DIY Chain Oiler

[BaMBiNo]

i seem to have problems with my oiler leh... the oil does not seem to flow properly leh... can advice ?

[Limsteel]

I can't see your actual setup and condition... don't know what to advise...

 

but here are 2 problems I encounter during my initial startup...

 

In order for the flow to start, I had to suck on the tube to start flow. hehe The tube was clean intially... can't base on pure gravity to start flow

 

Air bubbles along the oil lines, try to get rid of all the air bubbles. open the reglator max and let the oil flow out (at the same time push the air bubbles out)

[bigwhizkid3]

Hi guys,

 

What kind of oil do you all use for the oiler?

 

I am doing a simple one for now to prevent damage to my chain and will be doing a more complex and auto one later.

 

Will post when i am done...

 

[S750WP]

Originally posted by bigwhizkid3@Mar 6 2006, 01:44 AM

Hi guys,

 

What kind of oil do you all use for the oiler?

 

I am doing a simple one for now to prevent damage to my chain and will be doing a more complex and auto one later.

 

Will post when i am done...

 

Left over engine oil for bike and car.

[BaMBiNo]

Originally posted by Limsteel@Mar 5 2006, 10:25 AM

I can't see your actual setup and condition... don't know what to advise...

 

but here are 2 problems I encounter during my initial startup...

 

In order for the flow to start, I had to suck on the tube to start flow. hehe The tube was clean intially... can't base on pure gravity to start flow

 

Air bubbles along the oil lines, try to get rid of all the air bubbles. open the reglator max and let the oil flow out (at the same time push the air bubbles out)

hi limsteel... so i gotta suck the air till all the bubbles in the tube got no air bubbles is it?

[Limsteel]

First open the regulator to max flow... then Lowering the pressure at the end of the tube will initiate the flow. Please don't suck until you start drinking engine oil

 

Once the flow starts, use another container to collect the oil. the high flowraate will push all the small bubbles along the tube out.

 

Once all the bubble is out, you shouold have a smoother flow of oil.

[BaMBiNo]

got it... will get it done thn update... btw how do you stop little leaks from the main resevior?

[bigwhizkid3]

Fixed my first version of DIY oiler two days ago but took it off before i go to use it.

 

Firstly there is no place for my to mount the bottle on the outside. And inside the bike i had not explore yet, but putting it inside will prove difficult to oil. Secondly the metal valve i got will leak when it is closed.

 

So back to the drawing board.

 

 

BTW i used some $5/litre trans oil and they are really thick and oily....

 

[Limsteel]

Slight leak cannot be avoided... These valve are low precision valve not 100% leak prove... What you expect from 50c valve

 

Unless the leak is really too high causing a puddle of oil on the floor then I think you got a problem.

 

as long as there is a gap (no matter how small) oil will get through. So don't bother plugging all the holes (it's too late anyway, if you see oil stain) just clean up often (unless the oil leak is too messy... time to change bottle.)

[bigwhizkid3]

I got those valve for $1.00 each...

I am thinking of one solution that is valve less and will only activate when the engine is on and side stand and main stand both off. So if warm up bike then it wont leak as well...

 

[shahrul_azmil3]

hey i tried sms christ about the chain oiler ... no respond .... i really need a chain oiler coz difficult to lube my chain ar ... no main stand .... if diy myself ar s*it ... i'm a total idiot .....

[BaMBiNo]

Originally posted by bigwhizkid3@Mar 10 2006, 11:24 AM

Fixed my first version of DIY oiler two days ago but took it off before i go to use it.

 

Firstly there is no place for my to mount the bottle on the outside. And inside the bike i had not explore yet, but putting it inside will prove difficult to oil. Secondly the metal valve i got will leak when it is closed.

 

So back to the drawing board.

 

 

BTW i used some $5/litre trans oil and they are really thick and oily....

 

hey bro... i oso used the metal valve and leaking too i went back and bought a black and orange valve... leaking stopped... hope this helps... cheers

[BaMBiNo]

limsteel... thanks once again... the bubbles in the tube was the cause... coz when i got rid of the bubbles... everything was ok again.... but now my bott is leaking... i htink its due to the thin material ... anyone using better botts?? can intro ? thanks limsteel and everyone in this few pages which contributed to my success in the diy oiler!!

[bigwhizkid3]

Originally posted by BaMBiNo@Mar 12 2006, 03:05 PM

hey bro... i oso used the metal valve and leaking too i went back and bought a black and orange valve... leaking stopped... hope this helps... cheers

is it a plastic valve or metal one?

