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Sorry to say, if anybody wants a fast car, buy a fast car and modify properly from the fast car platform. Modify the Audi TT, Golf GT, GTI and Scirocco with Öttinger parts, modify the BMW 630i, M3, 130i with AC Schnitzer parts, the Civic Type R with Mugen parts, the SLK200 with Brabus parts. A vios will never become a MR-S, a Mazda3 will never become a MX5, a WRX will never be a STI, a 320i will never be a M3, a Lancer will never become an EVO... and the list goes on. There is more than just modification parts found on the market to car building. The chassis is one great example. Change engine, change gearbox, but the chassis is the same. Change the chassis as well... might as well buy the real thing... This is my personal opinion which is also of course disputable.

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wah,nice,but i dun tink the wide bodykit is allow in singapore rite???

allowed, as long as nothing protrudes out of your car's body, soooooo you gotta do all together. Eg. Wide body with rims spaced out or else it'll look funny :cheeky:

 

drop out got free rims mah :lol:

:lol: simi idea :faint:

exterior like bodykits? aftermarket tail lamps? stickers, emblem, curtains, window tinting, running led, ccfl etc etc..

 

performance: td04? gt35 (might be too oversize)? unichip, billion air funnel, ah man exos, upsize injectors, fuel pump, fuel rail etc etc?

 

Standby 10k or more to do man. Prepare to eat, sleep, bath, wash ur underwear at the workshop with them :cheeky:

:lol: try to do legal stuffs ba, take out tinting man.. so boring to drive like a cat..

 

Sorry to say, if anybody wants a fast car, buy a fast car and modify properly from the fast car platform. Modify the Audi TT, Golf GT, GTI and Scirocco with Öttinger parts, modify the BMW 630i, M3, 130i with AC Schnitzer parts, the Civic Type R with Mugen parts, the SLK200 with Brabus parts. A vios will never become a MR-S, a Mazda3 will never become a MX5, a WRX will never be a STI, a 320i will never be a M3, a Lancer will never become an EVO... and the list goes on. There is more than just modification parts found on the market to car building. The chassis is one great example. Change engine, change gearbox, but the chassis is the same. Change the chassis as well... might as well buy the real thing... This is my personal opinion which is also of course disputable.

Ditto! :cheers:

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Sorry to say, if anybody wants a fast car, buy a fast car and modify properly from the fast car platform. Modify the Audi TT, Golf GT, GTI and Scirocco with Öttinger parts, modify the BMW 630i, M3, 130i with AC Schnitzer parts, the Civic Type R with Mugen parts, the SLK200 with Brabus parts. A vios will never become a MR-S, a Mazda3 will never become a MX5, a WRX will never be a STI, a 320i will never be a M3, a Lancer will never become an EVO... and the list goes on. There is more than just modification parts found on the market to car building. The chassis is one great example. Change engine, change gearbox, but the chassis is the same. Change the chassis as well... might as well buy the real thing... This is my personal opinion which is also of course disputable.

 

well said.. :cheers:

 

but some ppl just dun understand..

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well said.. :cheers:

 

but some ppl just dun understand..

 

It is with such ignorance that alot of unscrupulous workshops make modifications a very lucrative business.

 

:)

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Sorry to say, if anybody wants a fast car, buy a fast car and modify properly from the fast car platform. Modify the Audi TT, Golf GT, GTI and Scirocco with Öttinger parts, modify the BMW 630i, M3, 130i with AC Schnitzer parts, the Civic Type R with Mugen parts, the SLK200 with Brabus parts. A vios will never become a MR-S, a Mazda3 will never become a MX5, a WRX will never be a STI, a 320i will never be a M3, a Lancer will never become an EVO... and the list goes on. There is more than just modification parts found on the market to car building. The chassis is one great example. Change engine, change gearbox, but the chassis is the same. Change the chassis as well... might as well buy the real thing... This is my personal opinion which is also of course disputable.

 

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and a nissan will never be a skyline? :cheeky:

I think another reason people modify a car is to make it look like one of the nicer models otr.. The OEM+ approach?

