Opb --- off peak bikes

[MR BIKER]

Hi all. Today , while riding saw me this Merc (160 or 170 ) (SKC series) with a red plate. I had that WHAT THE ???? moment there for a few seconds. Now for I dont care what she does with her money and the law. whether she can afford to pay normal or red plate is up to her. but i wonder if at that time the coe was about 70000 and minus 17000 for OPC register. the total price of the car would be around 150000. if its you, would you really do it the same way??

Now come to my title. I wonder why LTA does not introduce OPB . off peak bike. I know , i know some of you think, stupid. but if you really think about it. from what i see in this forum, many riders are actually riding their bike on sunday or after - hours especially those big bikes and especially those old (more than 10 years) bikes. Now if you take 15 yrs old but still very GOOOD engine GOLDWING or 1600cc HARLEY, and you will find that their road taxes can go up to 700 and up. I wonder if we (to those interested) can put an idea to LTA and see if they can put a plan for this bikes to be similar to OPC scheme. I am sure it can be done.

[wait4me]

if u peg the car coe to the bike coe, u will have your answer..

and all this high end cars change 18inch rims with high profile tires, also near bike coe already

[HaiR1]

Hi all. Today , while riding saw me this Merc (160 or 170 ) (SKC series) with a red plate. I had that WHAT THE ???? moment there for a few seconds. Now for I dont care what she does with her money and the law. whether she can afford to pay normal or red plate is up to her. but i wonder if at that time the coe was about 70000 and minus 17000 for OPC register. the total price of the car would be around 150000. if its you, would you really do it the same way??

Now come to my title. I wonder why LTA does not introduce OPB . off peak bike. I know , i know some of you think, stupid. but if you really think about it. from what i see in this forum, many riders are actually riding their bike on sunday or after - hours especially those big bikes and especially those old (more than 10 years) bikes. Now if you take 15 yrs old but still very GOOOD engine GOLDWING or 1600cc HARLEY, and you will find that their road taxes can go up to 700 and up. I wonder if we (to those interested) can put an idea to LTA and see if they can put a plan for this bikes to be similar to OPC scheme. I am sure it can be done.

 

 

 

 

 

How "cheap" can u be man?

[HaiR1]

Hi all. Today , while riding saw me this Merc (160 or 170 ) (SKC series) with a red plate. I had that WHAT THE ???? moment there for a few seconds. Now for I dont care what she does with her money and the law. whether she can afford to pay normal or red plate is up to her. but i wonder if at that time the coe was about 70000 and minus 17000 for OPC register. the total price of the car would be around 150000. if its you, would you really do it the same way??

Now come to my title. I wonder why LTA does not introduce OPB . off peak bike. I know , i know some of you think, stupid. but if you really think about it. from what i see in this forum, many riders are actually riding their bike on sunday or after - hours especially those big bikes and especially those old (more than 10 years) bikes. Now if you take 15 yrs old but still very GOOOD engine GOLDWING or 1600cc HARLEY, and you will find that their road taxes can go up to 700 and up. I wonder if we (to those interested) can put an idea to LTA and see if they can put a plan for this bikes to be similar to OPC scheme. I am sure it can be done.

 

 

 

 

 

Double Post.

[shahrul_azmil3]

Comparing rims.

 

Bike rims are costlier

 

Car 4 rims with tyres cost 2k

 

Bike 2 rims cost 2k

 

Dont forget it does not include the tyres, brake disc, valve etc

 

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[MR BIKER]

We dont look at tires or what not. But all this while, lta is always stressing about cc. The higher the cc, the more expensive the rosd tax and worse after ten yrs. now, my 1000cc opc car cost only 50 dollars excluding radio licence, then why not motor. As long as you have the intention of using the bikes only for off peak, then it is really a saving

[gusruh]

This will never happens.

[SlowButSteady Bro]

How save is save for bikes?

[GuiNNeSS]

Was looking thru Electric Scooters online.

 

Hmmm....the Juno one for $830 looks kinda like a normal bicycle with its battery all hidden away. I was like hmmmmmmmm........

 

Compare that to the Bromptoms and those high end electric foldable bikes......that is selling out fast at $6.9k each....I went further hmmm.......

[GuiNNeSS]

In other words. 2k bike COE. compare to current cars COE. Whats the point?

[Jehuty]

How "cheap" can u be man?

 

Good idea actually, can use the spare money for petrol...but some people rich, can't say much about that.

[MR BIKER]

Thanks Jehuty for seeing my way. VK, the point is mainly for people like me who would like to own big cc bike like Valk, GW , HD, Triumph, kawa 1600cc which are 10 years or more. these bikes taxes are like 600- 800 per year. of course if to renew coe is 1700 for ten years and get rebate for OPB then why not?? probably we pay less for coe and tax also less.

i dont mind paying less( hopefully like my OPC equivalent) tax only to ride the bike for the occasional saturday or sunday ride. of course , insurance cant be avoided.

[DeusExMachina]

You save at most a thousand a year. That's less than a hundred a month.

And if I need the bike for an emergency during peak hours, I have to cough up additional day-use charges?

