Ducati Riders

[Guest nE0]

Originally posted by tealeaf@Jun 3 2005, 10:47 PM

wah piang! valve clearance every 10k?

 

and rubber belts on machine thats constantly being near redline sounds odd.

1) Thats Desmo valves for you.

 

2) Ducati stubburnly stick to timing belts for some reason. And its not rubber belts, those will stretch and destroy the engine in no time. Its Kevlar reinforced belts. And why should Ducatis be constantly run at redline, when theres plenty of torque all round? Thats the wrong riding style for the engine. Full time race 749Rs have their belts replaced after every race.

 

Ventilated belt covers can increase belt life by 50%. Anyway, the new Desmosedici superbike engine uses gear driven cams, no more belts!

[tealeaf]

Originally posted by nE0@Jun 4 2005, 02:03 AM

And why should Ducatis be constantly run at redline, when theres plenty of torque all round? Thats the wrong riding style for the engine.

i was kinda associating the sportier duc bikes like 748/9, 996/8/9 series since they'r more or less intended for track. Hence, my NEAR the redline statement. Not saying that they have to be run at redline. And since that they are designed for track/agressive riding use, they would probably be ran Near to redline and putting rubber belts that snap easily sounds odd.

[ktkt]

Originally posted by tealeaf@Jun 4 2005, 01:34 PM

i was kinda associating the sportier duc bikes like 748/9, 996/8/9 series since they'r more or less intended for track. Hence, my NEAR the redline statement. Not saying that they have to be run at redline. And since that they are designed for track/agressive riding use, they would probably be ran Near to redline and putting rubber belts that snap easily sounds odd.

10k valve clearance check but I think can be replaced with 15k check/clearance.

was told that the valves are very strong and seldom needs checking once bedded in.

 

As for the rubber belts, the newer ones are rubber/kevlar reinforced.

Then again, I think the 9x6/9x8 max torque peaks at 9000 rpm so

I think pushing it beyond 11k rpm is useless.

Then again, using belts will kind of reduce cost of servicing?

No need to take apart block/gasket, risk timing chain dropping in etc etc....

Then again, the belt replacement is a ###### as well.

 

Curiously, I think bike doesn't have a redline zone on the gauge. Perhaps 9xx owners can confirm

 

Upz for the Ducati 748 sales!

[NoLogicOne]

Duc Superbikes have no redline......it's in the rider's head.

 

From my manual, 996 redline 10,000rpm, 748 redline at 11,500rpm.

 

Just did my full servicing, and seriously, this being the 2nd one, I'm amazed that the valve cherance is still darn good and within limits!!!! No need to adjust, thus saving me lots of money!!!!

 

But my belt, at 15k already is showing signs of stretch and high wear. Maybe it's due to track usuage.....the shop recommends me 10K for belt change. It's norm for Ducs that goes track....

[NoLogicOne]

Any Ducs running on exhaust other than Termi and maybe, even with a Power Commander???

 

Wanna hear your views on it.

[obitrok]

the limiter kicks in at 10500rpm (altho i believe the engine can go close to 12k at max). max torque is at abt 8000rpm. guess ducati engineers are mechanically sympathetic and dont allow large vibey v twins go past 10500 rpm. so erm, if they can allow a limit so, there must be an unindicated redline that goes from 9000 rpm, as you're already close to being 'mechanically unsympathetic' and taking the engine to the max.

 

makes sense?

[DeusExMachina]

Originally posted by ducati@May 15 2005, 01:26 PM

For all u ducati enthusiasts out there,

 

http://www.7digital.com/shops/assets/fifthgear/lamb.asp

 

check out the 999 backing up the rear wheel at one stage. Brilliant rider.

 

Holy f**k!

 

That's one hell of a rear wheel slide...

[Kr0n]

Hey Rudy! Saw your bike at William's some time back like maybe a week or so ago? How did the repairs go? And how do you like their service? I think Norman is raring to do a Ducati haha.

[ktkt]

Yeah..... A Ducati podium finish today by Loris Capirossi!

Next question, would a road version of the Ducati V4 be appealing???

[ktkt]

http://www.motorsportscenter.com/uploads/duc_turn_string.jpg

[DeusExMachina]

Originally posted by Kr0n@Jun 5 2005, 07:49 PM

Saw your bike at William's some time back like maybe a week or so ago? How did the repairs go? And how do you like their service? I think Norman is raring to do a Ducati haha.

 

Thanks! Everything's great. I got the bike back and am riding it these few days to get back the feel after 1 month off it.

[LedZep]

Originally posted by NoLogicOne@Jun 4 2005, 05:26 PM

Any Ducs running on exhaust other than Termi and maybe, even with a Power Commander???

Had Leo Vinci CF pipes and PCIII on my MS4 (916cc).

 

Chose LV pipes for the decent price and build quality. Had the PCIII fitted, dyno-ed and mapped at Ubi. Never regretted putting the pipes on. They were waaay lighter than the stock ones (regret don't have the exact weight figures), and freed up the exhaust note nicely. The PCIII was purchased, fitted, dyno-ed and mapped at Ubi. It cured a minor high-rev backfire, otherwise only did it because I'm anal about air/fuel mixture.

[NoLogicOne]

Originally posted by LedZep@Jun 6 2005, 11:14 AM

Had Leo Vinci CF pipes and PCIII on my MS4 (916cc).

 

Chose LV pipes for the decent price and build quality. Had the PCIII fitted, dyno-ed and mapped at Ubi. Never regretted putting the pipes on. They were waaay lighter than the stock ones (regret don't have the exact weight figures), and freed up the exhaust note nicely. The PCIII was purchased, fitted, dyno-ed and mapped at Ubi. It cured a minor high-rev backfire, otherwise only did it because I'm anal about air/fuel mixture.