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Sorry to say, if anybody wants a fast car, buy a fast car and modify properly from the fast car platform. Modify the Audi TT, Golf GT, GTI and Scirocco with Öttinger parts, modify the BMW 630i, M3, 130i with AC Schnitzer parts, the Civic Type R with Mugen parts, the SLK200 with Brabus parts. A vios will never become a MR-S, a Mazda3 will never become a MX5, a WRX will never be a STI, a 320i will never be a M3, a Lancer will never become an EVO... and the list goes on. There is more than just modification parts found on the market to car building. The chassis is one great example. Change engine, change gearbox, but the chassis is the same. Change the chassis as well... might as well buy the real thing... This is my personal opinion which is also of course disputable.

 

Actually I would disagree.

 

I'll use a biking exp.. Why buy a Honda Wave and spend thousands of dollars to mod and enter Kup Prix? Why dun just get a 2nd hand R6 and ride? Some ppl just got too much money to spend,so it's ok.. if they wanna buy a budget car and upgrade it's components so that it handles better when they go for track days I dun see anything wrong.. There are high budget races and there are low budget races, to suit everyone's pocket I guess.. Not everyone can build a team to race in the Porsche Carrera Cup, but it wouldn't cost too much to enter the Super 1600.. In Thailand,they got a one make race for Vios.. I see that there are lots of aftermarket parts coming out from Thailand that are not all nonsense.. So there are still parts out there there will genuinely improve the car handling and performance compared to stock form..

 

There will always be claims of car "A" can smoke car "B".. Nobody will know unless the same person drives both car.. When my friend told me that a 125Z can equal the lap time of R6 at PG, I laughed.. But they can,some even faster..

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and a nissan will never be a skyline? :cheeky:

I think another reason people modify a car is to make it look like one of the nicer models otr.. The OEM+ approach?

 

i do agreed with u,people just wan to make their car be a nicer model OTR

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Actually I would disagree.

 

I'll use a biking exp.. Why buy a Honda Wave and spend thousands of dollars to mod and enter Kup Prix? Why dun just get a 2nd hand R6 and ride? Some ppl just got too much money to spend,so it's ok.. if they wanna buy a budget car and upgrade it's components so that it handles better when they go for track days I dun see anything wrong.. There are high budget races and there are low budget races, to suit everyone's pocket I guess.. Not everyone can build a team to race in the Porsche Carrera Cup, but it wouldn't cost too much to enter the Super 1600.. In Thailand,they got a one make race for Vios.. I see that there are lots of aftermarket parts coming out from Thailand that are not all nonsense.. So there are still parts out there there will genuinely improve the car handling and performance compared to stock form..

 

There will always be claims of car "A" can smoke car "B".. Nobody will know unless the same person drives both car.. When my friend told me that a 125Z can equal the lap time of R6 at PG, I laughed.. But they can,some even faster..

 

Haha.. no problem. I've already expressed that my views are disputable. And I will respect every single dissident view.

 

I do agree to the budget issue. That's why we have the expensive races and the not so expensive races run by people of probably the same ingredient and talents.

 

In conjunction, I do note you have very noteworthy points.... it is the driver not the car. The rider, not the bike. :angel:

 

There's nothing wrong to make our ride nice and unique. It is those who have an identity crisis visually and emotionally that causes worry. WRX into STI when it's not, Lancer into Evo when it's not. That's why we have cases of people challenging each other in the forum to race each other in the flesh. All in the name of ego gratification, no sportsmanship involved. My apologies, there's no better word than plain DAFT.

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put the badge can liao leh :cheeky:.

Nismo? :lol:

 

and a nissan will never be a skyline? :cheeky:

I think another reason people modify a car is to make it look like one of the nicer models otr.. The OEM+ approach?

for older models to change their looks to look like the newer facelift is quite common also :angel:

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Actually vios is a good starting point man for tracking or learnng to go fast but most importantly dont forget tuning man.........

Beating a Honda is like banging a fat chick. Everyone can do it but who wants to brag about it....

 

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Actually vios is a good starting point man for tracking or learnng to go fast but most importantly dont forget tuning man.........

