Can i report to authorities for someone who selling Arai Replica helmet?

[sLapshock]

There's alot of Arai Replica out there, Crank mostly.

Edited April 26, 2011 by sLapshock

[mechwira]

ok. no freakin way would i ever put on those helmets. those are counterfeits. and like i said earlier, who knows exactly how/where those helmets were made. buy a givi/m-fizz or watever cheap brand open face, and pay up to $100 for someone to spray those graphics. thats a heck of a lot safer.

[mechwira]

btw, wif regards your original question, if this was sold in singapore, then yes the authorities would take action coz it counts as counterfeit goods. just like handbags and wallets, sell those counterfeit items and u will get arrested.

 

but if this was sold in m'sia, then like someone else rightfully said, our s'pore authorities wouldn give a toss. and the m'sian authorities? heres a picture of a signboard i took while visiting Petaling Street, which is infamous for being a huge stretch of backstreet stalls all selling counterfeit goods.

 

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/6305/img0851lq.jpg

 

translated, it reads "The sale of counterfeit goods are prohibited". in the middle of a long stretch of backstreet, crammed full of stalls all selling counterfeit goods. u wanna report the fake arai to the m'sian authorities?

[LoganLee]

Pay for the safety and quality. Not the looks.

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

I thought of a problem - there should be ways to tell the replica/counterfeit from the original Arai product. Do consumers actually check the DOT, snell etc markings if/when presented with one of these? What if the shop claims its genuine Arai because of the identical looks and logo and thinks it can get away with it?

 

Because who knows, some unscrupulous businesspersons can and may market the fake Arais as "genuine" products locally and those unaware of the replicas would pay a huge premium for a lousy helmet (and maybe lose their lives in an accident due to substandard protection). If there's no big "replica" label on the helmet, an untrained eye might take it for real.

 

Persons new to bikes may be vulnerable to the above scams. The people who are commenting here of course, know how to pick the genuine over the fake, but out in the street? Just a thought.

[mechwira]

I thought of a problem - there should be ways to tell the replica/counterfeit from the original Arai product. Do consumers actually check the DOT, snell etc markings if/when presented with one of these? What if the shop claims its genuine Arai because of the identical looks and logo and thinks it can get away with it?

 

Because who knows, some unscrupulous businesspersons can and may market the fake Arais as "genuine" products locally and those unaware of the replicas would pay a huge premium for a lousy helmet (and maybe lose their lives in an accident due to substandard protection). If there's no big "replica" label on the helmet, an untrained eye might take it for real.

 

Persons new to bikes may be vulnerable to the above scams. The people who are commenting here of course, know how to pick the genuine over the fake, but out in the street? Just a thought.

 

i'm not too concerned with shops. in general, shops wont risk selling counterfeits, and the authorities do take action. i think generally its safe enough to buy from shops.

 

i'm more concerned with private sellers. say a conman buys these replicas from across causway. he puts up thread in garage sales. "Hi, bought this arai helmet but selling them off because bought wrong size. Only worn once. Original price S$700 from , selling them here at S$550."

 

there we go. S$400 con job profit. victim happily wears what he believes to be a good deal.

[antartica]

oh no... replica Arai...

this will cause what's known as a divide by zero error in the motorcycling community!

all classes of bikes will immediately lose 50% of their capacities and weight and increase torque and horse power by 500%

 

you better call the interpol quick!

before someone's 35cc kup hits 400bhp!!!

he may land up on the dark side of the moon!

[sLapshock]

even the replica have snell, yeah, pay for the safety.

[mechwira]

even the replica have snell, yeah, pay for the safety.

 

you do realize the counterfeit's snell sticker is a fake and that the counterfeit is not really snell-certified.

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

is it against the rule in singapore to sell replica?

 

To answer this question - grey area here. On one hand retailers are supposed to abide by certain rules. However until the issue is brought to light before the authorities and proven to affect public safety the replicas will continue to be brought in under cover of said grey areas.

 

The deceptively similar design, logo and especially fake Snell certification can be deemed a hazard. These replicas are -too- good as Mechwira mentioned, they could be employed by the dishonest to make a quick buck at the expense of a junior rider who is less experienced and can't detect the "replica". They're all well and good until someone crashes with it and oh dear, Arai gets a bad name thanks to someone's fake product labelling and faux Snell sticker!

 

If TS is really concerned, suggest make a friendly inquiry to the authorities and explain the various issues raised in this thread. I seriously think that with the very competitive budget fullface helmet promos we all love, there is no need to bring in such products to spoil the market.

 

Someone should do a crash test with a budget HJC CL-ST and then do the same test to one of these replicas. Post online and everyone can see for themselves the danger of counterfeiting such basic but important gear as branded helmets.

[sLapshock]

But what about those fakes that undergo SIRIM certification?

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Whoa, I will seriously have nothing to say if SIRIM goes and certifies the fakes along with equally fake SNELL stickers!

 

Shouldn't they know better? (Malaysian PSB). Later we start seeing PSB stickers on these things. Lol.

