DIY Chain Oiler

[Dino Bravo]

Originally posted by dominator@Sep 23 2005, 08:42 PM

Scoot Oiler?

 

I been using for about 2 years.

 

Although too ex as mention by you, I am happy that my current chain and both sprockets changed since last year july have no visible sign of wear. Chain tightening to what I remember only done 3 times.

My mileage? Don't ask me...you may not believe it.

yes i believe you... i'm using scottoiler too... lasted me 75000km plus minus before i got my chain tighten. it not only lubes your chain well, it also keeps it clean. i believe a DIY type wld serve the same purpose if the correct oil is used.

[ArBokia]

Originally posted by chris 525@Sep 26 2005, 10:39 PM

he he -

have figured out how to make the Rabbit oiler fully automatic. Meaning no more pumping/squeezing/ or doing things manually.

On the engine and go.

Need to do some testing to make sure the concept reliable.

Prototype already working on my CBR

can it be modify .. cos just bought the rabbit oiler from u ? i want fully auto

[raven77]

i too had diy a oiler similar to the rabbit oiler all the stuff taken from my house didnt spent a cent...

 

 

at less easily for me no need to keep on oiling .

[fooz]

spent the whole afternoon , playin ard wiv this DIY oiler..

its amazing how simple this thing works..

 

btw, my flowrate seems quite unstable..

its either too lilttle or too much..

 

so mr.limsteel, do u turn on the valve onli when ur on the move?

 

aniway, i was oso toyin ard wiv the idea of tapping the air frm the airbox. but the outlet is v big..

so, ani ideas?

[jonse]

how the oil flow y it self n control the flow

[Limsteel]

Originally posted by fooz@Nov 24 2005, 07:59 PM

spent the whole afternoon , playin ard wiv this DIY oiler..

its amazing how simple this thing works..

 

btw, my flowrate seems quite unstable..

its either too lilttle or too much..

 

so mr.limsteel, do u turn on the valve onli when ur on the move?

 

aniway, i was oso toyin ard wiv the idea of tapping  the air frm the airbox. but the outlet  is v big..

so, ani ideas?

It is simple right? Scott oiler will have a hard time if everyone of us DIY our very own oiler.

 

Anyway, I just added another Green colour valve, I set my drip rate to about 1 or 2 drops a min (lower even better). very difficult to control. so kenna the G Spot liao don't touch anymore! The other Valve (can be a on/off valve) I put at an easy reach location before riding just open full blast... No worries about too much flow!

 

Initial trial, I make a big mess when I set the drip rate too high... Too much oil, all flow out onto the swing arm.

[fooz]

hmm... so got 2 valve now? ... interesting...

maybe tmr will add another one to try..

 

g-spot ah.. so shiok ...

i still tryin to find mine.. =)

 

hmm... u noe, the current applicator position is at the bottom of the rear sprocket.. was tinkin of chnagin the position to the chainguard..

so it can drip on the sprocket as well as the chain... n this way.. it shldnt be messy.., cz it will drip on the sprocket...

[Limsteel]

forget to mention that I have attached a small plastic tube (come with WD40, RP7, see pic) to the end of my applicator... So instead of a large drop of oil, the oil drops are smaller... So flow rate can be abit more precise when tuning.

 

As for position, I think the best location is:

http://www.quality-cycle.com/The_Correct_Way_to_Lube_your_Chain_001.jpg

[zod]

Originally posted by fooz@Nov 24 2005, 10:22 PM

hmm... so got 2 valve now? ... interesting...

maybe tmr will add another one to try..

 

g-spot ah.. so shiok ...

i still tryin to find mine.. =)

 

hmm... u noe, the current applicator position is at the bottom of the rear sprocket.. was tinkin of chnagin the position to the chainguard..

so it can drip on the sprocket as well as the chain... n this way.. it shldnt be messy.., cz it will drip on the sprocket...

u need to remove the chain guard to drip to sprocket

[kirra55]

Good effort to make up an effective, cheap and simple device. Don't be worried about copyright, all those commercially available oilers are copies themselves. Therefore they do not have any recourse to copyright protection.

