Kawasaki KRR150 Riders

[RainXP]

Originally posted by Kino@Apr 16 2004, 10:29 AM

Now my bike have a problem.. it is a stock bike. whenever i kick start with choke on.... it will reach around 2 plus RPM......then after 10sec i turn off choke it lower downthen when i turn my lite on. it always die engine.. why ah??? .... then i go increase my 2T valve so my engine wun die mah. so i keep turning..... after riding for a 30min plus....then the idle RPM increase to 2plus... which result in i need to turn down my 2T valve ..... why does my engine take so long to warm up.. last time warm up abit then can liao.....

 

Last time when kick start liao with choke on.. it will reach RPM 3 plus.. but now low sia...any pro can help?

 

Now when starting my journey... need to turn the 2T valve alot... after 30min when i see my idle RPM back to high.... i need to turn down again... si bei sian~~~

Well, you shld kick start with choke on and leave it for like 5mins. Then off the choke and ride off. No need to keep adjust your idling 1 la.. Set it to abt 1.25k or if you are beginner, use 1.5k idling.

[tianz]

Originally posted by Kino@Apr 16 2004, 10:29 AM

Now my bike have a problem.. it is a stock bike. whenever i kick start with choke on.... it will reach around 2 plus RPM......then after 10sec i turn off choke it lower downthen when i turn my lite on. it always die engine.. why ah??? .... then i go increase my 2T valve so my engine wun die mah. so i keep turning..... after riding for a 30min plus....then the idle RPM increase to 2plus... which result in i need to turn down my 2T valve ..... why does my engine take so long to warm up.. last time warm up abit then can liao.....

 

Last time when kick start liao with choke on.. it will reach RPM 3 plus.. but now low sia...any pro can help?

 

Now when starting my journey... need to turn the 2T valve alot... after 30min when i see my idle RPM back to high.... i need to turn down again... si bei sian~~~

yours is tune too low already lah....

morning kick start most probably will need choke on... but once it's on.. u can switch off choke... play with throttle abit .. @ max 4 rpm 4 mi... (maybe 5-10 secs) max.... then let it idle liaoz... if it still die.... can only confirm you idling is too low...

 

for your case u might want to tune your idling when your headlight is on.... making sure with headlight on.. the bike doesn't die on you. but of course when headlight off... the idling will be higher lah.. but better for you lah.

[bryan]

:hungry:

mayb its time to organise a outing to tommy(leader) stall to give him support..

float e stall..hahha.. free food le..

[RainXP]

Originally posted by bryan@Apr 16 2004, 02:11 PM

:hungry:

mayb its time to organise a outing to tommy(leader) stall to give him support..

float e stall..hahha.. free food le..

haha. we all want free food.

[terry84]

Originally posted by Kino@Apr 16 2004, 10:29 AM

Now my bike have a problem.. it is a stock bike. whenever i kick start with choke on.... it will reach around 2 plus RPM......then after 10sec i turn off choke it lower downthen when i turn my lite on. it always die engine.. why ah??? .... then i go increase my 2T valve so my engine wun die mah. so i keep turning..... after riding for a 30min plus....then the idle RPM increase to 2plus... which result in i need to turn down my 2T valve ..... why does my engine take so long to warm up.. last time warm up abit then can liao.....

 

Last time when kick start liao with choke on.. it will reach RPM 3 plus.. but now low sia...any pro can help?

 

Now when starting my journey... need to turn the 2T valve alot... after 30min when i see my idle RPM back to high.... i need to turn down again... si bei sian~~~

hi, maybe u can try my method.(this is only for first start of the day, dun off engine a while go eat lunch come back oso use it if not bery bo eng)

 

 

step one, set idling to 1.25 when rpm is stable(tat means engine won't die)

 

step two, everytime start bike with choke on and lights off then rpm higher than normal

 

step three, wait until rpm drop to about 2 or maybe a bit more than 2

 

step four, close choke on lights kick first gear and VRomMmMm(PeHhhHH)

 

the above steps neber failed me since i start using it

[bryan]

Originally posted by terry84@Apr 16 2004, 11:43 PM

hi, maybe u can try my method.(this is only for first start of the day, dun off engine a while go eat lunch come back oso use it if not bery bo eng)

 

 

step one, set idling to 1.25 when rpm is stable(tat means engine won't die)

 

step two, everytime start bike with choke on and lights off then rpm higher than normal

 

step three, wait until rpm drop to about 2 or maybe a bit more than 2

 

step four, close choke on lights kick first gear and VRomMmMm(PeHhhHH)

