I need your help to find a bike.

[lfcskull22]

Hello everyone,

 

I am soon to take my 2B licence and i am just wondering what bike to get in the future because i need to go and shortlist the bikes all.

 

The problem that i have is that i am abit tall and also abit big size. I am 185cm in height. I am just thinking what bike would suit me and i would greatly appreciate your views.

 

What i am looking for in a 2B bike is that it is not expensive and hopefully it is at least nice looking.

 

Why i am doing this is because i dont want to be like this huge guy squatting on this tiny bike trying to reach for the gears and ride around letting the whole of singapore to be laughing in my face. hehehe

 

I really hope you'll help me out on this.

 

Thank you very much

[eedwinn]

Guess you'll have to see what criteria is more important to you. Is it the cost of maintenance, the looks, or the fuel consumption and stuffs like that?

 

2B bikes are generally not that expensive as compared to the rest of the classes. You mentioned nice looking, I can only tell you sportsbikes are the most nice looking, but of course the cost of it is the highest amoung the different types of bikes.

 

Good luck!

[mdarto]

From what you had said, you dont want to be a huge guy squatting on a small bike means Kups are out for you. Given your height, i think its very perfect for you to ride a scrambler.

 

Sportsbike may still be desirable for you althought sports FC and maintenance are kinda high.

 

Normal road bikes like the Yamaha YBR and the RXZ might be good as the FC is low and maintenance of the bike is generally cheap.

 

Its still comes down to what hellmurderer said, see what criteria is more important to you.

[lfcskull22]

hei guys,

 

thanks for sharing your views so far, i like sportbikes but i hear that it is generally low in height i am just wondering wat models would suit me.

 

i like scramblers but ppl have said that the road holding is not that good as compared to other road or sportbikes.

 

wat do u think abt this and wat models of bikes should be good.

[Murinus]

probably can consider the varadero 125

[prego08220]

Wr200 or KTM200

[lfcskull22]

but varadero 125 very ex rite but i dont know much abt the wr200 and ktm200.

[DeusExMachina]

hei guys,

 

thanks for sharing your views so far, i like sportbikes but i hear that it is generally low in height i am just wondering wat models would suit me.

 

i like scramblers but ppl have said that the road holding is not that good as compared to other road or sportbikes.

 

wat do u think abt this and wat models of bikes should be good.

 

2B sportbikes are generally tiny in size (NSR150SP, KRR150, TZM150), except maybe for the 2 Italian ones (Aprilia RS125 and Cagiva Mito) which are slightly larger with taller seats and are closer to 2A bikes, size wise. Better for taller/larger ppl like yourself.

 

Downside to the Italians is that they generally need more attention, maintenance wise. Parts may cost more too. If you're buying a used bike, you'll also have to inspect it closely to see if the last owner maintained it well.... or you may be buying a trouble-ridden junk heap.

 

Not to say that an Italian bike is expensive to maintain under normal circumstances. Same one bottle of engine oil, same single spark plug. But it's just that you have to treat it with more.... love.

 

 

Having owned an RS125, I can say that the experience is a lot diff from owning a Jap 2B bike. The Italian bike feels more planted anytime.

[lfcskull22]

Thanks DeusExMachina. you explain the stuff well.

 

i am thinking of a second hand rs125 but my friend said that it is expensive to maintain and also it is expensive to buy.

 

but i like the bike very much. it looks damn cool too. the tank is nice size and the bike is not only higher than most other 2B bikes but it is broader too.

 

but am curious to know if it is recommended for a learner to get an italian machine because i get alot of mixed reviews.

[BrOkEn]

Hey lfcskull22, in my opinion, if your budget permits, you should really get something that you like. At the end of the day, it's your ride, and you'll be the one riding it. Why care about what other people think? As long as you're comfortable riding the bike, and you really like it, it will serve you well.

 

For the Italian Class 2B Sportsbike, like the RS125 & Mito, money really comes into play for the 2 bikes. First, the machine price is usually higher than the Japanese 2B Sportsbikes. Second, as what DeusExMachina has said, the cost of maintenance is high too. So if you can really afford it, have the passion for Italian bikes, or if you're intending to ride the bike for long, by all means get it. But if you're looking to upgrade in a years time after you get your 2A, maybe a SP or KRR will do. Save up the money for a bigger bike.

 

Hope this helps you in your search! See you on the road soon!

[salvatron]

hmm.. i tot SP and KRR are made in thailand? how come got japanese 2b sportsbike? lol

[Davin]

hmm.. i tot SP and KRR are made in thailand? how come got japanese 2b sportsbike? lol

 

You are right but you are sure missing out something....both SP and KRR are made in Thailand but still Honda and Kawasaki are Japan products, just due to the cost of production thats why the setup a factory in Thailand...it doesn't matter where the bikes are produce but which country owned the brand of the bike...

[DeusExMachina]

Thanks DeusExMachina. you explain the stuff well.

 

i am thinking of a second hand rs125 but my friend said that it is expensive to maintain and also it is expensive to buy.

 

but i like the bike very much. it looks damn cool too. the tank is nice size and the bike is not only higher than most other 2B bikes but it is broader too.

 

but am curious to know if it is recommended for a learner to get an italian machine because i get alot of mixed reviews.