 

If you get a chance take a look at some vintage bikes or cars. They were often fitted at the factory with 'lubrication systems'. Mercedes had a system on their cars in the 1910's and so did maost other manufacturers. Motorcycle brands such as Squirrel, Mercury, Scott, etc all had some oiling system available, including the drive chains. Some bikes ran two chains, a primary and a secondary or final chain.

 

If you want to set up an 'Auto shut off' try using the existing system on your bike. The fuel valve on most tanks is vacumm operated. Get a second valve, fit to your system, run a line to the existing vacumm line to the fuel tap. Just plumb it in via a T piece connector. I'm using one system on a Gixxer at the moment, works well.

[Limsteel]

hmm... I don't know how S.oiler do it but I am afraid the vacuum suck oil into air box or what even you connect too... I let gravity do it's job...

 

Else, I am thinking of using a mini solenoid hydraulic valve (normally closed) connect to switch. when you switch on your bike, current pass thru soleniod and actuate the valve open... really simple circuit... But cost of Soleniod valve $10? 100? I don't know... So manually operated valve CHEAPO is best option

 

Updates on pics! The additional underseat regulator... solve the problem of unequal flowrate everytime you turn it ON! So just find the best flowrate (1 - 2 drops a min, up to you). The flowrate will remain costant everytime you turn it ON!

[Limsteel]

Instead of a regulator, I swap mine for a steel on/off valve $1 from Fishy shop! I love keeping fishes!

[Limsteel]

Attached additional RP7 tube to the orginal big hole applicator... Smaller hole makes flow seems more constant... pycho feeling maybe... I donno...

 

After weeks of trial and error... finally I can hand off the oiler liao!

[fooz]

v gd improvements!

 

yea, i saw the metal valve at the fish shop, was contemptin to get it cz look so nice.. but the shop i went was sellin at 2bux.. so i decided agnst it n gt the plastic one... 50cents.. (cheapo me)

 

btw, how do u connect the small tube applicator to the air tube?

 

 

still tryin to find the g-spot .. darn..

[Limsteel]

Toa Payoh fish shop selling $1 for the valve. 10cents for the air tube connector.

As for connecting the RP7 tube to the applcator end. Use an air tube connector, using super glue attach the RP7 tube (small section will do, too long will be unstable during riding). Once cured, attached it to the end. I super glue them together, as I lost a few of these while riding.

 

Finding the correct flowrate need time. once you adjusted a setting, you have to wait for the flowrate to stablised. I waited like 2 to 5min. then I fine tune again waiting a few min each time I adjust the flow.

[fooz]

be careful while tightenin the knob of the air contrl valve.

i over tighten, n the whole thing crack.

changed to the metal valve. looks nicer, n def easier to contrl the flowrate as well !

 

anway, i added another dripper, tto drip frm the top of the chain guard.

abit more ley chey now, cz i got to turn on 2 valve instd of 1.. but heck, it works .. so m happy...

 

all it needs now is a gd wash, to remove the oily handprints..

 

so mr. limsteel, animore fun things to DIY? heh...

[spin37]

hi limsteel, maybe u wanna cut a hole at the bottle cap and add a tube as a breather (the tube is to prevent water from goin in)..this will help the oil to flow more constant..i jus tried it out with and without the breather..its better to add it..

[Limsteel]

Initially I wanted to install a breather couple with a check valve (available at fish shop for $3) it will allow air to flow in and restrict the oil from flowing out incase it topples... but the bottle cap already damaged, it cannot be tighten. So with breather or without breather don't matter.

 

It is a good idea for those whose container is air tight.

[kirra55]

Originally posted by Limsteel@Nov 25 2005, 10:12 PM

hmm... I don't know how S.oiler do it but I am afraid the vacuum suck oil into air box or what even you connect too... I let gravity do it's job...

 

Else, I am thinking of using a mini solenoid hydraulic valve (normally closed) connect to switch. when you switch on your bike, current pass thru soleniod and actuate the valve open... really simple circuit... But cost of Soleniod valve $10? 100? I don't know... So manually operated valve CHEAPO is best option

 

Updates on pics! The additional underseat regulator... solve the problem of unequal flowrate everytime you turn it ON! So just find the best flowrate (1 - 2 drops a min, up to you). The flowrate will remain costant everytime you turn it ON!

