Ask the EXPERTS..

[Jack_Blade26]

Hi guys.. I started this thread for those who have questions for our local racer or expert..

 

Just direct your Q directly to whoever u need the answer from..

 

Example :-

 

To Charn,

 

Wats is ur preffered tyre pressure on track and why?

 

No offence to anyone but most of the time questions or doubts are not given the appropriate answer.. Or shall i say replied by a racer wannabe like me..

 

It is also intended to gather all the post in ONE thread as again, most of the time same Q is asked in different threads..

 

So its best you state the name of whoever u deemed fit to answer your question..

 

Anything about bike and riding.. Racing license and stuff like dat is also included..

 

So lets all keep this thread alive with all the questions u need to knoe to clear ur head..

 

Ok to start with i have a Question..

 

To Amba,

 

In other thread u did mentioned dat u recently upgrade your suspension to PENSKE rear and also front fork internal at BIKELAB..

 

How much does it cost u?

 

How is the riding feel after u upgrade it?

 

Does your laptime improve after upgrade?

 

Thanks and hope dat u cud answer it so others cud also understand it..

 

Cheers,

 

Jack Lim

[NoLogicOne]

Your question to Charn. He's been asked a lot of times, help him answer you a bit

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2453916&postcount=19

[Jack_Blade26]

Your question to Charn. He's been asked a lot of times, help him answer you a bit

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2453916&postcount=19

 

Errrrrr.. Bro NoLogicOne.. Dat Q for Charn is just an EXAMPLE lah..

 

My Q is for AMBA bro..

 

Hope u read it again..

 

Cheers..

[redbeacon]

( -- question answered in another thread -- )

[ambasnakeman]

To Amba,

 

In other thread u did mentioned dat u recently upgrade your suspension to PENSKE rear and also front fork internal at BIKELAB..

 

How much does it cost u?

 

How is the riding feel after u upgrade it?

 

Does your laptime improve after upgrade?

 

Thanks and hope dat u cud answer it so others cud also understand it..

 

Cheers,

 

Jack Lim

 

1) cost about 4k

2) as some of u know, i recently came back from a crash.....and my braking markers are at least 50m off every turn.....and yet....i managed a 1.44 in pg.

3) definitely improves lap time. not necessarily penske or traxxion. could be ohlins, bitubo or elka. what matters is support. after market suspension travel and absorb better, allowing u to brake deep, hold lines better, and exit at power at a very early point of a turn. properly tuned, they reduce tyre wear as well.

[NoLogicOne]

Errrrrr.. Bro NoLogicOne.. Dat Q for Charn is just an EXAMPLE lah..

 

My Q is for AMBA bro..

 

Hope u read it again..

 

Cheers..

 

Oops...I did it again Apologies!!! *making way for experts*

[daigo34]

2) as some of u know, i recently came back from a crash.....and my braking markers are at least 50m off every turn.....and yet....i managed a 1.44 in pg.

 

 

wow !tats was fast:cheeky:

[Jack_Blade26]

Amba,

 

Wah u do 1:44 at pg after spending $4k and i believe u did not push coz u just came back from big crash..

 

Wats is your best time at pg on the R6 before u had your big crash?

 

Wat i would like to knoe is will all the spending of $4k to just upgrade suspension makes us improve our personal best timing?

[ambasnakeman]

my personal best is 1.43 but machine is completely stock.

how the suspensions helped the most was, less shakiness.....never encountered a single slide doing 1.44. so u pretty much eliminate other factors which u take in to consideration. to add, there was no damper.

 

it not just improves timing, but lets u improve ur riding better as well....can definetly carry more corner speed.

 

for a start can try investing on rear shock first.....then front....best would be to change both la....then can get discount

[singkiwi]

Attn any expert,

My question has to do with weighting on pegs, and what's the theory behind this. I believe you re supposed to weight the outside peg? I think this will have two effects,

1, to stand the bike up

2, to push you further off the bike on the inside

 

can anyone discuss this?

 

thanks

[Hartholomew]

Attn any expert,

My question has to do with weighting on pegs, and what's the theory behind this. I believe you re supposed to weight the outside peg? I think this will have two effects,

1, to stand the bike up

2, to push you further off the bike on the inside

 

can anyone discuss this?

 

thanks

 

 

Hey Singkiwi,

 

Weighting the outside peg comes from Trials riding and was applied to racing by many famous racers like Kevin Schwantz.

 

Trials riders encounter many differing surfaces, which many a time, are far from flat and varied widely in surfaces. What they used to do was use strength to force some weight/pressure on to the part of the tyre that they needed grip from.

 

Eg: The left side of the tyre since they were sideways on a downslope.