 

 

I think if the owner wants to go for fun and tracking with a limited budget, a 2nd hand Proton Gen2 is a better choice. Cheap and heartpains greatly reuced. He can learn and play around with the parts and do R&D to modify the car.

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well i never aginist it... ex vios owner full understand ...

 

Is ok to mod watever car the person wish as long the person is happy, whether rice or race is another thing to discuss on. If have the dough why not :angel:

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I know there is someone out there

I know she is waiting so patiently yeah

Can you tell me her name?

(Somebody tell me her name)

This life-long search is gonna drive me insane

How does she laugh?

How does she cry?

What's the color of her eyes?

Does she even realize I'm here?

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different ppl have different brand prefer... like ppl love to go tracking with r6 but some say gsx is good enough... so is all about owner choice...

 

I think if the owner wants to go for fun and tracking with a limited budget, a 2nd hand Proton Gen2 is a better choice. Cheap and heartpains greatly reuced. He can learn and play around with the parts and do R&D to modify the car.

There is someone out there for me

I know there is someone out there

I know she is waiting so patiently yeah

Can you tell me her name?

(Somebody tell me her name)

This life-long search is gonna drive me insane

How does she laugh?

How does she cry?

What's the color of her eyes?

Does she even realize I'm here?

Where is she? Where is she? Where is she?

Where is this beautiful girl?Who is she? Who is she?

Who is gonna complete my world?

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well i agree is silly to do all these as all the $$$ u add up is enough to buy a good car... but some ppl just like the thrill of modding their car or maybe for those ppl who do bit by bit because they dont have enough cash to dump all into a new car

 

 

Sorry to say, if anybody wants a fast car, buy a fast car and modify properly from the fast car platform. Modify the Audi TT, Golf GT, GTI and Scirocco with Öttinger parts, modify the BMW 630i, M3, 130i with AC Schnitzer parts, the Civic Type R with Mugen parts, the SLK200 with Brabus parts. A vios will never become a MR-S, a Mazda3 will never become a MX5, a WRX will never be a STI, a 320i will never be a M3, a Lancer will never become an EVO... and the list goes on. There is more than just modification parts found on the market to car building. The chassis is one great example. Change engine, change gearbox, but the chassis is the same. Change the chassis as well... might as well buy the real thing... This is my personal opinion which is also of course disputable.

There is someone out there for me

I know there is someone out there

I know she is waiting so patiently yeah

Can you tell me her name?

(Somebody tell me her name)

This life-long search is gonna drive me insane

How does she laugh?

How does she cry?

What's the color of her eyes?

Does she even realize I'm here?

Where is she? Where is she? Where is she?

Where is this beautiful girl?Who is she? Who is she?

Who is gonna complete my world?

(J. Roman & Soluna 'Where are you')

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I think if the owner wants to go for fun and tracking with a limited budget, a 2nd hand Proton Gen2 is a better choice. Cheap and heartpains greatly reuced. He can learn and play around with the parts and do R&D to modify the car.

 

It depends what you enjoy more, doing up the car, or driving the car.

 

If you are into doing up car, then the ideal choice of car will be one with plenty of aftermarket parts. If you are into tracking, then start with a performance car like a WRX. If on a budget, you can get an old but good car like a Peugeot 205GTi.

 

Personally, I don't like Proton cars, their chassis are just too flimsy.

 

:)

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I think if the owner wants to go for fun and tracking with a limited budget, a 2nd hand Proton Gen2 is a better choice. Cheap and heartpains greatly reuced. He can learn and play around with the parts and do R&D to modify the car.

Hehe I'd prefer an old vios than a Gen2 :cheeky:

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:lol: I've ever read this in the papers before :box:

 

hmm same here but i jus can't recall where i read tht..

 

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http://www.asiaone.com/Motoring/Owners/Story/A1Story20090102-111768.html

 

http://www.asiaone.com/A1MEDIA/motoring/12Dec08/images/20090102.141357_20090102-np-vios-a.jpgDylan Yap spent $74k on his Toyota Vios. Which he claims is able to tail higher performance cars like the Subaru Impreza WRX at the Pasir Gudang track.