The vacuum does not suck up oil, as there is no connection to the delivery side. The vacuum line runs from fuel tank valve to oiler and ends there. It works exactly same way as the vacuum line to your fuel valve, which does not suck up fuel.

 

I agree that simple is best, less to go wrong. BTW if you, or anyone else, should happen to come up with any devices or items that you think may be useful, then let me know. Our workshop develops prototypes for all sorts of industries. So we are used to dealing with fresh/unusual ideas.

[Limsteel]

Thanks for enlightening, I understand now... I can use pneumatic normally closed valve.. when only there is an air pressure diff the valve will open... Idea... but how much this valve will cost and how big is it?

 

If I can go down to scrape yard maybe can find those scrape bike fuel tank valve to replace the replace my existing ON/Off switch then it will be beautiful!

 

IF I CAN GO LAH!

[kirra55]

Originally posted by Limsteel@Dec 6 2005, 11:49 AM

Thanks for enlightening, I understand now... I can use pneumatic normally closed valve.. when only there is an air pressure diff the valve will open... Idea... but how much this valve will cost and how big is it?

 

If I can go down to scrape yard maybe can find those scrape bike fuel tank valve to replace the replace my existing ON/Off switch then it will be beautiful!

 

IF I CAN GO LAH!

Yep thats what I'm using, a fuel valve from some moped thing, from memory its from a Honda 110 fuel tank that was scrap metal. Its not big at all, about 3cm wide by 2cm deep, already fitted with O-ring and I reused the bolts that came off the tank.

 

I just drilled it into the bottom of my oil reservoir and drilled and tapped two bolt holes for it, even used the filter that came with it. Not difficult to make or fit.Cost me RM2, so cheap, and I do use the air valve from a fish tank downline. Its a simple two way metal valve, costing RM3, thats just to make sure.

 

I use 150w Gear Oil, I have 60 litres of the stuff in a drum that I use for other machinery. Works out very cheap and I get long time between refills.

[fooz]

v interesting.

so this thing works when u switch on ur bike..

 

happen to have any pics? nt sure hw a fuel valve looks like.

 

btw, y r all ur $$ in RM$?

ur factory in msia?

[kirra55]

Originally posted by fooz@Dec 7 2005, 02:14 AM

v interesting.

so this thing works when u switch on ur bike..

 

happen to have any pics? nt sure hw a fuel valve looks like.

 

btw, y r all ur $$ in RM$?

ur factory in msia?

When the engine starts a vacuum opens the fuel valve from the petrol tank as well as the valve from my chain oil tank. Its the same as any fuel tank switch, the one you turn to 'Reserve' when you start running out of fuel.

 

I will try and get around to taking some pics of the thing next time I have it apart, and will post here.

 

Yes I do have a workshop here in Malaysia, which is why the MR$. We custom make items for surface, sea and air transportation needs. We also do made to order for racing use, anything that uses an engine/s for power. Most of our work is developing componentry for CAM using a variety of software and some 'reverse engineering'.

 

We are in the process of setting up a micro-shop in Sg.

[RxzDelux]

Cheap and good idea.

[paiseh]

MY DIY oiler!!!!!

 

oiler bottle at my rear seat

http://www.photoi.org/share/upload2/561605719/oiler1.jpg

 

the setup, knob, better version den others, turn in n out to control flow rate of lubrication oil. very nice control as well

http://www.photoi.org/share/upload2/267072670/oiler2.jpg

 

view from the back

http://www.photoi.org/share/upload2/1736438039/oiler3.jpg

 

http://www.photoi.org/share/upload2/865636268/oiler4.jpg

 

nipper driper x 2

http://www.photoi.org/share/upload2/24323152/oiler5.jpg

 

drilled 2 holes on my front chain guard to hold the 2 dripers onto chain at correct places.

http://www.photoi.org/share/upload2/2054192525/oiler6.jpg

 

this is how i tried to hide the tube n oiler bottle

http://www.photoi.org/share/upload2/569049877/oiler7.jpg