Most Important Corner in PG

[Wayang]

as per topic

[Raptor]

Turns 2 and 6.

 

Screw up on Turn 2 and you lose a lot of time and end up trying to make up the speed and momentum again for Turns 3, 4 and 5.

 

Screw up on Turn 6 and you lose out on Turns 7 and 8.

 

This is what I found out on the DRZ and Aprilia RS 125. Got to dare to hold the throttle wide open going through these 2 corners to build up speed and momentum to carry the bike through the rest.

 

May not be so critical for the bigger bikes coz they got the power to build up speed instantly... but on the smaller machines, I don't touch the brakes at PG except for the entry into BMW.

[Lion]

Last BMW corner... From the angle you approach, you can't see the corner.

 

Takes lots of time in track and experience to excel in that particular corner...

[ambasnakeman]

IMO, i think every turn is really critical.....its very easy to lose entry, corner and exit speed if u screw it up just a little.

 

for the flick at bmw exit(left) has to be done quite fast....and full bore......also risk rear wheel slide.......

 

entering turn 7 full bore(5th rider) signature.......and breaking and maintaining turn 8 requires alot of skill....remember, 8 going up slope.....takes longer to accelerate unless u have a good drive throughout

[Wayang]

its interesting readin the diff comments.. its obvious to diff riders diff corners r impt to them..

 

as per the topic.. i noe every corner is important but i'm sure there is always 1 or 2 corners tat everyone personally feel is esp important to get right..

[Tortise]

Originally posted by ambasnakeman@March 23, 2007 06:16 am

IMO, i think every turn is really critical.....its very easy to lose entry, corner and exit speed if u screw it up just a little.

 

for the flick at bmw exit(left) has to be done quite fast....and full bore......also risk rear wheel slide.......

 

entering turn 7 full bore(5th rider) signature.......and breaking and maintaining turn 8 requires alot of skill....remember, 8 going up slope.....takes longer to accelerate unless u have a good drive throughout

expert opinion...

[Pauche]

T12-ah-gong!

 

 

its home run for the chequered flag! its the corner u should put ur leg down and kick gibernau into the gravel for top podium!

[Leonard_35]

Originally posted by Pauche@March 23, 2007 10:07 am

T12-ah-gong!

 

 

its home run for the chequered flag! its the corner u should put ur leg down and kick gibernau into the gravel for top podium!

haha, make me laugh!! Nice one. REad through the 1st few detailed comments. Everyone sounded so focused. Then i start to picture and get serious till i read yours.

[daigo34]

i think 1st n d last corner is more important but tats doesn't mean d rest of d corner is not important. if u can get in n out of tis corner pretty well u can improve on ur timing coz tis 2 corner lead 2 a straight which mean u can hav higher top speed. juz 2 cent of my opinion.hope tis help.cheers

[Sub Zero]

Raptor,

 

You've ridden the rs125 before.. I need help entering Turn 7 & 8 and conquering BMW.

 

ANy pointers? What gear you go in, how you do it etc?

 

Thanx!

[spy622]

Originally posted by Pauche@March 23, 2007 10:07 am

T12-ah-gong!

 

 

its home run for the chequered flag! its the corner u should put ur leg down and kick gibernau into the gravel for top podium!

wrong itz turn 1.1..the corner leading u out of the pit into the second straight coz upon exiting the corner itz the start of fun

[Raptor]

Originally posted by Sub Zero@March 24, 2007 11:47 am

Raptor,

 

You've ridden the rs125 before.. I need help entering Turn 7 & 8 and conquering BMW.

 

ANy pointers? What gear you go in, how you do it etc?

 

Thanx!

It was quite sometime back in August last year when I had a chance to ride an Aprilia RS125 on PG.

 

I know on the short back straight before Turn 6 I would have picked up top gear as I come down the slope to enter Turn 6. Just before leaning into Turn 6 I would bang a gear down and hold it through the turn.

 

The bike will lose some speed in that corner and I would hold the throttle wide open coming out of Turn 6 and go for Turn 7, riding over the ripple strip and drop one gear and peel into Turn 8 with throttle wide open again.

 

Turn 8 to BMW is an upslope and if you don't drop a gear between 7 and 8, chances are you will lose alot of speed and time. To enter BMW correctly you will have to stay on the extreme left till as late as possible before flicking the bike into the right hander at BMW and try to stay on the right side as much as possible. Going in to early will only make you have a hard time taking the left hander coz you are too close too the left side of the track and will have to slow down like crazy or else you cannot take the left hander fast.

 

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o104/angelo_neo/IMG_6934.jpg

 

All I know is I could only do 2.07 on that stock standard RS125 and it only had a top speed of 152 KMH down the back straight. The bike was on loan to me to try out on the track so I did not do any mods on it.

 

But it handles like my CBR1000RR. Undeniably the best handling 2B bike I have ever ridden on the track.

 

PS - Picture needless to say, by courtesy of Lisan aka Saint21.

[Guest OFFICIAL]

For me it's turn 2 to 3. always can't make the turn well need advise.

