Cdc class 2a (2014)

Jestino · June 23, 2016

What few more weeks?? 2 more weeks left to D-Day mate!

2a is quite a different feeling frm 2b. 2b i felt very confident but I had a certain pressure (I must die die do it). But now I dont have that pressure cos even if fail (touch wood) I still hv my 2b & that is still the most important thing for now. But thats not to say that i dont wanna pass. I want to & I'll try my hardest, but failure wont bother me. It would bother me lots during 2b tho! haha... Am I making sense to you?

Overall Im pretty confident abt all the obstacles except bumpy. So hopefully I can avoid bikes 142, 147 & 148 as they stall a lot. If not I would jus 'zoom' across & do a 5 sec 1 & gv away 4 pts. The best bumpy bikes (for me) are 149 & 150, will make it 9/11 tries. 147 & 149 will make it abt 6-7/12 -not a v good stat there.

I take it youre now waiting for test now?

Sadly, you can't choose your bike for TP:( The instructor will prep any bike infront for you during the real test.

And yeah those bikes always stall even when you dont release your clutch. I stall thrice when stationary during TP. HAHAHAHAHA!

anyway all the best for your D-Day mate.

Stealth123 · June 23, 2016

What few more weeks?? 2 more weeks left to D-Day mate!

2a is quite a different feeling frm 2b. 2b i felt very confident but I had a certain pressure (I must die die do it). But now I dont have that pressure cos even if fail (touch wood) I still hv my 2b & that is still the most important thing for now. But thats not to say that i dont wanna pass. I want to & I'll try my hardest, but failure wont bother me. It would bother me lots during 2b tho! haha... Am I making sense to you?

Overall Im pretty confident abt all the obstacles except bumpy. So hopefully I can avoid bikes 142, 147 & 148 as they stall a lot. If not I would jus 'zoom' across & do a 5 sec 1 & gv away 4 pts. The best bumpy bikes (for me) are 149 & 150, will make it 9/11 tries. 147 & 149 will make it abt 6-7/12 -not a v good stat there.

I take it youre now waiting for test now?

Heh heh... Yeh, I know what U mean. Last time 2b dun pass - cannot ride. Dun pass 2a not the same impact.

I took 147 on my first lesson 3. It was raining.. I stalled and stalled... Ended up with 4 immediate failures!

Yeh currently waiting for test. Mine is exactly a month after yours...

jbdoggy · June 28, 2016

@Jestino. Thanks mate. I need all the luck I can get on that day. Didnt hv a good cr session today. 1st half ok, 2nd half bike kept stalling all the time for bumpy. Bike 145.

Looks like i have to abandon my blipping method. Going to try clutch slightly less then biting point, constant throttle (2-3k revs) & rear brake play next, or even ride the rear brake. Jus that i kno there are maybe abt 2 bikes the rear brake is almost gone! haha...

@Stealth123 All the best mate! Practice practice practice!

jbdoggy · July 8, 2016

Passed my test today!

All the best to those taking test in the coming weeks!

Stealth123 · July 8, 2016

Passed my test today!

All the best to those taking test in the coming weeks!

Hey!! Congrats!!! Any weak spots?

Did you get to choose a bike? Pray say YES.. Hahahahhahahahaha

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jbdoggy · July 8, 2016

Hey!! Congrats!!! Any weak spots?
Did you get to choose a bike? Pray say YES.. Hahahahhahahahaha

Thks. Weak spots?? You mean where I had demerits is it?

Kena 4+2 at blindwall junction at the very start -forgot to chk bk right & delay in moving off (jus cos i decided to wait for a car on the left & 1 at filter lane coming in to pass. moved off only when i saw them like slowing down). Just remember rule of thumb - abt 3 or more car lengths away, its ok to go (aftr judging their speed, of course).

4pts - failure to chk traffic at crank exit. I saw nothing but Mr Bahtera said there was. But key point is that just a cursory glance is not good enough. Need to take some time to double confirm. So turn your head more & look to your right that wee bit longer. (dont forget the front also tho!) In any case you ought to be slowing down already there....so plenty of time for all scans!

