Old School Honda C70

[transformer]

The honda cub story - Asian version.

http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd285/jeffctlow/supercub/?action=view&current=1542adb8.pbw

 

 

another perhaps??:cheeky

[jimger]

Hi guys, looking for windshield?

Anyone?

[xine]

Woohoo!! This thread is still alive! Yay!

 

I promised pictures of my Project C70 abt a year ago.. so here they are finally! Lol, better late than never rite? Actually I procastinated on the last phase of constructing a wooden crate as a box till I gave it up eventually.. coz of my FYP no time.. oh well~

 

Anyway here are the pics! Hope that it will be of use to pple who is attemptin to DIY spray their bikes. Pictures speak a thousand words after all XD

 

Apologies that I'm nt gonna b as thorough wif my explanations as my Project SP last time though. In case anyone's interested in a white SP, look up my ancient but comprehensive threads on DIY-in a Honda SP

 

Original bike when I got it from my uncle

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/P150610_145004.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/P150610_145002.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/P150610_145001.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/P150610_1450.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/P150610_1449.jpg

 

The shiny new exhaust was juz changed before this photo was taken coz it's really fallin apart and posed as a riding hazard. The wind shield, headlight, mirrors and back signal lights were later replaced as part of the project

 

Dismantling of parts

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/old2.jpg

Rusted Metal below Seat

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/old3.jpg

Sprayed with Pylox Silver!

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/old4.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/old5.jpg

Speedometer is dismantled during the second stage of the project

 

Masking and Spraying Stages

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/maskstages1.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/maskwhite1.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/maskstages2.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/maskwhite2.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/maskwhite4.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/maskwhite3.jpg

 

Masking the original bike to spray a layer of white first. If the surface you are spraying on is not lacquered, you could save some time and juz mask and spray. Otherwise, SAND away the lacquer first! I could show you quite a few pics of the paint peel disaster with my windshield coz I tot I could get away with not sanding..

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/maskbike3.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/maskstages3.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/maskwhite5.jpg

[xine]

After that its the other colors layer after layer. By a 'layer', I mean abt 3 thin coats of the same color. Minimum 3 coats is recommended by the masters, but I feel its juz a guideline. If you're broke, go for 2

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/maskbike0.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/maskbike1.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/maskbike2.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/maskbike4.jpg

 

There is abit of planning involved if you're doin 3 colors like me. I sprayed the darker colors first, mask them, den sprayed the lighter colors, so that any spraying errors can be more easily corrected

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/maskstages5.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/maskstages4.jpg

 

For the black border, I juz made it the same thickness of the one-inch width masking tape at hand, so I dun need to tink so much, haha

 

Lacquer

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/fpart5.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/fpart1.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/fpart4.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/fpart3.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/fpart2.jpg

 

I can't be sure coz it's been a year.. but I think I put abt 4 coats of lacquer in the pics above, den use hairdryer blow. I was doin it at night coz I'm actually rushing for time.

 

What I did is NOT advisable. At least, you should lacquer and dry it in the DAY. There are alot of advice from the masters about this, some say 4 coats at 15 min intervals, some say muz wait 45 mins after every coat, and some say muz spray den leave it in the sun.

 

Some basic truths remain - Hot is good when drying lacquer, and spraying too thick a coat of lacquer will produce tiny bubbles that ruin your paintwork. And NEVER spray more than 2 coats of PYLOX lacquer if you're aiming for a white bike, coz PYLOX laquer is faintly yellow in color. Go through the horror stories of my white sp for more details.

 

Touch-Up

 

I dunno about others but in all my projects, I make mistakes. It's especially true in this one, since I was in a rush n tend take shortcuts leadin to disasters. Luckily, the golden safety net to fall back on in DIY spray is that in the bigger picture, some wayward spray isn't gonna have a big impact on the overall bike outlook. Mistakes that matter, on the other hand, can be easily covered up to the point that they don't XD

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/touched1.jpg

Here you can see some touch ups of yellow and red resulting in the destruction of the black border

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/touched2.jpg

Here you can see that the line is now clean and nice

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/touched3.jpg

Another example of a chui black border

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/touched4.jpg

Another example of magic

 

The magic wand in this case is none other than the Black Marker, lol. I could've tot of other more quality ways to do damage control, but I was too lazy. Nevertheless, it works well enough in the big picture, dun you tink? Now I can spray my damage control of the red, yellow and blue wif ease and juz color the excesses with a black marker. Of coz, your design also determines the type of methods you can use to salvage your artwork, but I tink DIY always requires a streak of improvisation.

[xine]

Finished Project

 

This is what I had in mind with Photoshop. I was goin for a 'toy bike' look, haha

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/FIRE3.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/dashboardREVISEDfinal.jpg

 

This is the how the bike look after everytin is done.

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/DSC00018.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/DSC00011.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/DSC00023.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/DSC00015.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/DSC00029.jpg

 

Not too far off, I'd say : )

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/dashboardREVISEDfinal.jpg

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/DSC00034.jpg

 

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/FIRE3.jpg

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad29/yanxln/sbf/DSC00010.jpg

 

Except for the doomed crate of course, lol

Edited August 2, 2011 by xine

[fx110]

you have a very good job bro

[Bozzoz]

hello frens,im new here too.c70 rider.hope to meet up. east siders here.

