[Group] Super Four Non-VTEC Family: PB1 VerR & VerS

[Marcheline]

Be sure to clean up the oil from your tyres properly, Traction aside, the oil will gradually degrade the rubber over time.

[Ah Pek]

u can try n put seat belt for ur pillion seat .. like 1 belt under ur seat at the pillion's area .. wen ur pillion ask him/her tighten the belt so its like impossible to slip ..

 

Not a very bright idea and a REAL BAD one. Go to 219 or aunty or just about anyone and do a seat rewrap with the anti-skip cover sheet. I used to have that..excellent!

 

 

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[tangmulong4488]

Not a very bright idea and a REAL BAD one. Go to 219 or aunty or just about anyone and do a seat rewrap with the anti-skip cover sheet. I used to have that..excellent!

 

 

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i went 219 change to leather, boss say sure wun slip, after change, still same same. $30, damage... at least i got a new rewrap.

[syarif]

Ah Pek, thanks for the guidance few days back. Will keep track of whats going on in the block.

[Ah Pek]

i went 219 change to leather, boss say sure wun slip, after change, still same same. $30, damage... at least i got a new rewrap.

 

Anti-skip is not "leather". Your's is not leather, its PVC material..real leather tat size would cost you at least $200.

 

 

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[Guest akm_inferno]

Haha vibration. That time I went up to 150km/h on ah pek 's eo blend and x1r I don't feel any vibration. The only thing that really scares me is the wind blast. I feel that if I let go I'm going to super fly off the bike.

 

haha.. i know what u mean bro.. last night i go up to 180km/h.. (i bend my body forward..) then when i tried to straighten my back.. my helmet went backwards and came off cuz i nv tie it tight enough.. wah.. really got the shock of my life.. hahaha.. but heng i got atleast tie the thing abit la.. if not i dun noe the helmet will fly where.. hehehe~ BUT surprisingly my exhaust sound much better aft that.. dunnoe y leii..

Edited July 20, 2009 by akm_inferno

[Guest akm_inferno]

a very SPECIAL thanks to "hanxx" bro for helping me get to ah pek's place.. i think if i lazy somemore, dun noe wat will happen to my bike liao..

 

and THANKS U VERY much ah pek bro, for helping me flush the coolant.. i monitor by putting at a clean parking lot.. so far no leaking from the pump area and the radiator place.. but when i got back from yr place right, when i parking my bike, i notice a small splash of bluish coolant on the right side floor.. not sure if from my bike anot leii.. but i park overnight, no stain or bluish coolant under bike.. so everything should be fine right bro? btw way bro.. i forgot to ask u that day, what the name of the plastecine lyk product to fix my coolant cover and where to buy it ar?

 

thanks u very much to all super4 bro and ah pek bro in advance!!

[Ah Pek]

a very SPECIAL thanks to "hanxx" bro for helping me get to ah pek's place.. i think if i lazy somemore, dun noe wat will happen to my bike liao..

 

and THANKS U VERY much ah pek bro, for helping me flush the coolant.. i monitor by putting at a clean parking lot.. so far no leaking from the pump area and the radiator place.. but when i got back from yr place right, when i parking my bike, i notice a small splash of bluish coolant on the right side floor.. not sure if from my bike anot leii.. but i park overnight, no stain or bluish coolant under bike.. so everything should be fine right bro? btw way bro.. i forgot to ask u that day, what the name of the plastecine lyk product to fix my coolant cover and where to buy it ar?

 

thanks u very much to all super4 bro and ah pek bro in advance!!

 

Its a coolant radiator cap...can get from LAB, they are all the same except that his price is very affordable. Tell him its for S4 (allmodel same).

 

 

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[Ianie]

a very SPECIAL thanks to "hanxx" bro for helping me get to ah pek's place.. i think if i lazy somemore, dun noe wat will happen to my bike liao..

 

and THANKS U VERY much ah pek bro, for helping me flush the coolant.. i monitor by putting at a clean parking lot.. so far no leaking from the pump area and the radiator place.. but when i got back from yr place right, when i parking my bike, i notice a small splash of bluish coolant on the right side floor.. not sure if from my bike anot leii.. but i park overnight, no stain or bluish coolant under bike.. so everything should be fine right bro? btw way bro.. i forgot to ask u that day, what the name of the plastecine lyk product to fix my coolant cover and where to buy it ar?

