Adiva ADtre owner's thread

[ben1112]

you could consider the suggestion to go by to any car audio workshop to buy the "loose" pieces of the sound proof padding with the stick adhesive side while the other side is the aluminium foil material. This sound proof padding material has dual purpose not just only meant for sound proofing the car doors, the aluminium foil side kept the heat away too.

 

The car audio workhop "loose" piece is suffice as the AD3 does not require the whole large piece.

 

That's great info there! I've definitely ask around audio workshop when I have the time. I have already applied exhaust wrap to the header to help reduce the heat but I feel its effective 50% only.

[ben1112]

Hi Andre

Thanks and appreciated the compliments.

 

What was done is prototype as to gather the best possible solutions to a design concept and mindful on cost, easy adoption of local source parts and non messy modifications.

 

Noted your earlier post to use the industrial "cable trunking" PVC piece, with hot air to shape out the side reflectors design object does seems another solution provider....

 

We have tried out this "after mod" and has able the AD3 to "swim" through without the rider getting wet which somehow tested successful if to compare with the original or "before mod" status...

 

I tend to agree that this prototype looks like a hack work...nonetheless once the rain deflector design concept is affirmative which the refinement process shall follows.....

 

Don't be alarm that this said modify work would have to "cut" or "saw" the AD3 body parts.

 

FYI the car mud guards are fitted without drilling the AD3 lower body.

 

The lower part of the car mud guard is screw on using the existing AD3 body screw holes and the top part is "clip on" and they are held down by the added on rubber lining......

 

feel free to query if there are further clarifications ...

 

May I ask if the water spray from the front tyres still hit the cvt cover on the left side and exhaust cover on the right side?

[ben1112]

Btw I have already tested Dr.Pulley 14gram sliders and it does improve overall power by a little in exchange for approximately 200rpm increased throughout the rev range. FC dropped from 24 to 22km/l but at the same period my tyres were running on low pressure due to faulty valve, so it may not be accurate.

 

Some confirmed advantage are much longer lifespan compare to normal rollers, more power for acceleration.

 

At a later date will install the HiT clutch.

[Andre]

Hi Andre

 

Noted your earlier post to use the industrial "cable trunking" PVC piece, with hot air to shape out the side reflectors design object does seems another solution provider....

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No no no, not PVC Trunking cover. It is Switchboard & DBs internal insulation cover. It come in 1200mm x 2400mm form. What I use is with 2mm thickness. Can get from Electrical Hardware distirbutor like Choo Jiang Marketing etc.

[Andre]

Rode in light rain this morning. Tested the DIY side deflectors.

Now my legs and shoes were dry but bottom side of my thighs still get some water.

Pillion side, improved a bit but the shoes and leg still get wet.

Need to figure out how to improve further. Probably bend the deflectors outward further.

 

The rider foot rest still dry..

 

 

The pillion's foot rest and leg wet.

[ben1112]

Rode in light rain this morning. Tested the DIY side deflectors.

Now my legs and shoes were dry but bottom side of my thighs still get some water.

Pillion side, improved a bit but the shoes and leg still get wet.

Need to figure out how to improve further. Probably bend the deflectors outward further.

 

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The rider foot rest still dry..

 

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The pillion's foot rest and leg wet.

 

Andre I am very certain yr problem will be alleviated if you install the wheel mud flap either pre-fab or DIY also will improve the condition of water spray thru the narrow part to pillion foot.

[Andre]

Agree with you. The mudflap or mudguard is a MUST have.

[Landwaster]

Update on the USB relocation project... Searched Sim Lim Tower from basement to top floor and found only 1 shop which sells the female USB port in a mountable version. Main problem is that is cost $25 just for the port alone. The quality of the port is very solid and even has rubber piece on the mounting ring to provide some water proofing. Some pics below. It is available on the top floor in a shop at the corner of the floor (turn right and go to the end after coming up from escalator)

 

Did not buy the USB port as I felt that was just too expensive. Think will try to see if it is possible to dismantle the existing USB port and reduce the size so that is small enough for the dashboard....

 

 

[Landwaster]

Andre I am very certain yr problem will be alleviated if you install the wheel mud flap either pre-fab or DIY also will improve the condition of water spray thru the narrow part to pillion foot.