4 pts - wobbling when changing lane. Either after crank exit moving to right lane or when moving back into left lane aftr the f8 queue. I really dunno. I didnt even kno i wobbled. But there was this 1 uncle who lane split past us while I was in queue! He failed!

2 pts - wobbling during start/stopping at slope. Its either cos when i stopped the front very slightly dived (not smooth enough) or when i did my hill start the bike went a slight bit left. Jus remember a front dive when stopping is counted as a wobble.

But all in all from this experience & my 2b - expect the unexpected. You may catch yourself doing certain mistakes/lapses & think other parts are ok, but results will show you being caught in parts that you thought were ok & your supposed mistakes are not caught or only 1-2 are actually caught.

& yes.... you get to choose your bike. The bikes are all laid out for you. just choose whatever is there for you. I chose that 1 lonely 1 at the back of the pack (144). 1 of my faves!

There are abt 10 2a bikes. So if youre one of the older testees, you jus come back & park bike in the ctr of the nursery for the remaing younger testees. Instructor in charge will motion to you as you come in.

25 of us testees in total. 12 cl2 & 13 2a. 22/25 passed.

Number of rounds of warmups i think is subject to who the instructor in charge is. I had Mr Bahtera for both my 2b &2a tests. So 2 rounds of warm up. I had mates who had other instructors, they had 1 round only. Im hoping to get him again for my cl2 test nxt yr as he seems to bring me luck! Both tests i expected to fail but end up passing!! hahahaha....

Stealth123 · July 8, 2016

Thks. Weak spots?? You mean where I had demerits is it?

Kena 4+2 at blindwall junction at the very start -forgot to chk bk right & delay in moving off (jus cos i decided to wait for a car on the left & 1 at filter lane coming in to pass. moved off only when i saw them like slowing down). Just remember rule of thumb - abt 3 or more car lengths away, its ok to go (aftr judging their speed, of course).

4pts - failure to chk traffic at crank exit. I saw nothing but Mr Bahtera said there was. But key point is that just a cursory glance is not good enough. Need to take some time to double confirm. So turn your head more & look to your right that wee bit longer. (dont forget the front also tho!) In any case you ought to be slowing down already there....so plenty of time for all scans!

4 pts - wobbling when changing lane. Either after crank exit moving to right lane or when moving back into left lane aftr the f8 queue. I really dunno. I didnt even kno i wobbled. But there was this 1 uncle who lane split past us while I was in queue! He failed!

2 pts - wobbling during start/stopping at slope. Its either cos when i stopped the front very slightly dived (not smooth enough) or when i did my hill start the bike went a slight bit left. Jus remember a front dive when stopping is counted as a wobble.

But all in all from this experience & my 2b - expect the unexpected. You may catch yourself doing certain mistakes/lapses & think other parts are ok, but results will show you being caught in parts that you thought were ok & your supposed mistakes are not caught or only 1-2 are actually caught.

& yes.... you get to choose your bike. The bikes are all laid out for you. just choose whatever is there for you. I chose that 1 lonely 1 at the back of the pack (144). 1 of my faves!

There are abt 10 2a bikes. So if youre one of the older testees, you jus come back & park bike in the ctr of the nursery for the remaing younger testees. Instructor in charge will motion to you as you come in.

25 of us testees in total. 12 cl2 & 13 2a. 22/25 passed.

Number of rounds of warmups i think is subject to who the instructor in charge is. I had Mr Bahtera for both my 2b &2a tests. So 2 rounds of warm up. I had mates who had other instructors, they had 1 round only. Im hoping to get him again for my cl2 test nxt yr as he seems to bring me luck! Both tests i expected to fail but end up passing!! hahahaha....

16 points! Omg buddy... Close shave! Also - looked like u were very steady on the plank and the bumpy!!

And Gosh..... The most happy part.. U get to choose bikes!!! I tell u .. Some of the bikes are master stallers!!