 

No thanks. I think I'm fine paying the full amount.

It's impractical to implement something like this for so little difference in costs spread out over that amount of time.

 

If one has to count pennies to differentiate between a normal plate and OPB, then perhaps he or she should just take public transport and save more money instead.

[FloydRose]

I'm with Deus on this one. I think the cost savings is pretty negligible and for those who can afford a couple of bikes, I think the amounts due will hardly be of concern. Just my two cents! Cheers

[MR BIKER]

Guys, what I have been trying to say is big old bikes like 1500cc and above where the road taxes are stupidly priced because of its age. so for people like myself who want to ride on the weekends with a big HD, I can really save. Now for daily use , ensure you have another bike like 750cc or such.

[DeusExMachina]

Guys, what I have been trying to say is big old bikes like 1500cc and above where the road taxes are stupidly priced because of its age. so for people like myself who want to ride on the weekends with a big HD, I can really save. Now for daily use , ensure you have another bike like 750cc or such.

 

 

What was the road tax for bikes above 10 yr old?

10% per year up to a cap of 50%. So at most i pay 1.5 times the road tax.

 

Yr 1.5L Goldwing road tax is abt 484 a year. At max age, I pay 242 more a year in road tax.

That amounts to 20 bucks a month only. Save 20 bucks and I can't ride it as and when I want?

 

Seriously... what is the point???

[nullifi3d]

What was the road tax for bikes above 10 yr old?

10% per year up to a cap of 50%. So at most i pay 1.5 times the road tax.

 

Yr 1.5L Goldwing road tax is abt 484 a year. At max age, I pay 242 more a year in road tax.

That amounts to 20 bucks a month only. Save 20 bucks and I can't ride it as and when I want?

 

Seriously... what is the point???

 

Simply put, he wants to ride something expensive but cannot afford to.

 

Too bad, that's how life is.

[kinwei]

You also forget about cl2b bikes. Their overall cost is cheaper. If you peg the rebates to a cl2b, you will see minimal saving on a cl2. If you peg to a cl2, you will see alot of diff to a cl2b. If you say, the rebates only for cl2, then cl2b and cl2a bikers will be unhappy.

[MR BIKER]

That is why i stated old big bikes . of course in determining the amount, you can't equate the amount like car. obviously you wont get rebate of $17000. and therefore if i wish to use a OPB , then it should not be $20. its just an idea and a wonderment. in this system of ours, its always the rich who can afford. the rich surely can afford to maintain big bikes (repair & service ), and insurance and tax. while we can't surely save on the first 3 but for average people, a saving of the tax and rebate would be a great benefit to us who like big bikes but ride only for that occasional weekend ride.

[kinwei]

The reason why government increase the rd tax after ten years is for a reason. These vehicles are generally not as environment friendly as when they are newer. Hence a higher road tax to counter the carbon foot print. They want people to scrape the old vehicles so only the new and emission friendly vehicles are on the road. By giving rebates, it like contradicting themselves.

[DeusExMachina]

That is why i stated old big bikes . of course in determining the amount, you can't equate the amount like car. obviously you wont get rebate of $17000. and therefore if i wish to use a OPB , then it should not be $20. its just an idea and a wonderment. in this system of ours, its always the rich who can afford. the rich surely can afford to maintain big bikes (repair & service ), and insurance and tax. while we can't surely save on the first 3 but for average people, a saving of the tax and rebate would be a great benefit to us who like big bikes but ride only for that occasional weekend ride.

 

That is true. The rich can afford multiple houses, cars and bike.

 

The average can only afford a house. And perhaps a car, or a bike. The question I wanna ask you is:

If you already know you're in the "average" category, why would you want to own 2 bikes? Can't you just be content with one, or what you can afford?

[MR BIKER]

Personally I believe there several layers of average. just like there are several groups of rich people. some billionaires snob their noses away from even the millionaires. then you have the millionaires. i am only the lower category thousandnaire. can just spend abit on my hobby. if hobby bike spoilt still can afford to do repairs. so that extra saving on the tax would probably help to even the repair cost.

I have a op car. i put the same logic to a bike. while the car is family use, the bike is personal use on my spare time.

[DeusExMachina]

Bikes are already low cost. As already mentioned, even for something as big as a Goldwing, the difference in road tax between a 15 yr old and an under 10 yr old is very negligible. The road tax can't logically go down much further without impacting the smaller bike classes.

 

So seriously now, if you're really buggered about that 20 bucks more per month, then perhaps you should find another hobby.

 

How about MotoGP 2013 on Xbox or PS?

[keyxblade]

Bikes are already low cost. As already mentioned, even for something as big as a Goldwing, the difference in road tax between a 15 yr old and an under 10 yr old is very negligible. The road tax can't logically go down much further without impacting the smaller bike classes.

 

So seriously now, if you're really buggered about that 20 bucks more per month, then perhaps you should find another hobby.

 

How about MotoGP 2013 on Xbox or PS?

 

lol play hot wheels also not bad

[MR BIKER]

Kahkahkah. Got both games. Fed up already. Will never equal to riding and the joy of real biking