 

Weighting the outside peg creates more grip on the rear when you lean the bike over. Take a look at MotoGP photos and you will be able to see that 99% of riders have the arch of their feet on the outside peg, putting weight on the outside by using physical strength, while using body weight to shift the center of mass of the bike inside the corner.

 

I remember reading a review from some magazine about the launch of a ZX9. The guest test rider was one of the legends and was power sliding the bike around, while the Magazine test riders were put off by the lack of grip of the OEM tryes.

When they asked him how he did that, (Power Sliding was the stuff of Gods at the time, nowadays almost all of us do it accidentally every now & then) he said that since the tyres had no grip, he weighted the inside peg, letting them slide out of the corner and used the outside peg to make it "hook up" once he needed more traction.

 

Mind you, easier said than done.

 

Cheers,

 

Hartholomew Mamola

[Jack_Blade26]

To Amba

 

Thks for the info.. I think i might just start investing the rear shock 1st as u advised..

 

To Hartholomew,

 

Are u also one of the regulars racing at Sepang?

[NoLogicOne]

To Amba

 

Thks for the info.. I think i might just start investing the rear shock 1st as u advised..

 

To Hartholomew,

 

Are u also one of the regulars racing at Sepang?

 

Hart's racing nick is very well disguised.... Yup, he's one of those guys up at Sepang.

[NoLogicOne]

Hey Singkiwi,

 

Weighting the outside peg comes from Trials riding and was applied to racing by many famous racers like Kevin Schwantz.

 

Trials riders encounter many differing surfaces, which many a time, are far from flat and varied widely in surfaces. What they used to do was use strength to force some weight/pressure on to the part of the tyre that they needed grip from.

 

Eg: The left side of the tyre since they were sideways on a downslope.

 

Weighting the outside peg creates more grip on the rear when you lean the bike over. Take a look at MotoGP photos and you will be able to see that 99% of riders have the arch of their feet on the outside peg, putting weight on the outside by using physical strength, while using body weight to shift the center of mass of the bike inside the corner.

 

I remember reading a review from some magazine about the launch of a ZX9. The guest test rider was one of the legends and was power sliding the bike around, while the Magazine test riders were put off by the lack of grip of the OEM tryes.

When they asked him how he did that, (Power Sliding was the stuff of Gods at the time, nowadays almost all of us do it accidentally every now & then) he said that since the tyres had no grip, he weighted the inside peg, letting them slide out of the corner and used the outside peg to make it "hook up" once he needed more traction.

 

Mind you, easier said than done.

 

Cheers,

 

Hartholomew Mamola

 

Bro, I always wonder how you guys weigh the outside peg when the whole body is hang off towards the inside? Or is this the reason why some racers would hang out before a turn butt out first, but shifting the ball of the inside foot onto the peg and the rest of the upper torso just before the turn? I keep seeing Dani and Stoner keep doing that especially after a high speed blast down the straights before a turn.

 

I must be doing something very wrong then cuz when I turn in, my outside foot is not even steeping much on the foot peg, much less to say weigh the outside peg. Or I should place an order for longer legs?

 

And how does one uses the rear brake on the tracks? Some said using the rear brake helps you get back on line if you run wide, which is logical cuz I guess you slow down the corner speed. But how does one use the rear brake in a right turn when your ball of your foot is on the peg? Isn't moving the right foot gonna upset the bike when it's already lean in?

 

Thanks!

[myxilplix]

Charn told me to weigh the inner peg when turning in to help the bike turn-in faster, then in mid-corner to weigh the outer peg to give the rear more traction for the exit drive.

 

I try my best to do it, but don't think i'm doing it very well at all.

[L.I.B]

Yea, in theory, it all seems to be in order. But true enough, for myself, it seems to be an ultra difficult thingy to do...

 

Like weighin da outside peg wen exiting, wen da bike's powerin out of da corner, im practically pullin maself onto da saddle...

[ambasnakeman]

its easier to power out when the bike is upright then at lean angles as there is a risk of sliding out. weighin the outer pegs helps the posture of the bike.

 

try riding in the rain if there is opprtunity. you can really feel the difference in weighing the outer pegs.

[Raptor]

How do you practice for late braking into corners?

[Jack_Blade26]

Hart's racing nick is very well disguised.... Yup, he's one of those guys up at Sepang.

 

Bro NoLoginOne,

 

I browse thru other website for Singaporean racers but i cant find Hart's name lei.. Wat is his real name? i believe Hartholomew is just a nick name here rite..

 

Btw having talk bout this, i understand that there will be Singaporean racing during Motogp weekend at Sepang.. Who are these people?? Wat bike they ride??