 

the above steps neber failed me since i start using it

steady la terry..

since when u bcame profesional le..

lol..

just kidding sia.. :thumb:

[Noah]

Originally posted by Kino@Apr 16 2004, 10:29 AM

Now my bike have a problem.. it is a stock bike. whenever i kick start with choke on.... it will reach around 2 plus RPM......then after 10sec i turn off choke it lower downthen when i turn my lite on. it always die engine.. why ah??? .... then i go increase my 2T valve so my engine wun die mah. so i keep turning..... after riding for a 30min plus....then the idle RPM increase to 2plus... which result in i need to turn down my 2T valve ..... why does my engine take so long to warm up.. last time warm up abit then can liao.....

 

Last time when kick start liao with choke on.. it will reach RPM 3 plus.. but now low sia...any pro can help?

 

Now when starting my journey... need to turn the 2T valve alot... after 30min when i see my idle RPM back to high.... i need to turn down again... si bei sian~~~

Kino,

when you first start your bike, electrical power is channelled to power your spark plug. When you switch on your headlight, part of the electrical power generated by the engine is channelled to the headlight.

However the healight is another power sucker and may sap away a substantial amount of electrical energy from the spark plug, causing weak sparks. Your engine may or may not die off, but it'll take longer to warm the engine up.

 

1) KRR requires the idle RPM to be at least 1K RPM with the headlight in order for the engine not to die off.

 

If your idle RPM is lower than 1K RPM, you will have to adjust the idling speed screw.

 

First, adjust the idling to some high setting, maybe half a turn to increase. Start the bike, and if engine doesn't die, switch on headlight. Once headlight on, adjust idling to just above 1K RPM.

 

2) You may want to check your spark plug and see if there's anything abnormal about it. A dirty or fuel-fouled spark plug may not produce sufficient heat to sustain the engine.

 

By the way, recommend that your start the engine without switching on the headlight first. The engine idle RPM will be slightly high at this stage bcos the headlight is not switched on yet. After the engine has sufficiently warmed up, you can switch on the headlight without fear of engine die-off.

 

And also, the 2T is a lubrication for your engine piston. From what you described, it doesn't sound like it has got anythign to do with the problem. 2T is quite a sensitive and important setting and is best not to meddle with it too often.

[Guest sianz~]

is it possible to find first hand krr at bike shops now?

[RainXP]

Originally posted by sianz~@Apr 17 2004, 07:12 PM

is it possible to find first hand krr at bike shops now?

yes... ard 5k.

[Guest sianz~]

realli ar? which yr production is that? cause honda SP stop production yrs back, i tot krr also..... going to b krr siao den. wahaha

[Kino]

thankZ teRRY....i solve the problem lioa.. went to HKL and change my spark plug to i think NGK gold... for $8 and that malays wear spect one help me tune tune abit dun noe wat u do... saw him sticking a thing into the engine and turn .... then he turn trottle to VRRRooommm Loud lOUd and tune again.... now wun die engine lioa.. so happy and relief~~~

[Kino]

Hmmm pro plss help....got one meter there got one small round red lite to indicate when u need to fill up yr 2T......

This is wat happen... whenever i kick to 3rd and 4th gear.... the lite lights up... and when 5th lioa it goes off... is there ani problem with the lite or is it warning me 2T finishing soon... even if 2T finishing soon.. why it lite only at 3rd and 4th gear.... ani KRr rider encounter this pro???

[Noah]

Originally posted by Kino@Apr 17 2004, 07:32 PM

Hmmm pro plss help....got one meter there got one small round red lite to indicate when u need to fill up yr 2T......

This is wat happen... whenever i kick to 3rd and 4th gear.... the lite lights up... and when 5th lioa it goes off... is there ani problem with the lite or is it warning me 2T finishing soon... even if 2T finishing soon.. why it lite only at 3rd and 4th gear.... ani KRr rider encounter this pro???

Kino,

that lamp is a "2T Low" indicator.

It lights up when your 2T reaches low level.

In practice, when it lights up, you still have enough 2T left to travel for about 5 days at 50km/day, 100km/h assuming you accelerate normally and not whack your throttle and your 2T consumption rate is nominal.

 

The indicator sensor is located in your 2T reservoir where you fill up your 2T.

Look at your 2T reservoir and you notice just beside the cap, there's a round button looking thing with wires attached. That is the level sensor for the 2T. If you pull the thing up (no, please don do that yourself), you will find that it's actually a metal tube with some holes along its length.