[fx110]

hello frens,im new here too.c70 rider.hope to meet up. east siders here.

 

welcome bro

[jlow]

Bros, I am in the midst of overhauling my C90. I am replacing a cracked bloc and managed to find a preowned piece in good condition. May I know where I can buy the piston and get the block right sized? Thanks in advance for any good advise.

[fx110]

Bros, I am in the midst of overhauling my C90. I am replacing a cracked bloc and managed to find a preowned piece in good condition. May I know where I can buy the piston and get the block right sized? Thanks in advance for any good advise.

 

if i not wrong C90 piston(50mm bore) size same as EX5 High Power, only have shorter stroke than EX5.

not the problem if u convert to EX5 cylinder blok:-

 

try your luck here, its scrap yard.

Hup Lee Leong Hardware

26, Sungei Kadut St 3.

9719 7180 (Mr Chia)

6363 5055

[jlow]

Yes it 50mm bore, I have the block liao, need piston and ring...

Do you think he has?

 

if i not wrong C90 piston(50mm bore) size same as EX5 High Power, only have shorter stroke than EX5.

not the problem if u convert to EX5 cylinder blok:-

 

try your luck here, its scrap yard.

Hup Lee Leong Hardware

26, Sungei Kadut St 3.

9719 7180 (Mr Chia)

6363 5055

[fx110]

Yes it 50mm bore, I have the block liao, need piston and ring...

Do you think he has?

 

like that dont go there, coz used piston and ring abit risky to use

have to go JB find.

[jlow]

just called, they don't have. Seems like JB is the only choice for the moment...

 

like that dont go there, coz used piston and ring abit risky to use

have to go JB find.

[Bozzoz]

anybody can help with my battery.currently using 6 volt and the signals and lights and horn doesnt seem to work right.

[fx110]

anybody can help with my battery.currently using 6 volt and the signals and lights and horn doesnt seem to work right.

 

as 6V battery going old, will be like....

[ken11]

Any one can help me here?

I need to overhual my c70. maybe bore it till 90cc.where can i do it?

I need original meter set and exhaust pipe.

think my bike going down soon.

[fx110]

Any one can help me here?

I need to overhual my c70. maybe bore it till 90cc.where can i do it?

I need original meter set and exhaust pipe.

think my bike going down soon.

 

thats hard to getting down a Honda C70

 

what's wrong with your bike?

[fx110]

90cc conversion can try find at this shop.

Brillant Motor,

23, Jalan Kebudayaan 1,

Taman Universiti

Skudai

81300 Johor

Tel:07-5214721

 

 

NOTE:Just for sharing, NFS temporary

selling price is according the current COE price....

 

bike detail

 

current spec:

engine

-actual capacity：90.44cc

-Bore x Stroke：50.25 x 45.6mm

-EX5 Head & Blok（50.25mm，stock:47mm） (stock Head & Blok with give together)

-Fame Crank Shaft（45.6mm,stock:41.4mm）(stock crank shaft with give together)

-4th speed, Over-Drive (stock 3-speed gear box with give together)

-Keihin PB 89 A (EX5 carb)

-EX5 exhaust pipe

-16/40 sprocket wit 428，DID (14T 15T 32T 33T 34T 35T 38T with give together)

-oil cooler radiator

 

Electrical

-EX5 Wiring system (12V)

-EX5 CDi

-125z Rectifier

-Dual-Volt Meter

-Split Fire Plug cable

-NGK CR7HIX

-Grounding

 

-EX5 Racing Boy 8 leg sport rim

F：1.4x17

R：1.6x17

-Michelin Pilot Sporty tyre

F：60/90-17

R：70/90-17

 

-Suspension

R:Showa from CB400 PB1 (EX5 Stock rear shock will give together)

 

Not Urgent Sales

 

[Bozzoz]

as 6V battery going old, will be like....

 

I dont really understand.

[fx110]

I dont really understand.

 

that' common problem for 6V battery

[jlow]

Yes it 50mm bore, I have the block liao, need piston and ring...

Do you think he has?

 

Bro if I swop to a EX5 Bloc then I need a shorter cam chain right?

[fx110]

Bro if I swop to a EX5 Bloc then I need a shorter cam chain right?

 

noneed if u can find the S90 camchain roller.

[jlow]

Bro where is JB can I find parts? Do they open at night? Is it far from causeway?

 

Looks like it gonna take long for me to buff it up...

[Bozzoz]

that' common problem for 6V battery

 

to hear Common is very comforting.at least i know im not alone.heeeeee...Meet Ups?

[Bozzoz]

Bro where is JB can I find parts? Do they open at night? Is it far from causeway?

 

Looks like it gonna take long for me to buff it up...

 

Anyway bro jlow,u doing up ur bike to up ur speed level? can i join as i was thinking of it too....