 

thanks u very much to all super4 bro and ah pek bro in advance!!

 

hey bro ur engine block leaking coolant also ah. how long u maintain @ 180?

[hanxx]

hey ah pek,

thanks for washing carb for me,now is better and much more responsive.

 

hopefully,the liqui moly and green oil can help my fc.

shall confirm with you again to do up grounding coming sunday.

have a nice day

[alanbk]

anyway bro. just some advice for you. especially u know nothing about superfour. join us for kopi session sundays. dont get a engine block cracked superfour. esp verison,s very famous for it. u'll have alot of problems. to replace a crack engine block cost $800 for 2nd hand. so u need to becareful bro.

 

ok, will come down to get some tips. thanks

[gearone]

thanks ah pek for the EO change

 

bike now feel smoother and rev up faster as well..keep thinking of whacking the bike home after work but unfortunately traffic a bit heavy so in the end follow behind all the JB bike...heheh

[Ah Pek]

Hi Guys...thought I duplicate this post here that I posted at another thread in case you guys don't visit other threads or same question be asked one day here. Just read for info lah..

 

hey guys, i gt a lame ques not sure did anyone ask this b4...

 

cos vtec s4 n non vtec s4 spocket is diff, vtec use more teeth.. so i was wondering did anyone tried using those spocket like version s 42 teeth to improve the mileage?? cos from wat i read, more teeth drink more fuel...

 

anyone care to ans me? thanks in advance:cheeky:

 

IMHO - Vtec and non Vtec are in a way 'different' (not that far off) as far as gears assembly in the internal crank case is concern..this said, its referring to their gear ratio. The primary gear are of the same number of teeth however the back is different by two. From what I understand, this increment for the Vtecs are that, they are running on the 8 valves under 6k rpm generally where as non Vtecs are all 16 valves under the given same rpm.

 

My take is that the increase in the number of teeth for Vtec is for 'compensation' for more power drive as its power only by eight valve..thus somewhat equates in performance to that of non Vtecs powered by 16 valves in the lower rpm range.

 

The above said, does it improved FC?..guess that should not be the question to asked but rather a gear ratio thingy for the way these two different bike's engine works. But in truth, I believe that this eight valves does not have as much inertial push using 8 valves unless it has a bigger back sprocket for improved momentum prior for each gear changes (all way to 6 under non vtec mode) so that it level in performance overall with its non Vtec counterpart.

 

In short as far as gear ration for these two variation of model, having a 42 teeth on a Vtec would loose on acceleration and does not perform for good FC but it be good at long gear drag to red line and long distance straights for top speed. As for non Vtec, the increment of gears by 2 to make it 44 with a 16 valves operating power house engine, pick up would definitely be greatly increase and reasonably good drags to red line and top end speed on straights. The disadvantage noteable here would be harsh engine braking.

 

Just xtra info..having 45 or 46 teeth for non Vtech, likely overdrive for the first 4 gears out of the 6 would happened unless chain etra slack are use as a 'compensation' to prevent overdrive.

 

The above posted is only my understanding of how logically things works..and why Vtec (8 valves in non vtec mode) has 44 and non Vtec (16 thru out rpm range) has 42.

[xiaobanz]

hey ah pek,

thanks for washing carb for me,now is better and much more responsive.

 

hopefully,the liqui moly and green oil can help my fc.

shall confirm with you again to do up grounding coming sunday.

have a nice day

 

wa seh, so fast using green oil liao.. I haven got the time to try.. Now so busy with studies and work.. going crazy soon liao..

[aaa3237]

Hi Guys...thought I duplicate this post here that I posted at another thread in case you guys don't visit other threads or same question be asked one day here. Just read for info lah..

 

 

 

IMHO - Vtec and non Vtec are in a way 'different' (not that far off) as far as gears assembly in the internal crank case is concern..this said, its referring to......................................

 

Great!!

 

Beside of this, I red a post in a Taiwan forum comparing acceralation and power of stock super4, from best to better: non-vtech > vtech1 > vtech 2 > vtech3. The writer suggesting that cause by stricker and stricker environmental regulation world wide.

 

Donno how true is this. Any one had experience/compare power and acceralation of vtechs and non vtech before?

Beside, I also doubious about how good these environmental changes on the bikes. We know that non-vtech is better in fuel consumption, how come the more environmental friendly vtechs have lower FC ?

Edited July 20, 2009 by aaa3237

[Burnout69]

Great!!