 

The sensor sometimes gets jammed, so it comes on and off. Sometimes the indicator lites up all the time, and sometimes it doesn't lite up at all. This also happens when the 2T level is near the trigger level, or when you go up slope or over humps. These are false indications. But when you find that the lamp comes on and does not go out at all, the 2T level has triggered the sensor completely, and you will have to start monitor your 2T level.

 

If the sensor is working normally, when you are in neutral gear, the lamp should stay lit. If it does not, tht means there is most probably something wrong with the indicator (perhaps the bulb knocked out, or the wire was loose).

 

When you engage gear, any gear except neutral, and the lamp goes out, 2T level is good. But when you engage gear and the lamp comes on, it may mean your 2T is low, or your sensor is jammed. You will have to check the 2T level yourself visually to confirm.

 

In your case, it's probably false indication. Check your 2T reservoir to confirm.

[Kino]

THaNK NoAH~~ Hmm i got the lite when i reach 3rd and 4th gear only.....i tot if there is no 2T.. it should keep liting up to warn me lioa..but funny funny it only lite on 3rd and 4th gear... i just wanna noe is this normal.. if it is adnormal.. then maybe i need to go fix it lioa.....i see see my 2T resorvior and it left about 1/3 or 1/4 i think......

So i just wanna noe is it normal for the 2T lite to lite up at gear 3 and 4 only when my 2T is finishing....

[RainXP]

Originally posted by sianz~@Apr 17 2004, 07:21 PM

realli ar? which yr production is that? cause honda SP stop production yrs back, i tot krr also..... going to b krr siao den. wahaha

2004 production ... this bike is still in production.

[RainXP]

Originally posted by Kino@Apr 17 2004, 07:29 PM

thankZ teRRY....i solve the problem lioa.. went to HKL and change my spark plug to i think NGK gold... for $8 and that malays wear spect one help me tune tune abit dun noe wat u do... saw him sticking a thing into the engine and turn .... then he turn trottle to VRRRooommm Loud lOUd and tune again.... now wun die engine lioa.. so happy and relief~~~

kanna chop le.. but treat it as a learning experience ba. fyi, can diy @ $2 nia.

[Noah]

Originally posted by Kino@Apr 17 2004, 11:04 PM

THaNK NoAH~~ Hmm i got the lite when i reach 3rd and 4th gear only.....i tot if there is no 2T.. it should keep liting up to warn me lioa..but funny funny it only lite on 3rd and 4th gear... i just wanna noe is this normal.. if it is adnormal.. then maybe i need to go fix it lioa.....i see see my 2T resorvior and it left about 1/3 or 1/4 i think......

So i just wanna noe is it normal for the 2T lite to lite up at gear 3 and 4 only when my 2T is finishing....

Kino,

it's not normal.

pai seh, i said too much and you din manage to catch my intended answer.

[terry84]

got $2 plug one meh?? can trust one onot ar??

[RainXP]

Originally posted by terry84@Apr 18 2004, 02:14 AM

got $2 plug one meh?? can trust one onot ar??

NGK stock plug. I been using for ages...u say lei?

[Guest sianz~]

i was juz wondering if i would b able to reach the ground on a krr. im onli 168cm sia.... sad...

[Dino606]

Originally posted by sianz~@Apr 18 2004, 12:15 PM

i was juz wondering if i would b able to reach the ground on a krr. im onli 168cm sia.... sad...

sorry...think u must be kidding ...

1.68 m tall cannot touch the ground on a krr ...???

dun worry ...sure can touch ...not on a bike like class 2A or 2

[waikeat]

Originally posted by sianz~@Apr 18 2004, 12:15 PM

i was juz wondering if i would b able to reach the ground on a krr. im onli 168cm sia.... sad...

i shorter than u ..u say leh...so suaning to mi man!...

[Guest sianz~]

alamak sorry sorry.. i new guy ma... nv realli get on a krr b4.. so i ask.. keke... no more this type of qn le.

[RainXP]

Originally posted by Dino606@Apr 18 2004, 12:31 PM

sorry...think u must be kidding ...

1.68 m tall cannot touch the ground on a krr ...???

dun worry ...sure can touch ...not on a bike like class 2A or 2

doesnt really matter on wat class the bike is, rather is the type of bike u go for... a 2B scram..hehez..

[bryan]

Originally posted by waikeat@Apr 18 2004, 12:37 PM

i shorter than u ..u say leh...so suaning to mi man!...

kaoz..

u tok c..k ar..

u wher got shorter than 168..