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why clutch in to start bike?

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IvikaRazI Newbie

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Hahha anyway I think for EFI, need to clutch in. I think got something to do with the EFI unit. Electronic mah. So maybe they already done the research and found that by clutching in will not disturb the EFI electronic components. I guess only hor...don't flame me. I still cannot find anything about this on the internet.

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MC28 Newbie

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cause for some bikes, mainly the newer suzuki ones, u need to clutch in to start to bike.

 

Not only applicable to newer gixxers..Infact since the SRAD bumblebee era..

 

And if you realise, yammies dont have to do that so it's nt all class 2..Only some..

 

I would call that a safety feature..

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.Hack Newbie

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My previous 06'R1 don't have this feature too. But current K2 need to clutch in.

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ghost04 Newbie

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suzuki need to clutch in. yamaha no need. honda no need. clutching in to start bike wont harm the bike. if it benefits some parts inside then why not?

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aeX Newbie

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i thought most bike cannot start if gear is not in neutral? correct me if i am wrong :)

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ghost04 Newbie

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my s4 spec 2 is like tat..no neutral no start even if clutch in.

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Reddevil76 Newbie

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I'm surprised at all these dubious theories when end of the day, no one got it right. Nowadays, the forum is getting worse with this trend.

 

People dunno the answer, still anyhow come up with some "cheem" theory to sound knowledgeable.. Sigh..

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Reddevil76 Newbie

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Anyway, to prevent a user from starting the bike while it is in gear and having the bike lurch forward, some manufacturers (notably suzuki) designed a switch at the clutch lever. When the clutch lever is pulled in, the switch is pressed in and closes the ignition circuit, thus allowing the bike to be started.

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Reddevil76 Newbie

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It is a safety feature so that should the bike be in gear, the bike would not lurch forward. SIMPLE AS THAT.

 

Not bullshit about efi, or lubing clutch cable, or wearing out engine components! Aaargh!

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redbeacon Newbie

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i thought most bike cannot start if gear is not in neutral? correct me if i am wrong :)

On some bikes like the BBDC Honda Titan CG125, and the Honda RVF [yes, it has a sensor], the rider can choose to start from Gear 1, but the clutch must be pulled in.

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Reddevil76 Newbie

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To not know, drives one to further seek the truth.

 

To know falsely, is bloody dangerous!

 

Please think before you anyhow hantam an answer next time, someone might take it as a fact and end up believing the wrong thing. Disinformation is dangerous!

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natgw Newbie

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On some bikes like the BBDC Honda Titan CG125, and the Honda RVF [yes, it has a sensor], the rider can choose to start from Gear 1, but the clutch must be pulled in.

 

it cant be done for mine. bike needs to be in neutral to start no matter what.

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DaN zI Newbie

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it cant be done for mine. bike needs to be in neutral to start no matter what.

 

mine can leh. gear 1 clutch in can start.. of cos side stand must kick away

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redbeacon Newbie

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Think I need to tinker around a bit liao... Wonder whether our bikes do have this magical clutch-in talent :D

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DUsGary Newbie

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well whether or not.

clutch-in when starting bike doesnt harm or endanger any **** of your bike.

just an extra motion of your left fingers gripping the clutch only.

so why kinda having arrows shooting about on "clutching in or not?"

 

*my 2cents thought

DM Newbie

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yeah :nono: to all those who anyhow only. anyway, when i turn on the ignition and see the neutral light, i wouldn't bother to clutch in. it's my habit to check the neutral light every time i turn it on. learnt a valuable lesson back in my 2b days when i tried to kickstart my nsr150sp while some f*cker engaged my 1st gear. kick only the whole bike pounce forward and *bom* on the ground liao. from that incident, i would always check my neutral light before i crank the engine.

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Guest Quincy

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just sharing personal info...

 

I personally clutch in & change to 1st gear during start cos i dun like to hear e loud sound of kicking from neutral to 1st... heart pain... Plus it doesn't stress e chain (am i right?)

 

even at traffic light i right leg on brake den left hand clutch in cos e sound really makes my heart pain... haha...

Izammo Newbie

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just sharing personal info...

 

I personally clutch in & change to 1st gear during start cos i dun like to hear e loud sound of kicking from neutral to 1st... heart pain... Plus it doesn't stress e chain (am i right?)

 

even at traffic light i right leg on brake den left hand clutch in cos e sound really makes my heart pain... haha...

normal wat the sound. why heart pain seh?

skateboy Newbie

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just sharing personal info...

 

I personally clutch in & change to 1st gear during start cos i dun like to hear e loud sound of kicking from neutral to 1st... heart pain... Plus it doesn't stress e chain (am i right?)

 

even at traffic light i right leg on brake den left hand clutch in cos e sound really makes my heart pain... haha...

 

all big bikes have this characteristic. n how much stress can it cause for the chain to jerk when engaging gear?

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skateboy Newbie

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i only know suzuki bikes need to clutch in then can start the bike. scooters need to engage the brake then can start the bike. side stand down, clutch in with gear 1, confirm cannot start cos its a safety device. for those who can start with gear 1 clutched in with side stand down, either the bike dun have that safety device or its faulty yet still can start.

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redbeacon Newbie

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it cant be done for mine. [RVF] bike needs to be in neutral to start no matter what.

 

mine can leh. gear 1 clutch in can start.. of cos side stand must kick away

 

Think I need to tinker around a bit liao... Wonder whether our bikes do have this magical clutch-in talent :D

 

 

Hey guys, I'm back again.

I've referred to the Haynes Manual for the Honda RVF and it states this on one of its pages:

 

 

The clutch switch is housed in the clutch lever bracket. Along with the "Sidestand Switch", it is part of the safety circuit which

 

 

...prevents the engine from starting if the transmission is in gear unless the sidestand is up and the clutch lever is pulled in.

 

I tried this at my carpark. Gear one, sidestand up, clutched in.

Press the starter and yep, my bike started as proven :cool:

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