 

http://www.asiaone.com/A1MEDIA/motoring/12Dec08/images/20090102.141357_20090102-np-vios-b.jpg"Not rich but serious about cars"

 

Joyce Lim

 

Thu, Jan 01, 2009

The New Paper

 

THE 1.5 LITRE Toyota Vios which cost just $54,000 three years ago, was an economical choice for Dylan Yap.

 

But in the past two years, Yap spent more than $20,000 on upgrading his car.

 

Just how economical can that be?

 

Yap replied: "I didn't know that I've spent that much on modifying my car until now when you asked me about it.

 

"But with $74,000, I still can't buy a decent sports car."

 

For now, the 29-year-old car enthusiast is happy with his modified Toyota Vios which he claims is able to tail higher performance cars like the Subaru WRX at the Pasir Gudang Racing Circuit in Johor.

 

With a horsepower of 133 hp, Yap takes just two minutes to complete one lap (3.86 km) at the Pasir Gudang circuit.

 

Yap, who goes tracking once a month, said: "On track, I can't beat a high-powered sports car, but I can tail it. I'm usually considered the underdog."

 

Yap was running a graphic and stage design business when he first bought his Toyota Vios.

 

And when he started modifying it, he saw a better business opportunity in the growing car modifications industry and decided to jump onto the bandwagon.

 

It was in 2006 that Yap set up Speed-D Performance, specialising in modifying Toyota cars.

 

"When I first bought my car, I didn't think much about modifications because it is expensive to modify your car in Singapore," Yap said.

 

"I've always been interested in cars and I often went onto car forums to learn more about cars.

 

Opportunity

 

"One day I came across a rare part to enhance my car's gearbox for better performance and saw the business opportunity to bring in such parts for Toyota cars."

 

Yap then gave up his one-year-old design firm to go into the car modification business. His Toyota Vios became his guinea pig.

 

From the car seat to the transmission to the suspension and exhaust, Yap would enhance, replace and modify any part of his car that he could, yet keep his modifications within the strict rules and regulations set down by the Land Transport Authority (LTA). There is a limit to what one can do to modify cars under LTA rules.

 

Yap said: "I am not rich but I am serious about cars."

 

He operates from a small car workshop at Ang Mo Kio Autopoint where, in the past one-and-a-half years, Yap has helped more than 300 car owners modify their cars.

 

He declined to reveal how much he earns monthly, but said that his new business venture has allowed him to travel to Malaysia, Thailand, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong and the US for trade and motor shows at least once a month.

 

His next car purchase would be a Honda Civic Type R.

 

"Because it is one of the best naturally-aspirated cars available now," Yap explained.

 

Under the bonnet

Engine

Stock

Transmission: Five-speed close ratio with 1.5 way clutch type

4.3 Final Drive

JUN Lighten Flywheel

SPEED-D Racing clutch and pressure plate

TRD quick shift

$5080

 

Cooling unit Billion Super-solid coolant line

TRD 71deg sport thermostat

TRD 1.3bar radiator cap

$430

HKS Racing suction intake kit

$600

 

Charge-speed bucket seat: $600

 

Electronic: Defi BF Tachometer

Blitz R-vit iColor

Power Enterprise Camcom-T

Unichip Q

$2600

 

Exhaust system: HKS silent hi-power muffler

$980

GT wing: $200

Toyota sport pedal: $99

Sabelt four-point harness $120

 

Other parts: Tanaba sustec lowering brace front and rear: $600

C-one front ARB: $700

Progress rear ARB: $250

SPEED-D front tie bar: $130

SPC front camber nut: $240

Rear camber disc: $300

Vertex deep dish steering: $450

TRD engine cap: $50

Skunk2 gear knot: $40

 

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Maybe a GEN 2 tailing him... :cheeky: Especially those with loud stickers which add +5HP each and GT wing ... :lol:

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Who knows, when he gets his Type R, he might be tailed by Vios instead :rolleyes:

 

He already got it 5mths ago.. Haha.. Maybe the next newpaper article he will say his FD can tail GTR at Sepang..

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the mods are about 20k nia. the rest is the cost of the car.

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