 

Similar experience on the mudflap on my side this morning. The mudflaps managed to deflect most of the water from the front wheels (looked down for a sec and can actually see quite a bit of water being deflected by the mudflaps). Still felt some light spray coming up from the middle of the floorboard (the narrowest portion). Thinking to relocate the mudflaps to a lower position to see if will help, but they are already quite low and worried that may affect cornering...

[sazman]

you get from MAH? they call you already?

what colour you getting ? 300/200?

 

Sorry guys for the late reply... Damn busy at work this week. Anyway my bike is yet to be released from the shop. It's a white 300 ver. Nvrtheless I'm already thinking of making the same mod as Andre... Haha

 

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[ben1112]

Similar experience on the mudflap on my side this morning. The mudflaps managed to deflect most of the water from the front wheels (looked down for a sec and can actually see quite a bit of water being deflected by the mudflaps). Still felt some light spray coming up from the middle of the floorboard (the narrowest portion). Thinking to relocate the mudflaps to a lower position to see if will help, but they are already quite low and worried that may affect cornering...

 

My mounting point is about 2cm from the edge for the middle bolt. At high speed the flaps may 'flap' occasionally but to no ill effect for the handling. If you lower the flaps the only concern is contact with the tyre which I think I have sufficiently overcome the problem with the stiff plastic structure.

 

So far so good the past few hundred KMs or so. Waterspray from the bottom does not bother me anymore and my suede shoes are dry. Only the part just under the windshield lets water to my knees and thigh which i intend to use the remedy adiva89 recommended.

[ben1112]

Update on the USB relocation project... Searched Sim Lim Tower from basement to top floor and found only 1 shop which sells the female USB port in a mountable version. Main problem is that is cost $25 just for the port alone. The quality of the port is very solid and even has rubber piece on the mounting ring to provide some water proofing. Some pics below. It is available on the top floor in a shop at the corner of the floor (turn right and go to the end after coming up from escalator)

 

Did not buy the USB port as I felt that was just too expensive. Think will try to see if it is possible to dismantle the existing USB port and reduce the size so that is small enough for the dashboard....

 

 

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Look forward to your findings on dismantling the existing USB ports.

[Landwaster]

Did some checking on the existing USB ports on the AD3. Turns out that it is actually quite easy to do so. The USB ports is locked in place by a plastic ring (screw threads) at the back of the unit. Need to twist and turn the external port (the one with the rubber cap) a bit to loosen the ring on the inside. Once loose enough, you can rotate the locking ring using your fingers and un-screw the locking ring. the main USB port unit can be easily taken out from the bike body. Some pics below.

 

The inside part of the USB port is just under the felt layer in the rear storage compartment. Next step is to find a suitable item/plug to cover the hole when the USB port is removed and to get some red-black wiring to extend the wiring to the dash-board and also to decide where to position the USB port on the dash. Any suggestions?

 

 

[ben1112]

Did some checking on the existing USB ports on the AD3. Turns out that it is actually quite easy to do so. The USB ports is locked in place by a plastic ring (screw threads) at the back of the unit. Need to twist and turn the external port (the one with the rubber cap) a bit to loosen the ring on the inside. Once loose enough, you can rotate the locking ring using your fingers and un-screw the locking ring. the main USB port unit can be easily taken out from the bike body. Some pics below.

 

The inside part of the USB port is just under the felt layer in the rear storage compartment. Next step is to find a suitable item/plug to cover the hole when the USB port is removed and to get some red-black wiring to extend the wiring to the dash-board and also to decide where to position the USB port on the dash. Any suggestions?

 

 

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Lan, I would suggest get some spare parts fuel cap and glue it on. Like those scrambler got those round cap or even aftermarket one aluminum one.

[ben1112]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RENAULT-19-ALLOY-CARBON-EFFECT-FUEL-FLAP-CAP-COVER-TRIM-NEW-CAR-EXTERIOR-STYLING-/370584817130

 

http://www.passionauto.co.uk/products/28887-citroen-c2-alloy-carbon-effect-fuel-cap-cover.html

 

http://www.autoanything.com/chrome-accessories/73A4837A0A0.aspx

 

Lan may I suggest something like these?

