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I believe he is not a driver. If he were, I'll ride my GL1800 behind him one day with my highbeam on while he drive then he will appreciate it.

 

I think u misunderstand. And he is a driver as well. The highbeam only applies when lanesplitting in the daytime. Of course, we don't be guai lan and highbeam at drivers when we are behind them... That's just utterly rude, uncalled for, and hooligan attitude.

 

Think about it properly, if i am a lanesplitting bike with high beam, you're a driver on my right, only your right side mirror will get flashed, if u're on my left, then only your left get flashed, such is the narrow field of bike headlights. In any case, the flashing alerts you that there is oncoming vehicle on the side you are being flashed at, and yet, it does not blind, due to reasons already stated in previous posts.

 

You may be against highbeam as a driver, but dun forget that you are protected on all sides by metal. As a rider, we have to do what we deem suitable, within reason, to protect ourselves, and step one is to increase visibility.

 

If you are highbeaming others out of sheer anger or any other reasons other than safety, then i have nothing else to say.

RIDE.

 

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2015 - current : Honda CBR600RR

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Have you come across your mind that if there is a bike in front lane splitting too?

And what is the different you hi-beam behind the car at the center or the side? As you lane splitting, 2 cars will be affected, one at the left and one at the right.

I'm telling you as a driver, if someone on the hi-beam behind, I'll simply don't check the mirror. So if the driver don't check the mirror, you think it will be safer?

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Had to re-read a couple of times to understand that. :cool:

KRGT-1

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Have you come across your mind that if there is a bike in front lane splitting too?

And what is the different you hi-beam behind the car at the center or the side? As you lane splitting, 2 cars will be affected, one at the left and one at the right.

I'm telling you as a driver, if someone on the hi-beam behind, I'll simply don't check the mirror. So if the driver don't check the mirror, you think it will be safer?

 

Has it come across your mind that if there is a bike in front of me, then i wouldn't need to high beam? For 2 very simple reasons, firstly, as selfish as it sounds, he's my buffer now, it's up to him to make himself visible to the cars. Secondly, it's out of courtesy. It's the same reason why i follow other lanesplitting bikes at a safe distance, so not to pressure them, and give myself reaction time.

 

And since you're missing the whole point, so i'll just say it once and for all.

 

What i'm saying is that if i highbeam, while lanesplitting in the daytime, as the front most bike, i am providing advanced warning to any driver, through the flash in their right OR left mirror, and not bathing their whole vehicle in light. This increases my own visibility, so car drivers cannot say they don't see me, (although some will still say that when accident happen). Secondly, as i have also said, which you conveniently ignored for the sake of argument, bike's highbeam field is very narrow, it's not like that of a car. If i am 20m behind you to the left, firstly, you are blocked by the car behind, so you won't be flashed in any other mirrors except your left side one. Which once again, let me reiterate, will let you know that there's something coming on your left side. If you still choose to switch to left, suddenly and without signal, then pls let me know your licence plate number so i can stay far away from you. If you signal in advance, i'll slow down and off my highbeam and let you switch lanes safely before proceeding to lanesplit again, as i have said earlier, guess you conveniently forgot for the sake of argument again.

 

Has it also crossed your mind that if there is a flash on your left side mirror, it means that there's something there? So if you don't check mirror and insist on switching lanes, then whose fault?

 

By the way, have you personally experienced highbeam by a bike on your side in daylight? I think the sun is brighter fyi.

RIDE.

 

2012 - 2015: Honda NSR150SP

2015 - current : Honda CBR600RR

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Has it come across your mind that if there is a bike in front of me, then i wouldn't need to high beam? For 2 very simple reasons, firstly, as selfish as it sounds, he's my buffer now, it's up to him to make himself visible to the cars. Secondly, it's out of courtesy. It's the same reason why i follow other lanesplitting bikes at a safe distance, so not to pressure them, and give myself reaction time.

 

And since you're missing the whole point, so i'll just say it once and for all.

 

What i'm saying is that if i highbeam, while lanesplitting in the daytime, as the front most bike, i am providing advanced warning to any driver, through the flash in their right OR left mirror, and not bathing their whole vehicle in light. This increases my own visibility, so car drivers cannot say they don't see me, (although some will still say that when accident happen). Secondly, as i have also said, which you conveniently ignored for the sake of argument, bike's highbeam field is very narrow, it's not like that of a car. If i am 20m behind you to the left, firstly, you are blocked by the car behind, so you won't be flashed in any other mirrors except your left side one. Which once again, let me reiterate, will let you know that there's something coming on your left side. If you still choose to switch to left, suddenly and without signal, then pls let me know your licence plate number so i can stay far away from you. If you signal in advance, i'll slow down and off my highbeam and let you switch lanes safely before proceeding to lanesplit again, as i have said earlier, guess you conveniently forgot for the sake of argument again.

