[Technical] Queries for TA150

[SNapEl]

Saw a ta150 with a really weird looking engine... Its either part of the engine case came off or owner go change engine... see if i can upload the pic.

[Wizard]

what brand of coolant is best for ta150 btw?

need some good coolant to cool everyone in this thread..

[newcomer]

But TA150 is liquid cool one mah, no put will overheat leh...

I only familiar with air-cooled 4-stroker bikes, newbie on 2-strokers....

 

Water can or not har? Coolant more expensive than tap water leh...

 

NEVER USE TAP WATER ONLY! whenever possible, avoid using tap water. use distilled water if you can, and mix it with the appropriate amt of coolant! cooling system is expensive to overhaul... using tap water WILL guarantee to corrode your cooling system and damage the complex seals in the waterpump.

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5553576&postcount=30

[hamsterwhale]

TA150 don't put coolant, just put water can or not har?

 

NEVER USE TAP WATER ONLY! whenever possible, avoid using tap water. use distilled water if you can, and mix it with the appropriate amt of coolant! cooling system is expensive to overhaul... using tap water WILL guarantee to corrode your cooling system and damage the complex seals in the waterpump.

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5553576&postcount=30

 

its because of the minerals reacting to the metal thats causing the corrosion, or rusting in lay mans term, anyway sg use distilled water still the best...

[hamsterwhale]

1st of all, thanks for your inputs. fyi, i didint say it is normal if a bike emits too much white smoke. A 2 stroke engine obviously WILL produce white smoke, if it doesnt then the engine is in serious trouble, too much white smoke meaning 2T is too concentrated in the air fuel-mixture which is also no gd as it will leave more carbon deposits behind.

 

secondly, i not using my cert to prove i noe everything. qualification needs to be backed up by experience. that is very true, however we all know in singapore society, no paper = no future no matter how much exp u have. sure you can open a garage and workshop, run it and earn money but that's abt it. no more progress from there. experience is important so is paper qualification, paper qualification brings you progress but not neccessarily exp.

 

lastly, this thread nor this forum is not meant for flaming one another. if u do not have any beneficial info or comments, pls do keep it to yourself, im so darn tired of flaming, it's so common in most forums, think abt it. we are here to help one another not create tension.

 

Age is not an indication of maturity, it is measured thru how u carry yourself.

 

hi ahcaibiker, im sorry for threading on yours toes from ur reply u quoted, what i've meant as a simple sharing of info has been misconstrued into something else, on that I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE for taking ur time in reading thru my post, on cert part i agree with u, cert does win exp handsdown in sg context...hence i think ur knowledge is far superior then me, im only learning on my own thru library books, discussions, bike tearing, trial and error, and learning from watching how mechanics work....

 

on this ur cert wins handsdown...

 

Ahcaibiker, im sorry for what i've said, and i shall conclude that the white smoke thingy shall be adjourned for now....

 

Mods if u think that my reply is considered flaming, then do what u deem best...

 

HUAT LAH!

[Wizard]

so nobody uses coolant on ta150 apart from my ex bike?

[hamsterwhale]

;5577343']so nobody uses coolant on ta150 apart from my ex bike?

 

 

knife brand cooking oil best...can cook at the same time....

[nivleK1985]

kiam, n cs. really... my bike nv touch on coolant b4.

only checked b4 by koon n chong.

both times also nv change

[mepkoh]

it is a fact that your are wrong yet u insist you r right, go gather all the mechanics from bike workshops and ask them the white smoke issue and you know what i mean. if u think you r right, then u r right lor.

 

i understand perfectly sometimes it is difficult to admit one's mistake. pride gets in the way, ouch. Im talking about myself so pls don get touchy itchy over this comment. ah chong is a nice guy, even if i don noe him well. since you think you are right, no amount of words or talking gonna change your mindset. i respect your opinion. not happy? ask honda motorcycles for verification. go back to the manufacturers for their expertise, afterall they r the ones who build the engine. they cant go wrong can they? if they agree minimal white smoke = normal and yet u disagree, then i really nothing to say. go on, tell the ITE automotive instructors they are teaching nonsense.

 

like it anot, in my opinion, u are misleading people. white smoke means trouble....LMAO. all 2 stroke owners, pls go do major engine overhaul... expect to see many sp, krr, rxz, tzm outside bikeshops... pls don take ppl's kindness for his/her weakness.

 

mod, if this gets out of hand pls remove all posts with any provocative comment. im a person who loves peace and am a anti-flamer. u want flame ppl? pls go to stomp. can flame till u song.

 

thank you very much for respecting my opinion...i am so happy that u have say that...

i let the matter rest..

[caydias]

so far those shops which i had my ta150 checked says that the travelling dist in SG is not that far.. on top of that we wont encounter jam that will last a few hours.. even in jams we can zoom pass a lot of cars and lorries... so it's actually quite safe that we use DISTILLED water for the cooling system...

 

However, as we all know that water will evaporate as time pass... and ta150 have the tendency of getting heated up over a short time.. so my recommendation is to add coolant to ur ta150 instead... unless you are those super hardworking kind who will check every other week... a normal coolant doesnt cost much.. can get from tons of places if you search... it's more logical for one to invest in coolant rather then a repair when you forgot to check the water level in the cooling system... it juz take once for things to happen...

[SNapEl]

TA150 with a weird looking engine..

 

But his bike is shiny... can see my reflection.

 

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r357/lczh85/P1050166-1.jpg

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r357/lczh85/P1050162.jpg

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r357/lczh85/P1050161.jpg

[Wizard]

wah.. the engine does indeed look different!

[kwanheng]

TA150 with a weird looking engine..

 

But his bike is shiny... can see my reflection.

