FC so maybe i should now. Some bro mentioned about lowering the idling speed. How does that help to reduce FC and how can it be done.

 

Thanks!

[Hydher]

idling doesnt help much. tuning it does., at your own risk.

[mepkoh]

the greatest tool to use in good fc ..is:

 

1. your right hand...twist gently when pick up..

2. your left leg...change to the highest gear gently..

maintain at the lowest possible speed at any gear.

3. you right leg..use sparingly..watch out for hazards and avoid hitting the barkes.

4. shed loads on the bike..including your GF.

5. plan your route with leastest traffic lights.

6. service and maintain your bike properly...eg correct air pressure for tyres..slightly higher for better fc...but bad for braking..

 

how many of the above can you do?? if all of them..then 50km/l and above is not that impossible.

[rylche]

When I was newer, I went really slow and could achieve about 37-39km/l. Nowadays, I ride faster to avoid being tailgated and being (nearly) sideswiped by other larger vehicles. And my FC has taken a huge hit to 32km/l

[VidaK]

When I was newer, I went really slow and could achieve about 37-39km/l. Nowadays, I ride faster to avoid being tailgated and being (nearly) sideswiped by other larger vehicles. And my FC has taken a huge hit to 32km/l

 

my fc ranges from 26km/l to 36km/l

[lycan]

remove all your box(s)/bag(s) to get a good FC.

 

[jtzx]

agree.. i remove my 3 box. bike feels so light.. shoik lahz..

[razali1980]

Have anyone tried fuel additive b4?? i saw it at Giant Vivocity. Forgot the brand, but cos about $5++ i think. Very small bottle. It look like for car, but dun know is bike can use or not...

[razali1980]

Will update with picture soon. Maybe I will give it a try on my bike and update you all also...

[jtzx]

i dun its a good idea to put that on bike..

[VidaK]

fuel addictives... you won't feel much difference on the phantom... unless it is nitro...

 

I do use octane boosters when I go thailand though... since their petrol is horrible...

[devil.L]

agree.. i remove my 3 box. bike feels so light.. shoik lahz..

 

you shd try my bike man..

definitely feel weightless t you.. haha!

[VidaK]

you shd try my bike man..

definitely feel weightless t you.. haha!

 

lol this is getting off-topic but I have to post this... my other bike weigh only 85kg!