 

Has it also crossed your mind that if there is a flash on your left side mirror, it means that there's something there? So if you don't check mirror and insist on switching lanes, then whose fault?

 

By the way, have you personally experienced highbeam by a bike on your side in daylight? I think the sun is brighter fyi.

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Haha... Don't talk about hdb or hotels la... They can't even afford parking coupons la, need to park on the double yellow zig Zag line and obstruct traffic la.. Haha
u targetting car owners?/

then the car drivers will say , bikes also cant afford coupons some more 65 c whole day

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Has it come across your mind that if there is a bike in front of me, then i wouldn't need to high beam? For 2 very simple reasons, firstly, as selfish as it sounds, he's my buffer now, it's up to him to make himself visible to the cars. Secondly, it's out of courtesy. It's the same reason why i follow other lanesplitting bikes at a safe distance, so not to pressure them, and give myself reaction time.

 

And since you're missing the whole point, so i'll just say it once and for all.

 

What i'm saying is that if i highbeam, while lanesplitting in the daytime, as the front most bike, i am providing advanced warning to any driver, through the flash in their right OR left mirror, and not bathing their whole vehicle in light. This increases my own visibility, so car drivers cannot say they don't see me, (although some will still say that when accident happen). Secondly, as i have also said, which you conveniently ignored for the sake of argument, bike's highbeam field is very narrow, it's not like that of a car. If i am 20m behind you to the left, firstly, you are blocked by the car behind, so you won't be flashed in any other mirrors except your left side one. Which once again, let me reiterate, will let you know that there's something coming on your left side. If you still choose to switch to left, suddenly and without signal, then pls let me know your licence plate number so i can stay far away from you. If you signal in advance, i'll slow down and off my highbeam and let you switch lanes safely before proceeding to lanesplit again, as i have said earlier, guess you conveniently forgot for the sake of argument again.

 

Has it also crossed your mind that if there is a flash on your left side mirror, it means that there's something there? So if you don't check mirror and insist on switching lanes, then whose fault?

 

By the way, have you personally experienced highbeam by a bike on your side in daylight? I think the sun is brighter fyi.

 

I'd personally experienced many times that a bike approaching from from behind from the side with high beam. And believed me, If I'm not a rider myself, probably I'll deliberately close up the gap to prevent him from lane splitting.

Probably you would like to visit mycarforum to check what are the reaction of other car drivers in this issue.

 

And I also experience other riders not as "NICE" as you to switch to low beam when approaching other bikers. He only switched to low beam when I deliberately trailing behide him with high beam..

 

Btw, the guide line fro using headlight in Singapore is :"

beam of light emitted by a headlamp, being a beam which is deflected downwards or both downwards and to the left to such an extent that it is at all times incapable of dazzling any person who is on the same horizontal plane as the vehicle at a greater distance than 7.5 metres from the lamp and whose eye-level is not less than one metre above that plane"

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I'd personally experienced many times that a bike approaching from from behind from the side with high beam. And believed me, If I'm not a rider myself, probably I'll deliberately close up the gap to prevent him from lane splitting.

Probably you would like to visit mycarforum to check what are the reaction of other car drivers in this issue.

 

And I also experience other riders not as "NICE" as you to switch to low beam when approaching other bikers. He only switched to low beam when I deliberately trailing behide him with high beam..

 

Btw, the guide line fro using headlight in Singapore is :"

beam of light emitted by a headlamp, being a beam which is deflected downwards or both downwards and to the left to such an extent that it is at all times incapable of dazzling any person who is on the same horizontal plane as the vehicle at a greater distance than 7.5 metres from the lamp and whose eye-level is not less than one metre above that plane"

 

I hardly think that a stock SP's highbeam is dazzling in the daytime light. Unless you're talking about PJY's aftermarket HID lights. (Sorry bro PJY, u're the easiest accessible example! :cheeky:)

 

And guidelines, while helpful at times, are mainly written by the same type of people who don't really understand that 2-stroke bikes emit white smoke. Nothing against them, it's just inconvenience, which will be solved once i get my super4.

 

As for NICE or not nice, whether driver, biker, cyclists or pilots, all got their black sheep. Personally, i feel that you have been on the receiving end of such behaviour from some black sheep biker before, thus your buay songness at them.