[Tortise]

Originally posted by Raptor@March 24, 2007 04:34 pm

The bike will lose some speed in that corner and I would hold the throttle wide open coming out of Turn 6 and go for Turn 7, riding over the ripple strip and drop one gear and peel into Turn 8 with throttle wide open again.

[ambasnakeman]

Originally posted by OFFICIAL@March 24, 2007 05:34 pm

For me it's turn 2 to 3. always can't make the turn well need advise.

targeted speed at turn 2.....200 kmh................turn 3 almost u turn corner about 90++

[Tortise]

Originally posted by ambasnakeman@March 24, 2007 09:52 pm

targeted speed at turn 2.....200 kmh................turn 3 almost u turn corner about 90++

another expert opinion

[Tortise]

amba u forgot to mention - slide out of turn 3.

 

[Sub Zero]

Originally posted by Raptor@March 24, 2007 04:34 pm

It was quite sometime back in August last year when I had a chance to ride an Aprilia RS125 on PG.

 

I know on the short back straight before Turn 6 I would have picked up top gear as I come down the slope to enter Turn 6. Just before leaning into Turn 6 I would bang a gear down and hold it through the turn.

 

The bike will lose some speed in that corner and I would hold the throttle wide open coming out of Turn 6 and go for Turn 7, riding over the ripple strip and drop one gear and peel into Turn 8 with throttle wide open again.

 

Turn 8 to BMW is an upslope and if you don't drop a gear between 7 and 8, chances are you will lose alot of speed and time. To enter BMW correctly you will have to stay on the extreme left till as late as possible before flicking the bike into the right hander at BMW and try to stay on the right side as much as possible. Going in to early will only make you have a hard time taking the left hander coz you are too close too the left side of the track and will have to slow down like crazy or else you cannot take the left hander fast.

 

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o104/angelo_neo/IMG_6934.jpg

 

All I know is I could only do 2.07 on that stock standard RS125 and it only had a top speed of 152 KMH down the back straight. The bike was on loan to me to try out on the track so I did not do any mods on it.

 

But it handles like my CBR1000RR. Undeniably the best handling 2B bike I have ever ridden on the track.

 

PS - Picture needless to say, by courtesy of Lisan aka Saint21.

HI Raptor,

 

Thanx for your reply..

 

Just to sumarise, you enter Turn 6 at gear 5 after the downslope, and pull thru turn 6, take Turn 7 straight on and drop 1 gear for turn 8..

 

Hmm, for me, i going on the downslope towards turn 6 at gear 5, i take turn 6 at gear 4 at 10000RPM. Speed is abt 110-120 max. Cant go more.. I find tat uping to gear 5 in Turn 6 will make my bike too "smooth" and reduce the torque significantly. After tat i try to aim straight for Turn 7, still dragging in gear 4, and then closing throttle and braking just after Turn 7 and droping a gear just before Turn 8... So i'll be taking it in gear 3..

 

I find tat you're taking all the corners 1 gear higher than me. Maybe it's coz our bike setup is different. Your stock bike is using a 28mm carb while i am using a 34mm carb.. My mid range and high rpm could be stronger thus let me remain 1 gear lower than you.. just my opinion..

 

Any idea wat was your speed in turn 6? And eh, wat gear you were taking the BMW? Do you drop another gear when taking the left hander in BMW? I enter at gear 3 and drop 1 more gear for the left hander.. Also i always find my bike goping way too low there..

 

Thanks Raptor!

 

PS. I dont know if you remember, but you guided me on track once.. Long time ago... hehe..

[Guest OFFICIAL]

Originally posted by ambasnakeman@March 24, 2007 09:52 pm

targeted speed at turn 2.....200 kmh................turn 3 almost u turn corner about 90++

Noted. Try it next round

[ambasnakeman]

Originally posted by Slowpoke34@March 24, 2007 10:18 pm

amba u forgot to mention - slide out of turn 3.

 

that one only man on fire like u can do

[5thRider]

Originally posted by daigo34@March 23, 2007 11:35 pm

i think 1st n d last corner is more important but tats doesn't mean d rest of d corner is not important. if u can get in n out of tis corner pretty well u can improve on ur timing coz tis 2 corner lead 2 a straight which mean u can hav higher top speed. juz 2 cent of my opinion.hope tis help.cheers

Agreed. Possible to gain very much time, but mistake very hard to recover.

Most important corner is the fastest turn YOU are most confident at riding.

[PaLmEr]

turn 13.

[Wayang]

Originally posted by PaLmEr@March 25, 2007 09:19 pm

turn 13.

[ambasnakeman]

Originally posted by 5thRider@March 25, 2007 08:54 pm

Agreed. Possible to gain very much time, but mistake very hard to recover.

Most important corner is the fastest turn YOU are most confident at riding.

haiya....u slow down at turn 6 also nobody can keep up with u....i think that statement applies to others except u

[stroker]

Originally posted by 5thRider@March 25, 2007 08:54 pm

Most important corner is the fastest turn YOU are most confident at riding.

Dang! That's every corner in pg for you sir..