How is the traffic? Lots of cars? Do we actually meet any other bikes while doing the test? Is the cross junction with the traffic light (as you are turning towards the slope) congested on test day?

The first time I did my L3.. I was so kancheong, I saw the bike ahead clear the plank, I went and did the plank (without the blinker)... Immediate failure!

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jbdoggy · July 8, 2016

16 points! Omg buddy... Close shave! Also - looked like u were very steady on the plank and the bumpy!!

And Gosh..... The most happy part.. U get to choose bikes!!! I tell u .. Some of the bikes are master stallers!!

How is the traffic? Lots of cars? Do we actually meet any other bikes while doing the test? Is the cross junction with the traffic light (as you are turning towards the slope) congested on test day?

The first time I did my L3.. I was so kancheong, I saw the bike ahead clear the plank, I went and did the plank (without the blinker)... Immediate failure!

I expected 4 pts for plank cos i thot i was too fast. The bike like just refused to slow down! But very surprisingly no demerits there. I was told the very strictest of the strict tester was at the plank; must be an 8.01 sec plank then haha.

I expected 2 pts for delay in moving off for start of ebrake or worse. I was too engrossed watching the drama of someone falling down during bumpy & instructors on duty helping him up that i lost sight of the blinker lights! hahahaha.... The tester must hv gotten impatient cos he gave me a hand signal instead!! But no demerits there.

Bumpy - I clutch slightly less then biting point + constant light throttle + ride the rear brake. Very consistent & very good timings too! Gv yourslf a cr or 2 to get used to this! I think for our 2a its the only way to be consistent for bumpy due to the way some bikes are (always stalling). leave the throttle blipping method for next year when we can learn to ride on the 600cc bikes.

Traffic wise there were cars but still no where near the kind of busy on a normal lesson day. You only meet your fellow testees at the various stations & junctions. eg i was 4th bike at slope.

All the testers are very high tech haha... they carry touch screen laptops or something at their booths. Your result slip is printed out with your scores, the mistake type & the station number where it occurred. 1 is blindwall junction, 2 is slope, 3 is F8/crank. 4 is plank/slalom & 5 is ebrake/bumpy.

Stealth123 · July 8, 2016

I expected 4 pts for plank cos i thot i was too fast. The bike like just refused to slow down! But very surprisingly no demerits there. I was told the very strictest of the strict tester was at the plank; must be an 8.01 sec plank then haha.

I expected 2 pts for delay in moving off for start of ebrake or worse. I was too engrossed watching the drama of someone falling down during bumpy & instructors on duty helping him up that i lost sight of the blinker lights! hahahaha.... The tester must hv gotten impatient cos he gave me a hand signal instead!! But no demerits there.

Bumpy - I clutch slightly less then biting point + constant light throttle + ride the rear brake. Very consistent & very good timings too! Gv yourslf a cr or 2 to get used to this! I think for our 2a its the only way to be consistent for bumpy due to the way some bikes are (always stalling). leave the throttle blipping method for next year when we can learn to ride on the 600cc bikes.

Traffic wise there were cars but still no where near the kind of busy on a normal lesson day. You only meet your fellow testees at the various stations & junctions. eg i was 4th bike at slope.

All the testers are very high tech haha... they carry touch screen laptops or something at their booths. Your result slip is printed out with your scores, the mistake type & the station number where it occurred. 1 is blindwall junction, 2 is slope, 3 is F8/crank. 4 is plank/slalom & 5 is ebrake/bumpy.

4th bike on the slope! That's quite a crowd already!

Good tip on the bumpy. I had tried blipping before - and had stalled often on the bumpy..

Omg - just reading your experience makes me all excited!! 1 more month till d-day for me.

So what plans with the 2a in the pocket? Upgrading?

Next year we meet again for our class 2. Darn, it's one painful climb to the top!

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jbdoggy · July 8, 2016

4th bike on the slope! That's quite a crowd already!

Good tip on the bumpy. I had tried blipping before - and had stalled often on the bumpy..

