Are MOTO GP bikes like our regular 1000cc bikes?

[lo-on]

Dear rastus,

 

those MOTOGP bikes can and never will be the same as on the road bikes due to the following reasons:

 

1) GP bikes are purely for race

2) due to reason 1, the HP of the rear wheel itself can easily hit at least 180HP at the rear wheel and above

3) due to reason 2, the GP bikes are very light

4) lightness is due to materials used to make the engine parts and therefore wear and tear faster and durability is not there.

5) headlights, signal lights which are for safety purposes are not found in GP bikes

6) noise levels are a big problem to residents

7) pricing is another main factor

8) local laws would not want racers everywhere they go

 

disclaimer: the following reasons are purely based on my own personal understandings. Any info or other points which are left out or are wrong is not liable for any lawsuit or to be used as evidence in court

[bernardk]

Thats the different between the GP racers and Street Racers...

[rastus]

hey guys!

thanks for all the replies(: This has increase my knowledge of sportsbikes alot.

tks lo-on for the breakdown of details. I guess the chances of anyone ever being able to ride such bikes are one in a billion huh..

thanks for the information!

[carbine]

the noise level, the maintainence, the price, the FC, the weight, the tires they use, the fuel they require, the handling, the Power to Weight ratio is all better den our heavily mod 1000cc or 1300cc superbikes.

[KeraKing]

lets just say 250cc Gp Bikes weight around 100kg n can go over 270km/h.

[dyno_88]

I only know that Casey Stoner's new Ducati GP9 is using carbon fibre chasis for this year. hahahahaha

[ZeroKenshin]

they can pump up more than 100km on their First gear~ but they have a slower pick up than our regular street bikes as they are all set to rich fuel intake to rock and roll at top speeds =D

 

but non the less... no modern MotoGP bikes is able to match the unbeatable V4 NSR500 back then =)

[ZeroKenshin]

lets just say 250cc Gp Bikes weight around 100kg n can go over 270km/h.

 

not quite true, just abt 240 or 250~ from what i found out~

[fufu]

Hi,

 

i'd like to find out if bikes used in motogp/racing are like the regular r1 or cbr1000rr. In terms of the speed and hp. cause motogp bikes can reach 100km/h within gear 2 right? just wondering if the normal ones on our roads can.

 

question answered already

Edited September 9, 2009 by fufu
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[Wayang]

btw.. everyone shld check out isle of man tt races.. tats some crazy ****.. those who r not sure.. search it on youtube..

[SlowButSteady Bro]

MotoGP is like F1 for cars.Their 125cc alone can hit 200kmh without problems.

[Anakin7744]

MotoGP is like F1 for cars.Their 125cc alone can hit 200kmh without problems.

 

chk tis web out u will noe better about GP bike spec.

 

http://www.highrevs.net/motogp-bikes/yamaha/yamaha-yzr-m1-2008.php

 

GP bike is totally diff frm normal bike....

[SlowButSteady Bro]

chk tis web out u will noe better about GP bike spec.

 

http://www.highrevs.net/motogp-bikes/yamaha/yamaha-yzr-m1-2008.php

 

GP bike is totally diff frm normal bike....

 

 

Thanks but i know GP bikes tech(Past till now) since i was a teenager.Pass my bike licence in 94..

[Metal_Heart]

I read somewhere that, modern GP machines produce about 220hp. And weight less then 200kg. That more then 1000hp per tonne.

[mild_slevin]

scary facts on MotoGP

[Guapo]

Difference between Moto GP bikes and Productions bikes = Stickers !

[BLACK COMET]

I feel that they are the same.

 

Just diff in the state of tune. and add on parts. Thus the diff in performance figure.

 

Production road legal bike we all know lah.

 

Must be lasting, Last 10 years or more in normal riding

 

must meet emission law. this one we all know.

 

Must be Fuel efficient. If a r1 is 13km/l I think no one will buy

 

GP bike on the other hand, Their main concern is win races.