 

As for your closing up to prevent lanesplitting, whether in action or thoughts only, is somewhat worrying lah. Actions stem from thoughts. If one day someone really push you, then you close in and accidentally bang him cos he never anticipate you can't be push, then how? Everyone got a limit lah. Someday yours will be reached, just as mine. But as much as we can, try not to entertain such thoughts lor. I forgive, you forgive, i let, u let, in the end the world will be better place lah. Eye for eye, makes the world blind.

 

Anyways, i accept your points, but i will still use the highbeam tactic, according to my own "NICE" guidelines. If you see my SP on the roads, please don't squeeze me and dun let me lanesplit okie? I won't purposely karjiao one. No time for that cos usually late for work or going home for dinner, hungry after work lah...

RIDE.

 

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2015 - current : Honda CBR600RR

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sorry no low beam today

bulb blew

can only highbeam all the way

on the bright side, my house is only 4km away from my workplace so can just go home and change bulb later

u need to be young and reckless to become old and wise..... if u survive :angel:

 

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Lets clear this...are we able to use the method where you go 1st lane with right signal on to warn ppl that you are speeding and in an emergency? As in other countries its done in that way to warn other road users....

 

In Malaysia, u can do this and they'll give way to u... In Singapore, they'll just ignore and continue in the right lane without giving way...

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High beam is supposed to warn others that a vehicle is approaching from their blind spot. Especially when you're traveling at 90-100km/h on lane 1 and there's a car on lane 2 going about the same speed. If you're overtaking him, just a passing high beam to let him know you're coming wouldn't hurt... I do that most of the time... Wouldn't want myself to get into anymore accidents do I? That's why there's a pass switch on your left handlebar... It's not there for fun, it's there for a reason...

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Agreed with you but not at blind spot lah.

Nobody can see you from the blind spot lei.

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Agreed with you but not at blind spot lah.

Nobody can see you from the blind spot lei.

 

Car everywhere also blind spot ma... I'm directly in front of the car also can bang me and say never see me... -.- all drivers blind la... Hahaa

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Lol ok la... Joking only... About 10 car length behind the car on lane 2, I'll flash high beam on lane 1 to let him know I'm coming through fast... Not once, maybe twice or thrice... Like that they got no excuse to "never see my high beam" when I flash 3 times... -.-

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Lets clear this...are we able to use the method where you go 1st lane with right signal on to warn ppl that you are speeding and in an emergency? As in other countries its done in that way to warn other road users....

 

it will never work locally. i personally asked my local frens who are driving or riding and majority of them dunno abt this. i also asked my msian frens and colleagues and they do know abt this

 

See more and more people doing this in NSHW. Usually to signal the road hogger in front. Probably it is a good idea.

But some die hard road hogger don't bother what ever method you use; signal, hi-beam, horn... they simply bo chap.

 

usually it works in msia and on msia-plated vehicles but not on sg-plated vehicles. i always see sg-plated vehicles getting overtake dangerously by msia vehicles on NSHW despite the high-beam, horn, signal, etc.

 

High beam is supposed to warn others that a vehicle is approaching from their blind spot. Especially when you're traveling at 90-100km/h on lane 1 and there's a car on lane 2 going about the same speed. If you're overtaking him, just a passing high beam to let him know you're coming wouldn't hurt... I do that most of the time... Wouldn't want myself to get into anymore accidents do I? That's why there's a pass switch on your left handlebar... It's not there for fun, it's there for a reason...

 

not all bikes comes with the passing switch.. need to flip the low/high beam switch up and down

18/10/07 - 19/08/08 : Honda NSR150 SP

21/08/08 - 24/09/09 : Honda Wave S 125

02/10/09 - 22/02/12 : Yamaha X1-R

09/04/12 - 13/02/15 : Kawasaki Ninja 250R

24/12/14 - 24/02/16 : Honda Wave R 125

29/06/16 : Honda MSX 125

 

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Dunno about the new teaching by the driving instructors now..

I got my license when the police was still wearing shorts..lol. Just joking. At that time, I turned my head to check blind spot, the instructor will knocked my head and shouted at me to use the side mirrors....

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I hardly think that a stock SP's highbeam is dazzling in the daytime light. Unless you're talking about PJY's aftermarket HID lights. (Sorry bro PJY, u're the easiest accessible example! :cheeky:)

 

And guidelines, while helpful at times, are mainly written by the same type of people who don't really understand that 2-stroke bikes emit white smoke. Nothing against them, it's just inconvenience, which will be solved once i get my super4.