Omg - just reading your experience makes me all excited!! 1 more month till d-day for me.

So what plans with the 2a in the pocket? Upgrading?

Next year we meet again for our class 2. Darn, it's one painful climb to the top!

Ya quite a bike crowd at the ramp but shows you jus how free from cars the road was in the 1st place.

Im not sure if youre aware yet - the partial biting point can also act as an additional brake. So when you go up the plank, just clutch in that wee bit & the bike slows down & doesnt pull forwards as much. For bumpy, the partial biting point prevents full transmission of engine power to the rear wheel due to clutch slip. Thats why on the better bikes, & if you do it correctly, 1 blip doesnt drive you over 2-3 bumps in 1 go. So its a useful clutch point to know.

1 more mth to d-day? Good.... use that time to practice practice practice.

Nay....im not upgrading. Save $$ for a daytona or a 600rr nxt yr. Besides.....my sp already has more power then the sch 2a bikes haha. No sense to spend $$ on say an R3 jus to get abt equivalent max power & not worth it to spend abt 6-8k on say a 2nd hand super 4 which has abt 13hp more then the sp. The sp is such a great commuting bike & can squeeze into places where an R15 cant. So im definitely hanging on to it. Cl2 bike for joyriding, sp for work, errands & pak tor! Thats the general plan anyway.

simeone82 · July 11, 2016

Ya quite a bike crowd at the ramp but shows you jus how free from cars the road was in the 1st place.

Im not sure if youre aware yet - the partial biting point can also act as an additional brake. So when you go up the plank, just clutch in that wee bit & the bike slows down & doesnt pull forwards as much. For bumpy, the partial biting point prevents full transmission of engine power to the rear wheel due to clutch slip. Thats why on the better bikes, & if you do it correctly, 1 blip doesnt drive you over 2-3 bumps in 1 go. So its a useful clutch point to know.

1 more mth to d-day? Good.... use that time to practice practice practice.

Nay....im not upgrading. Save $$ for a daytona or a 600rr nxt yr. Besides.....my sp already has more power then the sch 2a bikes haha. No sense to spend $$ on say an R3 jus to get abt equivalent max power & not worth it to spend abt 6-8k on say a 2nd hand super 4 which has abt 13hp more then the sp. The sp is such a great commuting bike & can squeeze into places where an R15 cant. So im definitely hanging on to it. Cl2 bike for joyriding, sp for work, errands & pak tor! Thats the general plan anyway.

Congrats on your class2a test! nice reading your experience.

jbdoggy · July 14, 2016

Congrats on your class2a test! nice reading your experience.

Thanks. Twas a big relief to actually make it. Imagine.... another 4 pt mistake & its curtains liao! Still sore abt the 8 pts at station 3. Thought they were very debatable & harsh penalties. The stupid 6 pts at the blindwall junction were entirely my fault w/o doubt.

Anyway its hoped that by sharing the experience, others may be able to take note of where i went wrong & do better than me on their day.

On a happier note....good riddance to the sch 2a bikes!!

Your turn to enroll coming soon right?

Stealth123 · August 5, 2016

Time passes fast had my TP today - passed :) ... See you next year JBDOGGY!

Ya quite a bike crowd at the ramp but shows you jus how free from cars the road was in the 1st place.

Im not sure if youre aware yet - the partial biting point can also act as an additional brake. So when you go up the plank, just clutch in that wee bit & the bike slows down & doesnt pull forwards as much. For bumpy, the partial biting point prevents full transmission of engine power to the rear wheel due to clutch slip. Thats why on the better bikes, & if you do it correctly, 1 blip doesnt drive you over 2-3 bumps in 1 go. So its a useful clutch point to know.

1 more mth to d-day? Good.... use that time to practice practice practice.

