[Group] Super Four Non-VTEC Family: PB1 VerR & VerS

[Ah Pek]

tried changing to Splitfire cable for my rxz... Can really feel the diff but thn my frenz warned tat it mite burned the piston also. Using the cable inproved my FC, but i changed back to normal cuz scared my piston gone..

 

This is okay lah...won't burn..its either you take his say or mine. The cable normally are of better resistance free from voltage drop load and os silcon construction..basically transferring the full voltage (should be around 25,000 volts) from the iginition coil to your spark plug gap to havw a more efficient spark for better combustion thus resulting in better FC.

 

As long as you don't chnage or replace your standard ignition step up coil to something like 30K to 45K (which you can and have to change CDI also)..the spark is not that intense lah...moreover..b4 you would want to do this..you also mus mod stuff in your carbs to have that kind of power. Simply put, your standard piston material is not meant to handle what is higher end performance..you want..change to Wiseco race kit.

[Ah Pek]

IUH24D

 

IUH27D

 

Yes...both are correct..it jsut a different between colder and hotter plug and both are Denso Iridium "Power".

 

Why it fail for you...may be you would want to change the heat range. Not sure what mod you have on your bike or your riding habit and style..but a colder range one should be better for you.

 

micron fs with kenso jet kit , it last me only 3000km

 

Sound like very pwoer mod stuff you have leh...may be you should used Denso top performance range call "Iridium Racing"..get the cold range one if any but the one I know is "IU01"...its meant for that hard "come..let'us git goin' thingy" Oh..but $$s...feakin' xpensive. For me...actually Denso U24FER9 will do lah..like taking MRT or faster than bus like that..heeee..x3!

[s4vs]

The bike shop just change denso iridium power IUH27D for my PB1...

 

hi boss, is iridium spark plug better in Our bike? wat u feel for the different? cos think of change too..

[smiley73]

Yes...both are correct..it jsut a different between colder and hotter plug and both are Denso Iridium "Power".

 

Why it fail for you...may be you would want to change the heat range. Not sure what mod you have on your bike or your riding habit and style..but a colder range one should be better for you.

 

 

 

Sound like very pwoer mod stuff you have leh...may be you should used Denso top performance range call "Iridium Racing"..get the cold range one if any but the one I know is "IU01"...its meant for that hard "come..let'us git goin' thingy" Oh..but $$s...feakin' xpensive. For me...actually Denso U24FER9 will do lah..like taking MRT or faster than bus like that..heeee..x3!

 

24 or 27 better

[Ah Pek]

is iridium spark plug better in Our bike? wat u feel for the different?

 

Here..read this..you get a better grasp of things..(I'm using Denso Iridium 27 myself on a PB1 much like Smiley73). In my conclusion...don't expect xtra horsepower but do have a slightly smoother ride, slight FC improvement and the most important to me..don't have to worry about changing plugs too often.

 

Recent advances in fabrication techniques have enabled the use of Iridium - an incredibly hard precious metal, for the construction of spark plug electrodes. Laser technology is used to weld the Iridium tip to spark plugs manufactured by both Denso and NGK. It's worth noting that spark plugs can't increase the potential power that an engine can generate but a more efficient spark will provide more efficient combustion and associated performance and economy benefits. A poor spark from a worn or low grade spark plug will reduce efficiency. An Iridium plug will produce a more efficient spark.

 

http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/graphics/images/densoiridiumtip_t.jpg

Denso Iridium tip - click to enlarge

 

 

Notable properties of Iridium are its melting point - approximately 2450 degrees C, considerably higher than Platinum, and it's strength - approximately 8 times that of platinum.

 

Advantages of Iridium spark plug types

 

Due to the properties of Iridium, the spark plugs centre electrode can be made with a much smaller diameter than with platinum, Gold or gold palladium and copper/nickel types without sacrificing service life. The spark plugs potential difference is more concentrated at the tiny Iridium tip and hence less 'spark jump' voltage is required - this can be as much as 5,000 volts less than with standard plug types. Ignition is improved and less strain is placed on the ignition system. Benefits of improved ignition/combustion include better fuel economy, increased power/acceleration and especially better throttle response.

[Ah Pek]

the 2nd time using it on my bike micron fs with kenso jet kit , it last me only 3000km.

 

Denso Iridium Power racing plugs

 

Denso racing plugs are available for most applications and are a suitable replacement where standard Iridium power plugs may not cope adequately with extreme use and very harsh engine conditions. Superbly engineered with Denso's 0.4mm Iridium centre electrode and a 0.8mm solid platinum ground electrode. Supplied in a protective plastic case. Available heat ranges start it '24', equivalent to '8' on NGK's heat range scale

http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/graphics/images/plugs/denso/IK01.jpg

[smiley73]

hi boss, is iridium spark plug better in Our bike? wat u feel for the different? cos think of change too..

 

got diff .. can feel the power

[s4vs]

Here..read this..you get a better grasp of things..(I'm using Denso Iridium 27 myself on a PB1 mmuch like Smiley73). In my conclusion...don't expect xtra horsepower but do have a slightly smoother ride, slight FC improvement and the most important to me..don't have to worry about changing plugs too often.

 

Recent advances in fabrication techniques have enabled the use of Iridium - an incredibly hard precious metal, for the construction of spark plug electrodes. Laser technology is used to weld the Iridium tip to spark plugs manufactured by both Denso and NGK. It's worth noting that spark plugs can't increase the potential power that an engine can generate but a more efficient spark will provide more efficient combustion and associated performance and economy benefits. A poor spark from a worn or low grade spark plug will reduce efficiency. An Iridium plug will produce a more efficient spark.