 

Beside of this, I red a post in a Taiwan forum comparing acceralation and power of stock super4, from best to better: non-vtech > vtech1 > vtech 2 > vtech3. The writer suggesting that cause by stricker and stricker environmental regulation world wide.

 

Donno how true is this. Any one had experience/compare power and acceralation of vtechs and non vtech before?

Beside, I also doubious about how good these environmental changes on the bikes. We know that non-vtech is better in fuel consumption, how come the more environmental friendly vtechs have lower FC ?

 

i tink u shud read the earlier posts regarding y vtechs have lower fc.. power wise non vtech have the upper hand.. but at the end of the day.. it depends on the riders knowledge & skills on how he could perform on the bike..

[tangmulong4488]

power all the same, 53bhp.

[hanxx]

wa seh, so fast using green oil liao.. I haven got the time to try.. Now so busy with studies and work.. going crazy soon liao..

 

haha no la havent use la, ah pek recommended.

but so far using liqui moly..green oil after liqui moly done with..

yupp,cya soon ar..been some time since we met at ah pek session.

[aaa3237]

power all the same, 53bhp.

 

The max. power of all Japanese 400cc bike is artificially limited to 53bhp due to a Japanese regulation. Actual power should be around 60bhp, eg., I saw a website somewhere stated GSR400 derestric max. power is 61bhp.

[aaa3237]

i tink u shud read the earlier posts regarding y vtechs have lower fc.. power wise non vtech have the upper hand.. but at the end of the day.. it depends on the riders knowledge & skills on how he could perform on the bike..

 

Riding style play a big part, but the bike itself is more important.

For example, I ride my versionS speed around 90kmh, shift gear around 5k rpm or lower,this help me to get 28km/l FC.

You seen any vtech rider hit 28km/l FC, especially vtech3 one ?

[hanxx]

anyone out there can help?

 

i have a minor problem with my ride.

my bike still produce 'farting' sounds from the pipe while accelerating..meaning acceleration is not smooth.

- even after washing carb

- even when tank is full

 

used to be a smooth ride after carb is washed;only for a day.

what are the possibilities for this problem?

any suggestions/recommendations?

 

THANKS in adv.

[tangmulong4488]

anyone out there can help?

 

i have a minor problem with my ride.

my bike still produce 'farting' sounds from the pipe while accelerating..meaning acceleration is not smooth.

- even after washing carb

- even when tank is full

 

used to be a smooth ride after carb is washed;only for a day.

what are the possibilities for this problem?

any suggestions/recommendations?

 

THANKS in adv.

 

farting mean back fire?

[Ah Pek]

anyone out there can help?

 

i have a minor problem with my ride.

my bike still produce 'farting' sounds from the pipe while accelerating..meaning acceleration is not smooth.

- even after washing carb

- even when tank is full

 

used to be a smooth ride after carb is washed;only for a day.

what are the possibilities for this problem?

any suggestions/recommendations?

 

THANKS in adv.

 

Two things you may want to do..check ur throttle cables (believe your handle bar is not standard) and have grounding done. Note that if the current to the ignition coil (two pieces under ur tank), weak or glitch cut off can cause misfire..oso if the ignition coil (either one) is bad, you have this problem.

 

Farting is usually cause by misfire of spark plug and things on the wet side. If your engine is lean and hot, this misfiring is a loud bang. If you have an end can..may have to have your carbs balanced and air/fuel tuned.

[hanxx]

farting mean back fire?

 

hi,im not sure whats backfire..would you mind explaining?

and are there any harm to it?how would you recommend i deal with it?

thanks.

 

anyway,for me,its like acceleration not smooth..

seemed like something stuck in the pipe and air didnt come out smoothly from pipe.

 

[hanxx]

Two things you may want to do..check ur throttle cables (believe your handle bar is not standard) and have grounding done. Note that if the current to the ignition coil (two pieces under ur tank), weak or glitch cut off can cause misfire..oso if the ignition coil (either one) is bad, you have this problem.

 

Farting is usually cause by misfire of spark plug and things on the wet side. If your engine is lean and hot, this misfiring is a loud bang. If you have an end can..may have to have your carbs balanced and air/fuel tuned.

 

thanks ah pek for the advices.

 

the 'farting' is not loud,but just continuous..

esp at low gear 1 and two when trying to drag..and seemed dragging..

gear 3 and above is fine.