Product : Engine Oil Discussion

[stsoh]

anyone try these b4.

TOTAL motorcycle engine oil sold at carrefour for less S$5/btl.

i know it is cheap oil.

many will say cheapsake oil is poor performance n lousy.

hearsay only, anyone actually use this say otherwise.

of course not on performance 1litre bike but on cheap 2b bikes.

these r not full synthetic but definitely should be on par with semi-syn n hydrocrack stuff.

they also have mineral oil, with label as "MCO".

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=3494026/TOTAL.jpg

[darren_soh86]

stsoh:

 

hey bro.. i am using these on my Fireblade 400.. so far nutting much la.. performs juz like regular oil.. juz that now i am running 1600KM from the oil change alradi.. and i sumtimes experience not so smooth gear changes.. thats all..

 

i believe although its cheap.. its on par with the regular semi-syn u can find in the market.. i will try another semi syn on my next oil change n update on my findings.. probably gg to try Shell VSX 4T from JB..

[stsoh]

thanks 4 the info.

i believe the quality is the same as any semi-syn oil @ half price.

[mnemonic]

No one tried using BP Vistra???

[ET]

try motul double ester, very very smooth..~

[uberstore]

Dear All,

 

Please do give Amsoil Synthetic Oil a Shot.

 

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[chrislayer]

how much and where to get?

[stonecold]

Can someone pls point me to the right direction where I can get Esso 4T at a good price? Appreciate it, thanks.

[Gixxer Boyz]

Esso and Mobil are the same company. Can try the Mobil 1 Racing 4T full syn for motorcycles. They had offer last month at $18 per lit + free gifts, normal price at $22 per lit. While stocks last, it's at Bt Merah Mobil petrol station.

[uberstore]

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Get your Amsoil Synthetic Oil at

 

Racewerkz

 

Blk 1005 #01-18

Bukit Merah Lane 2

 

Tel : 6273 2203

 

And Magic MotorWerx at Toa Payoh

 

Tel : 635 1792

 

 

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[Khuboy]

was wondering which 4T is better for engine performance?

pls share...

[jytheorem]

guess is bike dependant..

As for me, its Maxima 5w50.

[FrdAuZ]

i use motul 15 50 one

[d3an_cain]

bro, motul brand, whereu getit from?hardly got shop bring that EO 2the shop

[rweyen]

No prob, Can get it at HKL, motoworld and jln besar area shud have. make sure look out for price competitive. Motul is great stuff. no joke!

[ANR Impex]

Originally posted by rweyen@January 30, 2007 10:10 pm

No prob, Can get it at HKL, motoworld and jln besar area shud have. make sure look out for price competitive. Motul is great stuff. no joke!

Check out some of the comments here. Many compare Maxima products favourably against the best brands, including Silkolene and Motul. Maxima Ultra also uses an exclusive polyol ester base not found in Motul products until early last year. Maxima is ahead of the competition (including big budget advertisers like Motul) in bringing the best 4T technology to end users.

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/index....showtopic=77191

[sharif faizal]

Originally posted by ashenZ@August 06, 2004 01:23 pm

hmmz royal purple heard not bad.. any comments??

Do u know where to get royal purple?

[carbine]

wad oil to recommend for gsxr 1000 ?

[stsoh]

Originally posted by sharif faizal@February 05, 2007 09:04 am

Do u know where to get royal purple?

i think u can get it at tanjong pagar plaza blk.2, #02-20. it's an electrical retail shop. they have motor (for car use) oil on display, ask for max-cycle.

[skirtchaser]

used maxum synblend for my kr for the first time n i find my gear tend to go neutral frequently when i kick up the lever for 2nd gear...didnt happened too much before but its getting worse.

[Kaoiwas]

Motorex reduced my engine brake. Helps alot for quick downshifting before corners/turns.

[Nighthawk_250]

Here is my Personal, Un-scientific layman feedback on engine oil i've used.

 

(ROYAL PURPLE)

 

I used royal purple for long time, its still the smoothest and most silent for my air-cool cb250. Gear shift also very SUPER smooth. Rode to mersing and back on this e.o. it thin out after several week from the trip.

 

(MAXIMA)

 

PAst months tried syn maxima and also the semi syn. Its the most lasting engine oil ive ever used to date. Seems like it never thin out. And the engine heat around my leg ma-jiam no more Its just not as "smooth" as royal purple in terms of gear change. But the engine oil make you feel like you just change oil every time u start-your-engine" lol i rode to phuket n back on this e.o.

 

(AMSOIl)

 

Akan datang Looks damn good in specs and charts on the testing done.

