<Discussion> Changi Motorsports Hub - CMH

[Mr Hyde]

The length of the circuit should be between 3.5 km and 10 km.

 

The starting zone must compulsorily be situated on a straight of a minimum

length of 250 m.

The starting line must be located at a minimum distance of 200 m from the first

curve.

 

You're a man of deep-rooted racing knowledge.

[fruitcakepablohoney]

LoL, now is 2010...they even have not awarded the tender.. just talk and talk and talk.

[eyke]

LoL, now is 2010...they even have not awarded the tender.. just talk and talk and talk.

 

they said 1st Q will announce tender results mah,

so we wait a while longer till end of March then see how...

[sibingai]

april maybe???

[tknge]

Lets keep our fingers & toes all cross.......

[yenyenpark]

lol. the mediacorp kept asking about SG circuit even there is not exist until now.. yet talk talk talk..

 

SG used to walk the talk for most of the stuff except.. sport? or motorsport? more talks than walk?? coming to be like the neighbour Malaysia..

[KISS]

lol. the mediacorp kept asking about SG circuit even there is not exist until now.. yet talk talk talk..

 

SG used to walk the talk for most of the stuff except.. sport? or motorsport? more talks than walk?? coming to be like the neighbour Malaysia..

 

Neighbour Malaysia have at least 3 purpose-built track, although the Batu Tiga Shah Alam track is now defunct.

I'm glad I got to ride at all the 3 tracks.

 

Singapore doesn't even have 1 track. You don't count the Thomson Road racing circuit as a track. But if Spore does built a track, I believe it will be much better than the Malaysian ones.

The only question is: Are they open to bikers on most days (as in Pasir Gudang style) or is the rates affordable to bikers?

[GuiNNeSS]

No discussions so far on what it might cost to ride a future Singapore track? I'm sorry if I missed it, but those who frequent PG and Sepang Open Trackdays, where you can pay RM80 to RM 150 for a good time and simply ride off afterwards, will be in for a shock. I do not know what participation model a Singapore track owner will adopt, but I can almost guarantee it will NOT be like PG or even SIC. Although the M'sian tracks are clever enough to indemnify themselves against participant claims, their current costing model leaves them open to costly losses if a motorvehicle injures their officials or causes property damage to the track. PG may not care too much since trackside furniture is either old, inexpensive or non-existent, and officials are never present. But SIC is already waking up to the potential drawbacks of their current participation model.

 

Those of you who think a Singapore track-owner will let his $250 mil facility be damaged for a pitiful entry fee will need to re-think your approach to tracking in Singapore, if and when it arrives. I would think that a track owner/operator will require some form of insurance from participants to cover unexpected costs. This can come from several sources - insurance negotiated by the operator, insurance bought by participants or in the event that no insurance company wants to step in - refundable deposits paid for by rider/driver clubs. The latter may work in our context, where members pay a pooled 4 or 5 figure amount in advance as a refundable deposit, allowing the track operator to take his repair/reinstatement costs from this pooled sum in the event that a member causes damage to the track. The sum will need to be topped-off before a club is allowed to re-book the track. It will be left to the club how it recovers repair costs from its members.

 

Any other thoughts if this is indeed the scenario that will present itself if and when the track is built? Discuss......

[redbeacon]

No discussions so far on what it might cost to ride a future Singapore track? I'm sorry if I missed it, but those who frequent PG and Sepang Open Trackdays, where you can pay RM80 to RM 150 for a good time and simply ride off afterwards, will be in for a shock. I do not know what participation model a Singapore track owner will adopt, but I can almost guarantee it will NOT be like PG or even SIC. Although the M'sian tracks are clever enough to indemnify themselves against participant claims, their current costing model leaves them open to costly losses if a motorvehicle injures their officials or causes property damage to the track. PG may not care too much since trackside furniture is either old, inexpensive or non-existent, and officials are never present. But SIC is already waking up to the potential drawbacks of their current participation model.

 

Those of you who think a Singapore track-owner will let his $250 mil facility be damaged for a pitiful entry fee will need to re-think your approach to tracking in Singapore, if and when it arrives. I would think that a track owner/operator will require some form of insurance from participants to cover unexpected costs. This can come from several sources - insurance negotiated by the operator, insurance bought by participants or in the event that no insurance company wants to step in - refundable deposits paid for by rider/driver clubs. The latter may work in our context, where members pay a pooled 4 or 5 figure amount in advance as a refundable deposit, allowing the track operator to take his repair/reinstatement costs from this pooled sum in the event that a member causes damage to the track. The sum will need to be topped-off before a club is allowed to re-book the track. It will be left to the club how it recovers repair costs from its members.

 

Any other thoughts if this is indeed the scenario that will present itself if and when the track is built? Discuss......

I have pondered about this topic and I agree with you.