[sazman]

How abt getting a cheap multi usb adapter instead? $2 at Daiso..

 

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[advia89]

May I ask if the water spray from the front tyres still hit the cvt cover on the left side and exhaust cover on the right side?

 

Dear Ben

The key concern in the begining is the rainwater or water from the ground swirl up by the front 2 tyres to form the spray shall soak wet the rider and the pillion.

 

What we have shared after the modifications to dis-alleviated the stream line dynamics on the AD3 front windscreen and lower body contour was to minimise the water flow pattern and try to cut off as much water streaming into the cabin area. By the deflection effect.

 

To revert to your query that in my analysis to conclude that the water swirl up by the tyres, forming into a water sprays will hit the CVT cover and the rear exhaust piping.

 

I've provide the photos to picture the pro and cons during the water spray effect and hope this have a clearer picture for understanding.

Edited October 7, 2013 by advia89

[Andre]

Well done again, thanks for sharing.

I think we can't stop the water sprays to the CVT cover & exhaust.

Main thing is to minimize water spraying to the cabin.

[ben1112]

Excellent illustration, bro adiva89. If I may point out that your example of the wider width of the mudflap reducing spray in to the cabin by the sides, the same should hold true for the bottom spray in to the pillion foot/ cvt. The lower the mudflap, the less acute the angle of water spray upwards.

 

Prevention of the upwards spray towards the pillion foot is definitely do-able but to the extend of cvt area may be a bit more difficult. As Andre pointed out it's less of a priority so please ignore my question as an afterthought, thanks.

Edited October 8, 2013 by ben1112

[ben1112]

Repost.......

Edited October 8, 2013 by ben1112

[Andre]

Just done the first 1000 km service. Beside engine oil, what else need to be changed? Any oil filter?

Was told the gear oil only need to be changed at 3000 km.

[Andre]

Btw, care for a TTS?

Thurday or Friday, after 9.00pm.

Suggest venue : Katong LC or SengKang Fernvale KouFu?

[Landwaster]

Btw, care for a TTS?

Thurday or Friday, after 9.00pm.

Suggest venue : Katong LC or SengKang Fernvale KouFu?

 

I'm should be ok on Thurs nite for SengKang Fernvale KouFu. Have a long meeting until 9 plus pm on Fri nite

[advia89]

 

The AD3 has 2 covers covering the CVT area. The outer cover is the black color cover which is just below the air filter chamber, this black cover is covering the metal casing and this inner metal casing cover, covers the CVT mechanism which also forms part of the main engine frame and purpose is to stablise the rear axle wheel mechanism dynamic centrifugal force.

 

The air filter is the (dark orangey color) paper corrugated material which is expandable part. The circular sponge material filter is to allow air flow to cool the CVT.

 

Unlike the AD200 has only 1 polyurethane material cover, covering the CVT.

 

On the AD3, the drive belt has double sided tooth belt.

 

The AD3 CVT variator and clutch components seems to be larger in diameter or has a bigger circumference which could be the cause, to allow the scooter to achieve higher in speed as compared to AD200.

Edited October 8, 2013 by advia89

[advia89]

Excellent illustration, bro adiva89. If I may point out that your example of the wider width of the mudflap reducing spray in to the cabin by the sides, the same should hold true for the bottom spray in to the pillion foot/ cvt. The lower the mudflap, the less acute the angle of water spray upwards.

 

Prevention of the upwards spray towards the pillion foot is definitely do-able but to the extend of cvt area may be a bit more difficult. As Andre pointed out it's less of a priority so please ignore my question as an afterthought, thanks.

 

 

Thanks for the comment. Your suggestion by lowering the mud flaps does seems to helps as however this lowered mud flaps shall rub against the road surface during maneuvering corners or turning.

 

If you refer to the photo which shown the slipper represent the rider and bare feet is the pillion that the splashing water does seem to be coming from the narrow part of the foot board to wet the pillion's feet. Probably the sealing of the said narrow area could be consider.

 

Sort of worry the aesthetics look of the Ad3 have to be compromised if many of the water reduction structures are in place.

Edited October 8, 2013 by advia89