 

As for NICE or not nice, whether driver, biker, cyclists or pilots, all got their black sheep. Personally, i feel that you have been on the receiving end of such behaviour from some black sheep biker before, thus your buay songness at them.

 

As for your closing up to prevent lanesplitting, whether in action or thoughts only, is somewhat worrying lah. Actions stem from thoughts. If one day someone really push you, then you close in and accidentally bang him cos he never anticipate you can't be push, then how? Everyone got a limit lah. Someday yours will be reached, just as mine. But as much as we can, try not to entertain such thoughts lor. I forgive, you forgive, i let, u let, in the end the world will be better place lah. Eye for eye, makes the world blind.

 

Anyways, i accept your points, but i will still use the highbeam tactic, according to my own "NICE" guidelines. If you see my SP on the roads, please don't squeeze me and dun let me lanesplit okie? I won't purposely karjiao one. No time for that cos usually late for work or going home for dinner, hungry after work lah...

 

Who the hell put HID on 2B?

Posted

just use what works for you.

 

i am sticking with the hi beam on in daytime while lanesplitting simply because it works. doesn't matter what others think. i have never been cussed at, or had cars "closing gap" when i was lanesplitting. more often than not, they move aside to let me pass!

 

 

anyways, there was an accident today on ECP towards changi before Marina Bay, think the rider skid or something,pillion was able to walk away but rider lying on floor. Didn't managed to catch what happened as I was going back home after work around 6pm. Seems like rider skid or something.

 

The rider also wasn't wearing gear. makes you wonder if he was wearing at least a FF and armoured jacket, would he be able to walk away?

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doesnt work here. tried and tested.

was in a real emergency to rush down to and accident site when my i got a call by my buddy at 4am saying he got into a really bad accident with his legs trapped in the car and is in great pain. rushed down cte as fast as i can and i tried the right signal, the highbeam and the horns. non works with the local drivers i encountered on that trip.

 

Local drivers are tards, at least 40% of them, for every 10, you'll find 4 idiots and got chance 3 of them are aunties, just kidding. The only language terribad local drivers understand is being overtaken aggressively and given the finger, lai stop one side la, 99% they won't stop, just show their tu lei lo mo face.

Posted
Who the hell put HID on 2B?

 

pardon me, but i did. fitted on my x1-r to be used as high beam and on NSHW. i rarely use it because the HID drained too much battery

18/10/07 - 19/08/08 : Honda NSR150 SP

21/08/08 - 24/09/09 : Honda Wave S 125

02/10/09 - 22/02/12 : Yamaha X1-R

09/04/12 - 13/02/15 : Kawasaki Ninja 250R

24/12/14 - 24/02/16 : Honda Wave R 125

29/06/16 : Honda MSX 125

 

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Dunno about the new teaching by the driving instructors now..

I got my license when the police was still wearing shorts..lol. Just joking. At that time, I turned my head to check blind spot, the instructor will knocked my head and shouted at me to use the side mirrors....

Back then there were also signs stating motorcycles to always be on the left lane. :rolleyes:

 

 

Local drivers are tards, at least 40% of them, for every 10, you'll find 4 idiots and got chance 3 of them are aunties, just kidding. The only language terribad local drivers understand is being overtaken aggressively and given the finger, lai stop one side la, 99% they won't stop, just show their tu lei lo mo face.
I concur. :cool:

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Posted
pardon me, but i did. fitted on my x1-r to be used as high beam and on NSHW. i rarely use it because the HID drained too much battery
hid drained battery? got meh
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Today while riding to work and lanesplitting, so many drivers tried to kill me.

 

Taxi swerve from the left lane to the right lane because driver looking at passenger to talk instead of focusing on road. Driver digging nose and looking at rear view mirror to check his nostril and swerve in from my right side. BMW driver playing candy crush on phone and just change lane with no signal no check mirror etc, squeezing into a space barely big enough for his car, causing car that he cut to e-brake and swerve left, which nearly hit me. Merc driver drinking coffee and swerving left and right as she pick up and put down the cup. But champion one went to a black honda jazz driver. he was in lane 2, i was in lane 1, side by side. saw his head slumped slightly and he was inching into my lane. I gently tapped my horn, no reaction. I press horn for one second, and he suddenly shocked awake and swerved wildly to the left then right again to regain control. Yup, that's right, the feller fell asleep at the wheel...

 

Heng i never lanesplit above 60kmph. If not when such things happen, can't brake in time safely. And just in case anyone complain i lanesplit slow and block other riders, i do move one side if i see someone faster behind me. =D

RIDE.

 

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2015 - current : Honda CBR600RR

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