 

http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/graphics/images/densoiridiumtip_t.jpg

Denso Iridium tip - click to enlarge

 

Notable properties of Iridium are its melting point - approximately 2450 degrees C, considerably higher than Platinum, and it's strength - approximately 8 times that of platinum.

 

Advantages of Iridium spark plug types

 

Due to the properties of Iridium, the spark plugs centre electrode can be made with a much smaller diameter than with platinum, Gold or gold palladium and copper/nickel types without sacrificing service life. The spark plugs potential difference is more concentrated at the tiny Iridium tip and hence less 'spark jump' voltage is required - this can be as much as 5,000 volts less than with standard plug types. Ignition is improved and less strain is placed on the ignition system. Benefits of improved ignition/combustion include better fuel economy, increased power/acceleration and especially better throttle response.

 

Very clear infor:thumb: thanks will change one for my Ver S. Btw Ver S use which model for NGK or Denso?

[smiley73]

this plug i think can last about 40K km before another change so i save $$ 2

[Ah Pek]

24 or 27 better

 

If memory serve me well, 24..the higher the digit...the colder the heat range of the plug. So to say..no which one is better..I guess there isn't either..its what you choose your plug heat range for.

 

Colder one is better for continously long ride like staright up KL and the hotter one...for day to day rush hours be great. Due to the longer core for cooling purposes, I guess it has a rough feeling during cold start in the morning and engine has to stay hot to keep up with its effective operating range...other than that..I guess they are all the same once fire up to operating temperature.

 

One odf this day hve to try the NGK Iridium X!

[smiley73]

If memory serve me well, 24..the higher the digit...the colder the heat range of the plug. So to say..no which one is better..I guess there isn't either..its what you choose your plug heat range for.

 

Colder one is better for continously long ride like staright up KL and the hotter one...for day to day rush hours be great. Due to the longer core for cooling purposes, I guess it has a rough feeling during cold start in the morning and engine has to stay hot to keep up with its effective operating range...other than that..I guess they are all the same once fire up to operating temperature.

 

One odf this day hve to try the NGK Iridium X!

 

 

thanks gt it

[Ah Pek]

Btw Ver S use which model for NGK or Denso?

 

For Denso Iridium Power..Its IUH24 or 27 lah...depend on your riding. If you ride day to day rush hour and seldom take long trip..then buy 24 lor. I have both..change only when I have long trip to the other.

 

NGK...is call Iridium X...have yet to see one myself..but same la...the higher the digit, the colder the plug...but better asked the shop people bekuz I might mistaken it the other way round.

[Xdir]

One odf this day hve to try the NGK Iridium X!

 

Any idea how much will it cost?

[manfx]

K thnx for the help. Maybe i'll stick to ngk iridium. Since i had no problem with it.

[Ah Pek]

Any idea how much will it cost?

 

Since manfx has been using it..likely he can answer your question..PM him lor...and let us know too.

[manfx]

i had bought from lab yesterday 48 bucks.

[Ah Pek]

48 bucks

 

Each or a set of 4? Sori have to asked this because the Denso racing is $45 or so a piece...and am not sure what type you have for NGK ones.

[manfx]

me got that ngk iridium IX cr8ehix-9 for $48 for a set of 4.

[Xdir]

Ok, now tat make sense... $48 for 4 so $12 a piece. Hm, do update us on how is the performance once u ve tried it cn?

[Hondaman]

U guys saw the Scorpion Exhaust on Unique thread? Damn Chio. like Bandit like that.

[Xdir]

U guys saw the Scorpion Exhaust on Unique thread? Damn Chio. like Bandit like that.

 

Agree bro. Super nice! Never see it on the road. Tink should b new in sin or juz tat i dnt knw it existed.

R u going to get it on ur bike?

[Hondaman]

this is the Link bro

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181868

 

 

heheh I actually did a ROUGH editing on the Exhaust into my bike. I love the CF but the Rainbow fits just nice.

 

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d23/salleh_/P1050364SCRAIN.jpg

 

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d23/salleh_/P1050364SCCF.jpg

[Marcheline]

Hahahaha~! Great editing work there, bro Hondaman. Read it costs about $700 right?

[Mr_AL]

hello guys, i might be considering joining the non-vtec family but i have a few questions to ask. Firstly, how much would it roughly cost to overhaul the bike namely a project big one. and when i mean overhaul, i mean the works... like its in bad condition...water pump leaking,block leaking.... and where do u think i can get a bagster bra to fit the tank? thanx guys for your insight its really appreciated. and input here or thru pm is greatly appreciated thank you.

[s4vs]

hello guys, i might be considering joining the non-vtec family but i have a few questions to ask. Firstly, how much would it roughly cost to overhaul the bike namely a project big one. and when i mean overhaul, i mean the works... like its in bad condition...water pump leaking,block leaking.... and where do u think i can get a bagster bra to fit the tank? thanx guys for your insight its really appreciated. and input here or thru pm is greatly appreciated thank you.

 

eh.. bro. i not gd in english.. so can ask hor. wat u mean 'might be' non vtec family? u buy the bike liao mah? and if u not yet buy, and u know the bike u going to buy, have engine problem... why u still want to buy? can enlighten me?