 

I only knoe Amba ride R6 with no.46 coz i saw his bike i-motoring few mths back..

 

Sorry for asking too much.. I go SMSA website never say anything about our guys racing in Sepang Motogp.. Every year i go sepang and when i watch the race i donno who is who.. All i can see is the bike make and model..

 

Hope someone can give more details of our Singaporean riders so we can all give our support when we were there.. Afterall majority spectator are from Singapore..

[slider]

Ya man i agree with Jack. Someone please give us list of Sg riders that will be racing in Sepang on 19-21 Oct 2007.. If possible Name, Bike No., Bike Model.. I only know a few but i believe there is more and heard that arnd 20 riders total..

[slider]

Last issue of our STUPID MCA magazine does not give details of our Singapore Rider..

[ambasnakeman]

How do you practice for late braking into corners?

 

i belief trail braking is something good to learn first.

 

u brake at 100% upright....entering first 1/3 of corner....carry about 60% brakes.

 

gives u the confidence to use brakes when cornering.

 

then try to push braking marker by 10 to 20 metres at a time....remember, u brake later, the approaching speed could be more as well...depending on the kind of turn.

 

always be prepared to run wide when attempting to push brake markers.

 

based on PG turn 1, when u couldnt brake in time, some riders straight away upright the bike, jam both brakes before hit gravel. dun ever continue to jam brakes when travelling on gravel. u WILL fall.

 

the experience riders, when run wide will simply alter and take a wider line throughout the turn(makes sense). this is how the GP pros are doing it as well. rossi is very good at altering his lines during a race.

[kingpet47]

who holds the fastest timing for PG n wat was the timing?

 

i mean for our local racers.... coz i know record fastest is still m.doohan.

[ambasnakeman]

there is a thread which one of the forumers took the liberty to update....includes official times and self confessed times. for some reasons, people stopped updating.

 

i think that was good to be updated as u can know where u stand and who to pace

[rein_jahat14]

U can get this from http://www.malaysiangp.com.my/motorsports/superseries/2007/standings_bikes.html

 

The one in coloured Singaporean riders..

 

Super Sports Open

No. Comp.

No. Name Team Bike Rd

1 Rd

2 Rd

3 Rd

4 Rd

5 Total

1 12 Preetham Moses Yamaha R6 32 41 50 123

2 6 Nils Uchida Zakariassen Chia Motoracing P.J Yamaha R6 45 36 29 110

3 3 Dillip Rogger Chia Motoracing P.J Kawasaki ZX6R 45 0 20 65

4 27 Massimo Nanni Yamaha R6 13 45 0 58

5 41 Karl de Souza Chia Motoracing P.J Yamaha R6 24 26 0 50

6 31 Kok Chun Chiat (Junjie) Team Bikelab Traxxion Yamaha R6 0 0 29 29

7 77 Lee Jones Yamaha R6 0 22 0 22

8 53 Ari Nassi Kawasaki ZX6R 0 0 22 22

9 46 R. Ambavalavanan (ambasnakeman) Yamaha R6 21 0 0 21

10 5 Ahmad Faez Yahya Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX6R 0 0 20 20

11 8 Carl Notfors Yamaha R6 19 0 0 19

 

 

 

Super Sports Novice

No. Comp.

No. Name Team Bike Rd

1 Rd

2 Rd

3 Rd

4 Rd

5 Total

1 23 Steven Ong Yamaha R6 50 50 50 150

2 72 Safarin Hasibon Yamaha R6 40 20 40 100(Representing Chua Chu Kang)hehe

3 33 Tunku Mezal Yamaha R1 32 32 0 64

4 99 Alvin Chan (@lvin) Yamaha R6 21 23 0 44

5 66 Naidu Wayne (luciferwayne) Yamaha R6 26 13 0 39

6 34 Thamodharan Krishnan Team Bikelab Traxxion Dynamics Yamaha R6 10 29 0 39

7 9 Muhamadi Saifulnizam Honda CBR600 0 0 32 32

8 77 Chan Chee Hoong Suzuki 0 0 26 26

9 89 Tan Chot Toh Suzuki 0 0 22 22

10 95 Oliver Castillo (zzback) Yamaha R6 0 22 0 22

11 11 Abdul Wafi Hassan Kawasaki ZX6R 20 0 0 20

12 17 Chew Khai Yong Suzuki 0 0 20 20

13 37 Lim Tse Ming Kawasaki ZX6R 0 10 0 10

 

 

Singaporean riders who race but not in list:-

Dhiraj(fatdi) Yamaha R6

Roger(edmundio)i think hehe..sorry bro.. Yamaha R6