Helmet and Tinted visors issues

[Jeffaw]

Today i jus got summon by TP.. Nv give chance sia. Today den i realised that tinted visor is not allowed.

[iliew]

Originally posted by GreeKo@Nov 20 2005, 12:18 PM

Wat abt those like OGK strip off shields? Does tat constitute it into a visor when used? To me using it wud be similar to like wearing sunglasses though easier to take off with juz a flip of da visor when riding into dark area like carpark n flip dwn when its bright agn. Though to take it off completely wuld b to stop da bike n remove helmet and strip it out but much convenient than to take off sunglass when riding into dark areas, i mean have any one tried to take off and put on sunglass while riding, im sure u knw its quite a stunt to execute it?

I was stopped once by a TP for this. I was using an OGK FF3 smoke tinted film at the time. He called in to check, said it CANNOT be used and let me off with a warning - no fine or summons.

[PegScraper]

Hi,

Is it true that full face helmets do not require a PSB sticker to be used on Singapore roads? The helmet is question is a GPR, but even so, I am skeptical that the PSB sticker is not needed.

 

Could you please help me out?

[Mengz_Zai]

A PSB sticker is always needed....

 

In case of (touch wood) accident, and u suffer head injury, the insurance will pay u only if u wear psb approve helmet

 

if no psb... uncle sam will give u fee ticket

[fnee]

gpr FF no psb stickers? where did you see from? i think ah boy's gpr has sticker.

 

HJC FF doesn't have psb sticker.. and yet their helmets are pretty nice/good.. sad case. ):

[desewer]

My AGV gp-pro also no sticker... but can you compare it to a $40 zeuz or mhr? cannot rite? so with the sticker a $40 helmet is safer than mine costing 10 times more???

 

The only reason there's no sticker is that PSB has not tested such helmets lor...

[PegScraper]

I'm getting confused... I saw on another thread here on the forum that it was *illegal* to market, purchase or have in possession any helmet that is not PSB certified; as well as all the good helmets on the market have no PSB sticker. I'm just worried about insurance as well as TP meetings. What should I do? I would like a good helmet, but as everyone points out, good helmets are not PSB certified...

[Raptor]

Originally posted by PegScraper@Jul 5 2006, 07:57 AM

I'm getting confused... I saw on another thread here on the forum that it was *illegal* to market, purchase or have in possession any helmet that is not PSB certified; as well as all the good helmets on the market have no PSB sticker. I'm just worried about insurance as well as TP meetings. What should I do? I would like a good helmet, but as everyone points out, good helmets are not PSB certified...

Dunno what 'stringent' tests are carried out and met on the helmet before it 'deserves' the right to have the PSB sticker affixed.

 

To me.. it seems to be like the COE. If the importers of those helmets are willing to pay enough... the helmets will be approved for use by our local blue boys and the insurance companies. Its not a question of standards here.

 

Since when did PSB standards are able to exceed the quality and safety requirements of more established bodies like DOT and the SNELL Foundation. Geez.

 

Sometimes, looking at the way we do things here... I wonder if we are a Third World nation.

[Raptor]

Originally posted by desewer@Jul 5 2006, 07:34 AM

My AGV gp-pro also no sticker... but can you compare it to a $40 zeuz or mhr? cannot rite? so with the sticker a $40 helmet is safer than mine costing 10 times more???

 

The only reason there's no sticker is that PSB has not tested such helmets lor...

So it all boils down to how much you value your head. $40 head, wear $40 helmet.

 

PSB approved so that insurance company will compensate you when your head is crushed coz it was a cheap helmet.

 

So what if the insurance pay out... you won't be around to enjoy the money.

 

I'd rather put on a helmet made of expensive proven materials that can protect me and not becoz it met our PSB so called standards.

[desewer]

Agreed.

[Cristiano83]

But if u kena a road block, will the TP issue u with a summon because u aint wearing a PSB approved helmet? Those instructors when i was learning bike told me that TP will catch u if u ain't wearing one...

[Raptor]

Originally posted by Cristiano83@Jul 6 2006, 08:34 PM

But if u kena a road block, will the TP issue u with a summon because u aint wearing a PSB approved helmet? Those instructors when i was learning bike told me that TP will catch u if u ain't wearing one...

Its just up to the way you look at it.

 

Many years ago, before the full faced helmets were allowed, I wore a full face when I rode. I got stopped and was fined $30 for "Wearing helmet of not approved type". I could have been wearing an army helmet and got the same fine.

 

For $30 fine, I was willing to take the risk and carried on wearing the helmet. Yes, like I told the TP, I know it is against the law. It is also against the law to kill someone. But not when I do it in self defense. I wore the full face to protect myself.

 

I ain't going to wait for you to stick that knife in me before I start defending myself, its too late. As much I ain't going to wear a cheap PSB approved helmet which offers me lesser protection than a SNELL Foundation or DOT approved helmet.

 

There are alot of people riding around with illegal exhausts which carry a $500 fine wearing $40 PSB approved helmets that ain't worth a crap in an accident.

Simply because they fear being stopped and being fined for wearing a non-PSB approved helmet?? Where lah the priorities??

 

Pennywise and pound foolish?

[aLv]

i totally agreed.. risk of being fine $30 or live to ride another day.. wats your choice?

[MC28]

I prefer using my Shoei without a Spring approve sticker..

 

Isnt PSB known as Spring now anyway???

[PegScraper]

Just an update...

 

Was in Looi's Motors, Kaki Bukit Place...

 

You can have your cake and eat it too : Shoei's @ 800 SGD, PSB Certified sticker too!

[sheep]

I feel that they usually do not penalise u if u are wearing a full face helmet with no psb sticker. i kenna road blocks before and they let me go without mentioning abt the missing psb sticker. I am sure it makes absolute sense to them that it is safer to be in a full face than wearing a halfcap or a psb approved $25 helmet.

[MC28]

PSB is just another local conspiracy built up to leech monies from our law abiding Singa-Pore-Lang...

[Demon]

Originally posted by MC28@Jul 7 2006, 02:31 AM

Isnt PSB known as Spring now anyway???

Spring Singapore is a regulatory body under the Ministry of Trade & Industry. Being a statutory board, it cannot be profit driven ie charge a fee for their service. So how ? Carved out the commercial function, ie. conducting of courses, testings..etc and put them under a separate business entity, called PSB Corporation. With that in place, PSB can legitimately charge a fee for their service. An earlier example will be CISCO.

 

[ronald814]

I remember abt 3 years ago, there was something in the forum regarding the wearing of dark visor in Singapore, the TP said they are reviewing. Anyone knows whether any outcome?

[Aalex82]

the outcome was out for sometime le..

i think abt 1 yr ago..

the tinted cannot be more than 30%

[karmatrix]

tinted visor is legal, but up to 30% only, anything more than that and it's a $50 dollars fine

[ronald814]

Really unfair to penalise us bikers when there are no robberies for so long by a person wearing a dark visor. 30% is not enough to block the noon sun rays. Don't know where to write in to complain. Any1 knows?

[kOpi_jaC]

Originally posted by ronald814@Jul 21 2006, 06:29 PM

Really unfair to penalise us bikers when there are no robberies for so long by a person wearing a dark visor. 30% is not enough to block the noon sun rays. Don't know where to write in to complain. Any1 knows?

tp dept?

[Guan_Xi]

dont waste time complaining.

[Powieee]

i think they'll just tell you that it's dangerous to have to tint more as your visiblity goes lower , etc etc .