 

Going to try it and post up here.

[ANR Impex]

Originally posted by Nighthawk_250@February 14, 2007 11:21 am

Here is my Personal, Un-scientific layman feedback on engine oil i've used.

 

(ROYAL PURPLE)

 

I used royal purple for long time, its still the smoothest and most silent for my air-cool cb250. Gear shift also very SUPER smooth. Rode to mersing and back on this e.o. it thin out after several week from the trip.

 

(MAXIMA)

 

PAst months tried syn maxima and also the semi syn. Its the most lasting engine oil ive ever used to date. Seems like it never thin out. And the engine heat around my leg ma-jiam no more Its just not as "smooth" as royal purple in terms of gear change. But the engine oil make you feel like you just change oil every time u start-your-engine" lol i rode to phuket n back on this e.o.

 

(AMSOIl)

 

Akan datang Looks damn good in specs and charts on the testing done.

 

Going to try it and post up here.

Maybe the 'smoothness' is from using a thinner grade. As you know, Maxima oil have extremely good shear resistance, but you need to find the right grade or you'll never hit the viscosity sweetspot unlike normal oils. The downside is that you need to know your bike better, the upside is that the oil really performs from 0km till it time to change.

 

I have worked with some similar model groups to narrow down their viscosity requirements, their initial disappointment with Maxima (wrong visc) becomes a once they understood the right viscosity to use.

 

Amsoil specs sure look good, but it funny that they like to make unfair comparisons. The Maxima product they used to compare to their fully syn is actually the semi synthetic Maxum4 SynBlend. Note how close in performance the Synblend comes, I can only wonder how much better the Extra or the Ultra will stack up.

[Nighthawk_250]

Originally posted by ANR Impex@February 16, 2007 12:35 am

Maybe the 'smoothness' is from using a thinner grade. As you know, Maxima oil have extremely good shear resistance, but you need to find the right grade or you'll never hit the viscosity sweetspot unlike normal oils. The downside is that you need to know your bike better, the upside is that the oil really performs from 0km till it time to change.

 

I have worked with some similar model groups to narrow down their viscosity requirements, their initial disappointment with Maxima (wrong visc) becomes a once they understood the right viscosity to use.

 

Amsoil specs sure look good, but it funny that they like to make unfair comparisons. The Maxima product they used to compare to their fully syn is actually the semi synthetic Maxum4 SynBlend. Note how close in performance the Synblend comes, I can only wonder how much better the Extra or the Ultra will stack up.

hey dude, tks for the input.

 

More layman feedback:-

 

I have tried both the maxima grade but neither give the same immediate smoothness of royal purple. The "funniest" part was when I first time switch to maxima from R.purple. I was expecting a very smooth gear change and especially downshift into neutral gear; which has always been a tad "hard to find" for my old bike. This happens to most of the old bike I own.

 

Well, nothing happen. Gear change was still not smooth as Im used to with R.purple. In fact getting into neutral gear was just as difficult. I was disappointed and change back to R purple after only a few rides.

 

I keep wondering if R.purple added some "love potion" aka special lub like "motor uP" into their blend

 

Anyway, I eventually got back to trying maxima syn and full syn again because I keep reading all the stuffs you put in forum about maxima quality & viscosity and stuffs; I was a bit convince my first try was "something wrong".

 

I bought all my maximas e.o. from AH Khoon, and each time I feecback to him about it and the royal purple difference.

 

Give and take, I'd like to use R purple for my bike ride in spore, and change to maxima when I go for ride up north.

 

 

As for Amsoil, Im just going to use the "can catch mouse mean good cat" attitude; but the comparison with semi syn is really hmm.....how can lidat..

 

Cheers!

[ANR Impex]

Ah Koon only carry the thicker grades, Extra 15W50 or Synblend 20W50. Since the RP thins fast, I am referring to the thinner grades. Ultra 5W50 for example. Maybe you try that next time, but you won't find it at Ah Koon at the moment, it can be arranged.

 

Gear shifting performance for Maxima is second to none once you find the right viscosity. In your case, you're not really varying the viscosity much in the correct direction, which is thinner. Besides, all cycle oils have a minimum level of friction for the wet clutch, race oils like Maxima will be right at limits. They cannot go below JASO MA specs for friction, if not there will be clutch slip issues.

 

Which RP are you using? I can have a better estimate. I have even blended the oil to a specific operating viscosity for users in the past, they understood my point once they felt the effect. Btw, an oil that thins fast is not desirable, it shows the weakness of the base oil and how it degrades in physical properties, and it affects its ability to function as a lubricant.