 

There will be a high chance (although it's too early to say) that we will see very infrequent "track day" events that are probably a few hundred dollars to participate per person. They may stress the importance of insurance, medical facilities, marshalls, track amenities....all those stuff that a fully-fledged track event in an International Formula 1 track has. Just like how other countries' F1 racetracks do it.

 

All these years of allowing frequent open tracktime events, I wonder how Sepang keeps its track so, um...for the lack of a better word...silky smooth

[GuiNNeSS]

.......

 

All these years of allowing frequent open tracktime events, I wonder how Sepang keeps its track so, um...for the lack of a better word...silky smooth

 

 

I suppose hosting MotoGP and F1 means that Sepang has deep pockets from TV rights etc., and holding on to these must keep them on their toes.

 

But SIC also has a healthy objective to nurture Malaysia's future motorsports stars, and they have no qualms about parting with money to support the very best ones all the way to the top rung of their chosen motorsports fields. Witness this year's 125cc MotoGP field, with one Malaysian rider bankrolled by Air Asia, SIC and others.

[black_phoenix]

SG Changi wins the right to build the Changi Motorsports Hub??!!! So, there'll be a race track in SG afterall!!!!

[rhema83]

SG Changi wins the right to build the Changi Motorsports Hub??!!! So, there'll be a race track in SG afterall!!!!

I heard the news on the radio on my way home. SG Changi was the successful bidder out of three companies. The track is going to be 4 km long and will be completed by end of 2011.

 

Which means, by the time the entry price settles and the track is open to the average rider like you and me, it will be mid-2012. Let's wait and see.

[wanaero]

wah 4km means the F1 can go there liao.. Make people trouble only do at town.. haha

[Seven]

:cheer:

[eyke]

The track is going to be 4 km long

 

only 3.7km long, not 4km.

 

http://www.ssc.gov.sg/publish/Corporate/en/news/media_releases/2010/SG_CHANGI_WINS_BID_FOR_CHANGI_MOTORSPORTS_HUB.html

[ongsujie]

wah 4km means the F1 can go there liao.. Make people trouble only do at town.. haha

 

No,not for F1. Its still grade 2 circuit only.

 

Anyway glad to hear this news!!

[danielsin2]

I heard the news on the radio on my way home. SG Changi was the successful bidder out of three companies. The track is going to be 4 km long and will be completed by end of 2011.

 

Which means, by the time the entry price settles and the track is open to the average rider like you and me, it will be mid-2012. Let's wait and see.

 

only 3.7km long, not 4km.

 

http://www.ssc.gov.sg/publish/Corporate/en/news/media_releases/2010/SG_CHANGI_WINS_BID_FOR_CHANGI_MOTORSPORTS_HUB.html

 

 

CNA says its a 4KM track, the previous proposal was a 3.7KM track.

 

 

 

The centrepiece is a four-kilometre track, which is longer than the current 3.7-kilometre one, and is good enough to meet FIA requirements.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1046079/1/.html

[prasad]

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1046079/1/.html

updated info on the sg track

[AkalaPovic]

I heard the news on the radio on my way home. SG Changi was the successful bidder out of three companies. The track is going to be 4 km long and will be completed by end of 2011.

 

Which means, by the time the entry price settles and the track is open to the average rider like you and me, it will be mid-2012. Let's wait and see.

 

Thought u retire with ur k4 liao lol still wan wait for the track ah

[rhema83]

Thought u retire with ur k4 liao lol still wan wait for the track ah

If it is affordable, I will give it a shot. It won't cost that much to get a used supersport and do it up. I don't think my skill level is high enough to handle a 1000 at full throttle anyway, and the recent crops of 600s have been stellar.

 

But until the tarmac is ready for the rubber, this is all talk only. Just like the MediaCorp people bugging MotoGP boss before its tender close. So Uniquely Singapore!

[MC28]

It's FIM Grade 1 which means can host MotoGP but only FIA Grade 2...

[cagiva03]

If confirm already, i'll shall be back in action! Roland we cannot be the fastest, but lets be among the "first" to use our rubber on the tarmac!

[MC28]

If confirm already, i'll shall be back in action! Roland we cannot be the fastest, but lets be among the "first" to use our rubber on the tarmac!

 

I selling off my bike around Sept this year lehx..Probably heading for something small in the meanwhile..

 

Probably heading into photography already...Take pic for u when it's open...

Edited March 29, 2010 by MC28

[The Frog]

CNA says its a 4KM track, the previous proposal was a 3.7KM track.

 

 

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1046079/1/.html[/center]

 

Guys,

 

Doesn't matter how long is the track.

 

The whole idea if F1 coming to Spore is to have a night street race. Our PM wanted to sell the our Spore night scence to the International.

 

So the agreement was F1 will not be in a track even if we have a track. And by the time we complete the track, we may not have the F1 night race anymore. We are only hosting it for 4 or 5 yrs, after which is all about $$$ again if Spore want to do it.

 

Cheers!

[Coolman]

Like tis news. so can public ride on it or jus 4 GP or F1?