Nay....im not upgrading. Save $$ for a daytona or a 600rr nxt yr. Besides.....my sp already has more power then the sch 2a bikes haha. No sense to spend $$ on say an R3 jus to get abt equivalent max power & not worth it to spend abt 6-8k on say a 2nd hand super 4 which has abt 13hp more then the sp. The sp is such a great commuting bike & can squeeze into places where an R15 cant. So im definitely hanging on to it. Cl2 bike for joyriding, sp for work, errands & pak tor! Thats the general plan anyway.

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jbdoggy · August 7, 2016

Time passes fast had my TP today - passed :) ... See you next year JBDOGGY!

Congrats & Well done mate! Hope you had a better time overall then me! Super 4 coming up next?

Stealth123 · August 7, 2016

Hmm - I had a funny demerit during my TP - failure to maintain a half standing position. That was a costly 6 points. Had others like delayed move off... Total 14 points.

Also, there were a few cars in the circuit that morning - and some of them would wave you to give you the right of way. Here - it's a trust game - should you move and their student also decide to do the same... I Guess that spells an IF...

Dun think I will buy a 2A bike - like you, I'll wait a bit until class 2 next year...

Congrats & Well done mate! Hope you had a better time overall then me! Super 4 coming up next?

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hushpuppy · September 18, 2016

Cdc TP wait time is crazy 2months, they just want to earn my revision $$$

hushpuppy · September 21, 2016

what's the difference between revision and re-training?

jbdoggy · September 22, 2016

Hey hushpuppy

so we meet again.... wah so fast u waitg for test already ah? didnt seem that long ago when you just passed 2b!

They also earn from our membership fees. charge us 1 year but we complete in 3mths or so.

Retraining is 1 session you hv to book if you fail test. w/o it you cant rebook test.

hushpuppy · September 24, 2016

Hi jbdoggy,

I passed last year august. 2A needs some getting used to coz I'm riding auto bike. Was lucky to pass the first 3 lessons, still bad with figure 8.

The wait really makes me feel being sucked slowly for all the revision lessons....

Hey hushpuppy

so we meet again.... wah so fast u waitg for test already ah? didnt seem that long ago when you just passed 2b!

They also earn from our membership fees. charge us 1 year but we complete in 3mths or so.

Retraining is 1 session you hv to book if you fail test. w/o it you cant rebook test.

victorp · October 3, 2016

Hi jbdoggy,

I passed last year august. 2A needs some getting used to coz I'm riding auto bike. Was lucky to pass the first 3 lessons, still bad with figure 8.

The wait really makes me feel being sucked slowly for all the revision lessons....

Hi, can share when is your test date?

hushpuppy · October 18, 2016

Hi, can share when is your test date?

18th Nov, long wait

jbdoggy · October 20, 2016

18th Nov, long wait

All the best mate. If all your obstacles are ok, then just be very careful with procedures & general riding at the blindwall junction (Stn 1) & F8/crank (Stn 3). I had a whopping 16 pts just from those 2 stations alone. Read my experiences in some of the earlier posts to know what i mean.

Twas funny during my test wait. I thought the 2 mths passed so quickly! Most probably cos I was sooo caught up with work until i lost all track of time. Then 1 fine day I looked at my calender & was like... OMG! Its jus next week??!! haha

hushpuppy · November 18, 2016

I passed! I was lucky coz I made quite a few mistakes but guess it was unnoticed

All the best mate. If all your obstacles are ok, then just be very careful with procedures & general riding at the blindwall junction (Stn 1) & F8/crank (Stn 3). I had a whopping 16 pts just from those 2 stations alone. Read my experiences in some of the earlier posts to know what i mean.

Twas funny during my test wait. I thought the 2 mths passed so quickly! Most probably cos I was sooo caught up with work until i lost all track of time. Then 1 fine day I looked at my calender & was like... OMG! Its jus next week??!! haha

jbdoggy · November 18, 2016

I passed! I was lucky coz I made quite a few mistakes but guess it was unnoticed

Congrats & well done mate! Upgrading your machine soon or wait until next year?

hushpuppy · November 18, 2016

Congrats & well done mate! Upgrading your machine soon or wait until next year?

Not decided yet, did u upgrade?

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