 

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r357/lczh85/P1050166-1.jpg

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r357/lczh85/P1050162.jpg

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r357/lczh85/P1050161.jpg

 

ok what your looking at is a Rc valve block. From the looks it also looks like my sp block. Maybe older version of Ta 150 is using rc valve, or there could also be a chance that the person mod his ta 150 to fit rc valve.

[mepkoh]

TA150 with a weird looking engine..

 

But his bike is shiny... can see my reflection.

 

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r357/lczh85/P1050166-1.jpg

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r357/lczh85/P1050162.jpg

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r357/lczh85/P1050161.jpg

i think it has the cover for the 2t pump area and the cylinder cover removed..thus exposing the innards..which we seldom see.

the cover for the sump has been replaced . IMHO

[madman]

looks like parts kena stolen sia...hahaa...

[hamsterwhale]

very minimalist design, not surprise if its a block from sp, cuz they both share same mounting point, and that the internal are same except for the cylinder dimension slightly diff...

[jB]

jb, didn't notice, but starting bike sure white smoke most of the time.

on choke, start bike, warm up i get white smoke. :S

 

riding time, i dun really go see haha

hehe you are too fast, no trails left behind for you to see

[nivleK1985]

safety rider, nothing above 120km/h

[mepkoh]

to set the record straight...

all water cool vehicles that i know off have a water reservoir/container for collecting the overflow water from the radiator. the water will be sucked back to the radiator when the engine cools down. so there is no need to top up water on a daily basis...the topping of water is done to the reservoir/container...if there is aneed to top up say once a week..i would suspect that there is some leakages and losses somewhere. once a month inspection/top up will suffice or when temperature gauge seems to show a higher temp than normal. thats why most riders dont worry about water in the radiator. Experience riders can feel that the ride needs to top up..as for normal mortals inspection still needs to be done.

 

it is best to use distilled water..normal tap water is often hard and have all sorts of chemicals introduced to it ..ie chlorine, flourides and other water softeners added to it. thus this will cause corrosion..chlorine is a very corrosive chemical...the other chemicals will end up as stains, sludges in the

radiator--which will degrade the radiator cooling capability...the addition of coolant mitigates the corrosion aspect..thus using coolant and tap water is not that bad..But the best is still distilled water..the cheapest free source is to cllect the condesation from air conditioners.

[ahpuirider]

I ride a TA150 and am just wondering whether TA150 can use the air filter TA200 uses. i understand they are different as TA150 air filter is like a piece of sponge and TA200's is many layers of folded paper kinda thing and can be cleaned unlike the sponge air filter TA150 uses. pls enlighten me.

[chefiction]

As mention earlier, that i had a problem of black oil dripping from my end can(the only hole at the end part of exhuast) after ride. After inspection at unique motor, was told that it is normal.

 

me: erm boss, can i ask you why sometime my bike got black oil drip from my exhuast pipe or not? my friend told me is normal for 2 stroker, dunno right or not?

 

mech: then normal lor, cos your one just runned in ma(translated from mandrain).

 

 

 

 

Very last problem solved!

 

Previous problem: piston need changed, pipe(buffler?) kana blocked, valve floated with carbon, rear brake reservoir jammed, side stand breaked, ball bearing chui, handle bar shaking(new riser), crutch plate worn out, tire worn out, sprocket worn out.

 

Total repair since i first gotten my bike in late dec: $1120:cheeky:

[mepkoh]

I ride a TA150 and am just wondering whether TA150 can use the air filter TA200 uses. i understand they are different as TA150 air filter is like a piece of sponge and TA200's is many layers of folded paper kinda thing and can be cleaned unlike the sponge air filter TA150 uses. pls enlighten me.

 

modiication required.. but too much trouble...not worth the effort. IMHO

 

 

please remeber..ta 150 ..150cc=300cc 4 stroke at 100% eficiency..obviously not possible...,maybe 250 cc equivalent..thats whya ta150 always outrun ta200 anytime. so the air intake volume is therefore vastly diff...

 

furthemore ta 150...resuable filter..ie clean and reuse (similar to k&n filter)...while ta200 is use and throw type.

[mepkoh]

oil dripping from exhaust..normal???

 

i will tell my mech..your backside leaking still normal???

 

hahahha...

 

you end up riding a smoker..and u will smell of 2t after every ride..

you will grab the attention of all other road users...including tp.

my only suggestion go to another workshop when u need to do EO change and seek 2nd opinion.

[ahpuirider]

noticed some brake fluid leaking from the front brake pump near the lever. as brakes are very crucial, i do not want to take chances and went to a bike shop in yishun and replaced the pump kit as it was cheaper compared to replacing the whole pump assembly. it consists of a short shaft, spring, and a rubber seal. it costs me $55 just for a few small items. It came in a plastic wrapping with a honda paper sticked to it, it says honda genuine part and "made in Japan" clearly imprinted on the paper. was quoted $110 for the whole brake pump assembly... just wondering did i get carroted? someone pls help.

[ahpuirider]

modiication required.. but too much trouble...not worth the effort. IMHO

 

 

please remeber..ta 150 ..150cc=300cc 4 stroke at 100% eficiency..obviously not possible...,maybe 250 cc equivalent..thats whya ta150 always outrun ta200 anytime. so the air intake volume is therefore vastly diff...

 

furthemore ta 150...resuable filter..ie clean and reuse (similar to k&n filter)...while ta200 is use and throw type.

 

thanks. i prefer to use a filter which i can reuse, easier on the pockets. i love the power TA150 generates. whoa, if tp realised that 150cc 2 stroke = 300cc 4 stroke, wont they classify 150cc 2 stokers under class 2A? not nice sia. haha.