 

I think it looks like it's up to SBF to save the day

[spaiduhz]

impressive counterfeit. not a perfect copy, but impressive none the less. I could be out of the loop, but shouldn't the safety sticker read DOT/SNELL instead of Arai/SNELL? Face shield also has the ventilation lids misaligned with the helmet intake, and I notice a lack of locking mechanism.

 

Also, I noticed you bought one for yourself? How is the fit? Same snug fit without relying on excess padding, like the originals?

[mechwira]

Whoa, I will seriously have nothing to say if SIRIM goes and certifies the fakes along with equally fake SNELL stickers!

 

Shouldn't they know better? (Malaysian PSB). Later we start seeing PSB stickers on these things. Lol.

 

I think it looks like it's up to SBF to save the day

 

yah man, if it is genuinely SIRIM certified, and not a fake SIRIM sticker, i raise my hands surrender. that means it is somewhat properly made (rather than from recycled styrofoam boxes or something), and wouldn be any less safe than the cheap but 'proper' low-end brand helmets. but again, it still wouldn be anywhere near as top-quality as a genuine arai. no way. and the SNELL is confirmed fake. i personally feel arai is overpriced at $700 for an open face and $1k for a full face, but no way could anybody produce their level of quality and sell it off at RM350.

 

so assuming the SIRIM label is genuine (making it the only genuine label on the helmet), then sure trust it if u want. then again, must also assume the helmet was genuinely tested by SIRIM and not a certificate obtained by 'kopi money'. and since must make so many assumptions, i still wouldn touch that helmet with a ten-foot pole.

 

but i doubt PSB would ever certify such a helmet. one good thing is our authorities are dam kiasu with legality. no way would they knowingly test and certify (assuming it does pass) a counterfeit helmet. if they did, they would need to prove that they did not know the helmets were counterfeit, and be able to turn around and arrest the seller for submitting counterfeit helmets for certification. and kopi money obviously wont cut it.

[niteblade]

what you pay is what you get, the rizoma replica's are a ***** to fit onto the bike and its very uncomfortable with long distances. im not sure how the original fairs, but it definately feels much better to me when i touch it

[kelapa]

Hi,

 

I came across a seller who is selling Arai Crank Replica, Arai Nakano Sakura (Taiwanese replica) and Arai Samurai (Taiwanese Replica).

 

This Arai is replica and very identical to the original but at almost 60% cheaper, is it against the rule in singapore to sell replica?

 

I saw the crank replica very nice selling for RM165 only!!!! But again it's buyer discrection to trade off safety with fakes.

Not everyone can afford the genuine one bro

Only the user will know what he's using

[LoganLee]

Real Arai helmets are very comfortable.

Rode for hours without problem.

[kuwaiyert]

So how to tell if it is genuine..? From the padding or weight..? if bought from chiap lee can say its genuine right?

[swiftee]

i wore arai original, but its abit heartpain to see an identical replica that cost 60% cheaper.

 

why? u trust putting ur head in a replica helmet?

i thot ppl buy arai because of the quality, nt for others to see?

 

buy from distributor la e.g. chiap lee

actually i am very suspicious of those ppl who stated "arai helmet, worn once FS"

pls la... u buy a helmet so ex and then u want to sell it off after one time meh...

where got such good deal

[papabread79]

Good what having replica. Important.

[mild_slevin]

 

i'm more concerned with private sellers. say a conman buys these replicas from across causway. he puts up thread in garage sales. "Hi, bought this arai helmet but selling them off because bought wrong size. Only worn once. Original price S$700 from , selling them here at S$550."

 

there we go. S$400 con job profit. victim happily wears what he believes to be a good deal.

 

that's very very wicked... buyer in a great disadvantage if he/she lack of product knowledge.

[Demon]

Is the product using the same logo and licensed by Arai Helmets?

 

If the answer is no then the manufacturer of the replicas are risking class action lawsuits.

 

 

 

Class action against the imitation Arai maker ?

 

I don't think you understand the meaning of class action.

[Demon]

Hi,

 

I came across a seller who is selling Arai Crank Replica, Arai Nakano Sakura (Taiwanese replica) and Arai Samurai (Taiwanese Replica).

 

This Arai is replica and very identical to the original but at almost 60% cheaper, is it against the rule in singapore to sell replica?

 

For such copyright infringement, the original manufacturer or the local agent, through it's own investigative works, must present to the police with overwhelming evidence to authorise a raid. It's a very lengthy and expensive process and the outcome may not justify the effort however there are some companies, like Microsoft will go through heaven and hell to defend their brand and intellectual property rights at any cost.

 

However, what you can do is to write directly to ARAI, and report to them what you know.

 

[revospeed]

I understanf how TS feel.

Well, I wont feel heartpain if I see an Arai replica

cause we all know the Arai we used are much more safer than those.

I feel heartpain when I see a Crank replica cause i always wanted to own one.

I dont want people to have the first impression that we own a Crank replica.

It's like people giving the impression of a young guy owning a LV wallet.

I guess you guys know what I meant

[Zai TZM]

Sometimes it's better to be not kAypo.. As long as we know we use the original ones can already..