That's good to know.......any significant differences from other 916 with Termis and Eprom???

[Throttle]

Friend has a 2003 stock yellow Ducati 900SS for sale.

 

2 owners , solid condition. $12,500 nett

[LedZep]

Originally posted by NoLogicOne@Jun 7 2005, 12:01 PM

That's good to know.......any significant differences from other 916 with Termis and Eprom???

Not much difference between the LV pipes and Termis, at least not in terms of performance (slip-ons don't give much perf boost anyway). The exhaust note might be diff due to different design and construction of pipes from diff manufacturers.

 

The main reason that I put on aftermarket pipes was actually for increased ground clearance at the track - my LV pipes were hi-rise ones. And then I ended up grinding the screw that holds the header pipe to the slip-on... forgot to turn the collar inwards so the screw doesn't stick out. DUH!

 

I prefer to use PC rather than the 'racing' ECU since the PC allows customised mapping to any pipes and at local atmosphere, altitude, etc. The ECU is pre-programmed and not customised to local climatic conditions..... unless you can get flash-programmeable chips locally? but then again I have no experience with the flash-stuff, not sure how they can be programmed to suit local conditions....

[ktkt]

Any lobangs for 02 998?

Or any 999s? Which year 999 is a no-no and which's is a yes-yes?

[Guest nE0]

KTKT, buying a 999 liao ah?

[ktkt]

Originally posted by nE0@Jun 7 2005, 11:14 PM

KTKT, buying a 999 liao ah?

Dunno leh....

From what I gathered, 02 998 is a good year/model to buy.

999, I think the first few early models had some problems.

05 999 is way out of budget... so dunno which year 999 is a good buy.

 

See how first lar... Maybe go Minerva see got any or not.

[LedZep]

Hi,

the price of the 999 hasn't changed since 2003. Minerva is still pricing them at SGD38K for the base model.

 

The '03 model had 2 problems that I'm aware of

1) water getting past the spark plug coils - corroding the coils, killing the plugs. Believe DMH finally issued instructions to dealers to replace the original coils.

 

2) Plastic cover (for license plate light) dropping off due to the vibes. The orginal cover was a snap-on, subsequently a screw was incorporated.

 

Hope this info helps

[obitrok]

Originally posted by LedZep@Jun 8 2005, 09:42 AM

Hi,

the price of the 999 hasn't changed since 2003. Minerva is still pricing them at SGD38K for the base model.

 

The '03 model had 2 problems that I'm aware of

1) water getting past the spark plug coils - corroding the coils, killing the plugs. Believe DMH finally issued instructions to dealers to replace the original coils.

 

2) Plastic cover (for license plate light) dropping off due to the vibes. The orginal cover was a snap-on, subsequently a screw was incorporated.

 

Hope this info helps

damn, and i paid for the license plate light piece. didn know it was a recall item.

 

there is another item with problems as well and thats the tacho piece. some units had the 'service' light continously turned on.

 

anyway, im having thoughts abt selling my bike...

[NoLogicOne]

Originally posted by LedZep@Jun 7 2005, 05:05 PM

Not much difference between the LV pipes and Termis, at least not in terms of performance (slip-ons don't give much perf boost anyway). The exhaust note might be diff due to different design and construction of pipes from diff manufacturers.

 

The main reason that I put on aftermarket pipes was actually for increased ground clearance at the track - my LV pipes were hi-rise ones. And then I ended up grinding the screw that holds the header pipe to the slip-on... forgot to turn the collar inwards so the screw doesn't stick out. DUH!

 

I prefer to use PC rather than the 'racing' ECU since the PC allows customised mapping to any pipes and at local atmosphere, altitude, etc. The ECU is pre-programmed and not customised to local climatic conditions..... unless you can get flash-programmeable chips locally? but then again I have no experience with the flash-stuff, not sure how they can be programmed to suit local conditions....

I prefer to be different from the rest of the crowd, meaning, almost every Duc out there are stashing Termis up their rear end. Heard of a Duc Superbike with Yoshi TriOvals, and I saw a Monster with Arrows at Minerva.....

 

What I want is Twobrothers or Akraprovic with PCIII......but no $$$, so can only daydream.

 

Thing is, is Termi that good for Duc or is it because of conveniences' sake as everything is in the Accessory Catalogue???

[sg_r1]

hi dudes...

 

i am thinking of getting a duke 996. Can anyone shed some light on this bike? Like things to take note of with this bike... servicing blah blah... i have read this thread thoroughly.. just want to know if there's anything else to add... Does anyone knows how to see if there's an accident or smth?

 

oh.. is 18k ok for a 996 that is registered in Sept 01? Mileage 14k only with termi pipes and ohlins rear.

 

thanks.

[LedZep]

Originally posted by NoLogicOne@Jun 8 2005, 06:45 PM

Thing is, is Termi that good for Duc or is it because of conveniences' sake as everything is in the Accessory Catalogue???

I think its a case of convenience as well as branding. Termis and Duc are often associated with each other. I guess some Duc owners might go with Termis since you won't see Termis on most other makes of bikes.

 

I for one am not too impressed with the build quality of Termis.... so I'm always open to alternative brands.

 

Obitrok - Are you running Temis on your 999? Just curious cos I think the only available exhaust systems that look good on the 999 are the Leo Vinci and Termis ones.

[Seven]

Hi guys,

I m planning to let go my 04 registed 999. Interested party can pm or call me at 96929097 for more detail.

Thanks

[ktkt]

Venue: Simpang Bedok Kopi

Date: 10th June

Time: 2200H

 

Eh.... Anyone interested?