 

GP bike suspension is not the stock ones. even if it's ohlins, it's a special super tuned version for race.

 

Engine. Likely to be stock. It's is likely to be tune towards the lean side for max power.

The lean side is almost to the end. Lean enough to produce max power. But still enough to last a season. Not the lean until open throttle, 100 meter. Valve melt, piston jam type

So diff in carb or ECU.

 

Gears, valve and pistons. likely to have slight changes from stock. Likely slight diff in dimension and material. Lightest available but again strong enough to last a season.

Clutch non need to say lah. same story.

 

Exhaust. This straight forward. Maximum race type.

 

brakes, disc. carbon type. Need to warm up before working properly. extremely expensive. Totally not possible for normal road use.

 

Other stuff will be removing all trhe unneccessary stuff that is not needed to save weight. Leg sets, handle bar all maximium lightness.

 

Now. In summary. The bikes between GP and prodcution is same and different at the same time.

 

WE can make our road bike to be gp standard. Provided we have connection for the parts and a super big bank account. Best if you own a oil well.

Also this gp bike. It's pretty hard to ride in SG without summon from TP. and hard to avoid crashes cos our normal traffic is not enough to warm up the brakes.

 

And maybe every few days, u will need to change parts like what the GP bikes do.

 

Also the GP bike suspensions. Ride in SG road. Don't think it will be comfortable

[natgw]

Must be Fuel efficient. If a r1 is 13km/l I think no one will buy

 

:confused::confused:

[Guapo]

WE can make our road bike to be gp standard. Provided we have connection for the parts and a super big bank account. Best if you own a oil well.

 

If i own a oil well....u think i want to mod my road bike to be a gp standard meh ?

[Running_Man]

I feel that they are the same....

Now. In summary. The bikes between GP and prodcution is same and different at the same time.

 

Your post damn contradicting man!

 

Seriously if they were to pump 3 million into R&D and parts, do you think it will be the same as your 20k R1? Or maybe just slightly faster than your standard r1?

 

Simple logic dictates that it's not possible. If it was they would have wasted their 3 million.

[AkalaPovic]

I read somewhere that, modern GP machines produce about 220hp. And weight less then 200kg. That more then 1000hp per tonne.

 

I believe the weight is much less than 200kg, somewhere along 150 to 160kg at most.. Consider the fact that a 08 cbr1 is 199kg fully loaded and a cbr6 is abt 180kg fully loaded.

[IvikaRazI]

To make it short

 

 

 

"The motorcycles used in MotoGP are purpose-built, purebred racing bikes - ‘prototypes’ - which are not available for purchase by the general public and cannot be legally ridden on public roads." taken from http://www.motogp.com/en/MotoGP+Basics/bikes

 

 

 

Hope that clears everything hahha. Can read more at the link provided.

 

The power of Googling.............

Edited August 10, 2010 by IvikaRazI

[Metal_Heart]

I believe the weight is much less than 200kg, somewhere along 150 to 160kg at most.. Consider the fact that a 08 cbr1 is 199kg fully loaded and a cbr6 is abt 180kg fully loaded.

 

Yea bro, after researching I found that most GP bikes weight around the area you said. So even after including the weight of a 50-55kg rider. Their power to weight ratio is still mind boggling

 

Amazing machines that requires amazing skill to control with such precision

 

Btw thats a beautiful blade in your sig. ^_^

[BLACK COMET]

LOlz.

 

Hard to explain my perspectives.

 

Maybe to summarised. MotoGP bike = stock but with tons of soup up parts and addons.

 

Some parts may or may not be available.

 

This also Depends on models and brand of GP bikes.

 

Also Regarding the oil well expression. All I can say is speed and power needs $. How much u are willing to fork out.

[DM]

what stock? even the basic thing like the frame and swingarm is different already. motogp bikes have no similarities to production bikes apart from the fact they are both motorcycles. i think you are confused with WSBK bikes, those are heavily modded production bikes.