 

 

Don't get a new one. Not worth it.

 

If you can find a used one in GOOD condition, then it'll be OK.

 

Go here to ask more:

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71802

 

Maintenance wise... like I said... it's the same as any 2B bike. One plug, one bottle EO. And the regular 2T top up. Cost the same to maintain.

 

The difference is that, if you don't maintain it well and it starts to break down, then the parts will cost you an arm and leg. For the RS125, one of the thing that needs attention (and could be an irritation) is the powervalve unit. It's a guillotine design, unlike the RC valve found on the Jappos. It jams a little easier if you don't whack the bike (open valve) enough. So, whack it a bit from time to time... but not all the time either. Cleaning the powervalve can also be a DIY affair if you know how to take the fairing off and the tank up. For more info on this, ask the Aprilia guys.

 

Riding-wise, it's no more powerful than the other Jap 2B bikes. It's a bit heavier, it has 25cc less, so going by math, it will not pick-up as quickly as the Japs. But what you will have is better cornering stability. Thicker USD forks, more rigid frame, wider tyres, all amounts to better stability and a more planted feel.

[myxilplix]

My first bike was a mito, and i'm 1.9m. It was alright, got used to the size of the bike. But yeah like what DeusEx says, you've gotta treat them with love. I knew that parts would cost more, but had disposable income to maintain the bike. If you want an italian bike you'd better do research on them and know what to look out for.

 

My gf's first bike was an '05 RS125, so i've had plenty of seat time with both the mito and rs125. The rs is a little more comfy for me, maybe because of the better wind protection from the front fairing. Geometry-wise the rs125 is also more flickable.

[Lass]

i think scramblers or motards suit taller ppl pretty well.

[jia_yvon]

hmm.. i tot SP and KRR are made in thailand? how come got japanese 2b sportsbike? lol

 

walao eh thai made but JAPANESE technology wat.... same goes to toyota altis.. made in THAI but still jap car..

[lfcskull22]

Thanks guys.

 

wah, i read all your replies, i rally cannot wait to get 2B sia. but the money factor is the thing holding me back for now. sian.

 

i really really like the rs125 man. the tank damn big and it is comfy for me too but i have nvr sat on it as a pilion to experiance the feel of it.

other bikes got sit b4 but have ridden a bike twice only because the rest of them dont trust a guy with no licence to ride it. hahahaha (cant blame them though)

 

the thailand made stuff i think is still jap la, as long the engine is jap can trust 1 la. hehehe

[lfcskull22]

i think BrOkEn is right, i must like the bike first but still like i very kan chiong because i dont want to get i bike i like then in the end realise that the bike got alot of probs or worst still that it is a junk. hahahaha

 

[lfcskull22]

a friend of mine told me that i should keep the 2B bike till i get my dream R1. becuase he said that if i change to a 2A bike after 1 year than change again to class 2 bike a year later is waste of money.

 

wat do your think and how did youll go ahead with the transition from class 2B to class 2. please share guys

 

thanks

[mdarto]

For me, if i were to change to class 2, i wouldnt buy a class 2a bike at all cos all you have to do is buy a class 2B bike, ride it for 2 years and then change to to a class 2 bike. It saves alot of money this way. But If you want to ride all three classes of bikes. I recommend you get a 2nd hand cheap 2B bike, then change to a 2nd hand S4 then finally a 1st hand class 2 bike.

[apitBIOL]

i think what most guys do is to actually enrol first and when u are nearing ur TP test date den u shud think of a suitable bike for urself...cos thinking about it now oso no use..

[lfcskull22]

i think what most guys do is to actually enrol first and when u are nearing ur TP test date den u shud think of a suitable bike for urself...cos thinking about it now oso no use..

 

 

 

y i am thinking abt it now is because so i got a rough idea of how much it will cost then can save up to it.

 

i not rich leh. so thats y.

 

at least i will have an idea of wat i will be getting and then can try to save up to it.

 

[royston87]

bro... for my suggestion.. go for wad suits your finance more thn liking.. i got my fs plate de sp.. i got chopped.. nvm the condition still nt bad.. but tis 2 mths n following i'll b struggling.. change piston, fork cone, battery, lights, tire, full service, etc.. so xiong.. haha but trust me if u haf passion u dun mind b like me eat bread de.. u can onli choose finance or likes.. gd luk on da road..

[tanchunxun]

get dirtbike cos u very tall.. will look nicer on u.. =)

[lfcskull22]

bro... for my suggestion.. go for wad suits your finance more thn liking.. i got my fs plate de sp.. i got chopped.. nvm the condition still nt bad.. but tis 2 mths n following i'll b struggling.. change piston, fork cone, battery, lights, tire, full service, etc.. so xiong.. haha but trust me if u haf passion u dun mind b like me eat bread de.. u can onli choose finance or likes.. gd luk on da road..

 

 

 

ya, wat u said is true, but the scary part is wat if i suddenly cannot afford, wah sian. then if one by one the things fall apart like now your case then wah sebei xiong. poor u sia bro

 

i also thinking if get 2nd hand then how, normally, the owners b4 selling the bike will nice nice hantam the bike then sell lor. i know a few friends like that too.

 

damn bad right.

 

but thanks man