[BaMBiNo]

the one i am using now is plastic... no leaks! hahaha... if u wanna get u go to the shop beside rainbow (corner one) u go in ask for plastic valve orange/black colour... whole casing is black but the part where u turn is orange... cheers... if u afraid cant find thn drop me a pm... gimme yr no... and i willing bring to the shop !

 

cheers

[bigwhizkid3]

Originally posted by BaMBiNo@Mar 20 2006, 03:58 AM

the one i am using now is plastic... no leaks! hahaha... if u wanna get u go to the shop beside rainbow (corner one) u go in ask for plastic valve orange/black colour... whole casing is black but the part where u turn is orange... cheers... if u afraid cant find thn drop me a pm... gimme yr no... and i willing bring to the shop !

 

cheers

Thanks.

 

I think i know which shop you talking about.

 

[Crazy]

Can anybody help me diy a oiler? Pm me price n info. Thanks alot.

[Limsteel]

Dude, very simple to do... look at the material and pics guys here uploaded... it fun and easy to do!

 

Drop by a fish shop and get some tubes (2m long, should be more than enough), connectors (plastic 1 to 1 connectors), valves ( plastic regulator and a metal on/off valve), small platics applicator (WD40 tube or a cotton bud plastic handle) and a tube of Super glue!

 

As they mentioned, about unbalance lubing. all I can say is 1 sided lube is better then no lube!

[01Viffer]

Been awhile since anyone update on this thread....

 

So anyone invented the auto on/off oiler yet?

[Limsteel]

I got PMs from some saying that the setup is inconsistant. I myself got the same problem. So I adjusted the flow till it is virtually ZERO flow during parking. How I know that the oil is flowing? I still see oil stain on my swing arm.

 

During riding due to vibration and other forces (wind) oil will flow onto the my rear sprocks. so far so good.

 

Auto-off can be done, if you buy a fuel valve. like those used on Bandit400. connect the valve between the oil lines and then another to the carb. it should work.

[lindavw]

240ml medicine bottles vaccum?

my reservoir now is using a rear brake reservoir so it is not vaccum oso or the oil wun flow.

i have been thinking to mod it into something like scott oil, tapping the vaccum pipe from the carbs there but i cant find a big reservoir to contain the oil.... what i have in hand now only a 50ml vaccum bottle.

[Aalex82]

recently i juz install a diy oiler wif 2 point of lub..

but i find out that if i turn off the oiler while travelling, the oil will drip on the chain from the oil that is present in the tube..

creating a air gap from the tip end to my Y- connector..

this result in no dripping of oil when i turn on the oiler the next time..

is it that we hav to turn on it everytime when we travel??

cos i was thinking of turning on the oiler onli when i find the chain is dry..

thanks..

[william_liu]

The way I modified mine last time is get it to slowly drip while I'm on the move (ala Scottoiler) so that this problem doesn't happen.

 

So what I did was to install another switch to control 'On' and 'Off', and left the original screw to control the amount of oil flowing out. I then set this amount to drip very slowly through trial and error. Hope this helps!

 

[Limsteel]

Originally posted by Aalex82@Oct 5 2006, 02:51 PM

recently i juz install a diy oiler wif 2 point of lub..

but i find out that if i turn off the oiler while travelling, the oil will drip on the chain from the oil that is present in the tube..

creating a air gap from the tip end to my Y- connector..

this result in no dripping of oil when i turn on the oiler the next time..

is it that we hav to turn on it everytime when we travel??

cos i was thinking of turning on the oiler onli when i find the chain is dry..

thanks..

Don't think you can do much, as oil flows out, air will replace the space. Unless you can use a applicator tube that has a very small internal diameter. This way the small inner dameter will not allow air and oil to exchange places. thus oil will remain filled in your Y connector.

 

But are you already using the WD40 tube as the applicator? if yes, what else can we used that has an even smaller inner diameter? or use thicker oil, mix abit of STP smoke fix or something like that is should thinken the oil and flow will be further slow down, same will happen during riding.

 

Currently. I am using an applicator with a much bigger inner diameter and encounter dripping even when I off the on/off valve.

[Aalex82]

Originally posted by william_liu@Oct 5 2006, 04:13 PM

The way I modified mine last time is get it to slowly drip while I'm on the move (ala Scottoiler) so that this problem doesn't happen.

 

So what I did was to install another switch to control 'On' and 'Off', and left the original screw to control the amount of oil flowing out. I then set this amount to drip very slowly through trial and error. Hope this helps!

 

i do the same way as yrs..

but the problem lies wif the tube end..

i oso use those WD40 tube..

maybe i use too thin of the engine oil..

or maybe mkt will sell those tip end wif valve..

if the on/off valve is very very near the tip, the air gap will not be so signifince..