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Yep, like what skiddie_67 says... its time to get a motard!!! Put on the sliders and a fatbar... crash only change indicators or mirrors, no thousand dollar fairings to deal with. (I should know). Put on the handguards and its impossible to break your levers.

 

It is so much cheaper and easier to learn and master last minute braking, changing lines in the corners, feeling the front end sliding into corners, feeling the rear end sliding into and stepping out of corners during hard acceleration. Anyway I still ride the bike roadrace style, knee down. Backing it in, foot out... is a signature move of motard riders... but it is not necessarily a faster way around some corners, something I learnt from the riders on and off the track.

 

IMHO you won't try learning these on a sportsbike coz any mistake is going to be a very expensive one, I know... been there done that and paid the price. But the only way to learn how to go fast is to ride at the ragged edge of crashing.

 

If it don't FEEL like you are going to crash...you ain't going fast enough.

 

I have already low sided 4 times, and so far replaced one set of handguards coz they looked badly scratched up. Trust me... motards are tough and can take a trashing.

 

Below is the link to the go kart track that I go to ride. For supermotard track days its USD$40 for 4 hours but you share the track with kids on mini motards and pocketbikes or any bikes below 150cc in alternating sessions.

 

Why I put the link up is... take a look at the track layout. Because they use interlinking access tracks, they can easily change the configuration of the track to suit kids or adults by just putting up traffic cones to change the course of the track.

 

By the way.. this track is only 1.2km long and is only 5 m wide. What is good about this track is... the run off areas are wide and hardpacked earth. I will run off the track at least once every visit and I got to do is stay calm, close the throttle, turn the bike back towards the track and its on with the chase again especially after them KTM 450s.

 

PS - If you look at the calendar of events... there is a supermotard session from 5pm to 9pm, today Saturday 24 Nov.

No prizes for guessing where I will be. Heheh.

 

 

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Hey skiddie_67, pinjam me your motard da..... ;)

 

pinjam try2, boleh Vijam bro... anyway, off-topic. if go PG call me dude.

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hmmm.. from the looks of the design of the track, it makes no sense. tarmac on the perimeter and dirt in the area.

 

can any1 state the precautions taken to,

 

1. prevent sand from going to the tarmac?

2. prevent off-course dirt bikes from going to the tarmac?

 

any info would be greatly appreciated.

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pinjam try2, boleh Vijam bro... anyway, off-topic. if go PG call me dude.

 

:thumb: will take you up on that ;)

 

Bro 2nd Dec Sunday trackday, wanna go together? PG esso at 8.30am

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Got track already don't complain lah. When the gov and other companies see how successful this is, plus the 2008 F1, maybe they will consider a full-sized GP-spec track.

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happy theres a circuit alrady small or big bike as long can race can la...check all m'sian pro riders all mostly come from cup prix den they ride supersports ... anyway a stepping stone for us in SG with this circuit ..thumbs up

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usually for supermotard, both dirt and tarmac sections are needed..cheers

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Got track already don't complain lah. When the gov and other companies see how successful this is, plus the 2008 F1, maybe they will consider a full-sized GP-spec track.

 

Thanks for understanding. We are sportbike riders too and would love a larger circuit but were allocated only 25,000m2, so have to make do with what we've got. You've hit the nail that the govt and corporate sponsors is looking at the success of this before investing more. Let's enjoy what we have.

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hmmm.. from the looks of the design of the track, it makes no sense. tarmac on the perimeter and dirt in the area.

 

can any1 state the precautions taken to,

 

1. prevent sand from going to the tarmac?

2. prevent off-course dirt bikes from going to the tarmac?

 

any info would be greatly appreciated.

 

wat about this?

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just a suggestion - i'm not sure if you guys are gonna make pit garages, but it'd be good if you have these for rent like PG does. but would appreciate if they are affordable though and not just for big time sponsored teams.

 

alot of the race-kups are mostly not tuned for roads. makes more sense to garage it. and having all the tools there on race day is a very convenient thing.

 

there are alot of ideas along that line that you guys can explore - even cafe perhaps? like Pitstop bar, where people went to watch motogp, but yours even better; people can do so after a trackday.

 

but of course subject to space...

 

:cheers:

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As compare with the PG and Tuas prices in track,which is in term better?

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As compare with the PG and Tuas prices in track,which is in term better?

 

 

before you compare like that, you have to take into consideration the difference in the following costs:

 

1. - Currency

2. - Manpower

3. - Raw material (e.g. sand, construction items)

4. - GST

5. - Land lease in $

6. - Any other overhead costs which are applicable in Singapore which is very much different from Malaysia.

 

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lovely... great to finally have track in SG... the pricing looks reasonable too... :thumb:

 

whats the price that u see? i dont see any pricing...

can refresh me?

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I've been there yesterday but it looks like still under heavy construction so didn't went it. Is it open already?

 

Er...will there be go karts for rental?

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:thumb: will take you up on that ;)

 

Bro 2nd Dec Sunday trackday, wanna go together? PG esso at 8.30am

 

Sorry dude, in a few hrs i'll be in Sepang for motard trackday @ the go-kart track.. hope can find time to watch n support the MSS race too while i'm there. Next time perhaps... I'm so gian to for PG trackday. Feel like AGES!!

 

Anyway in response to our Gingerbread boy, supermoto actually consists of about 70% tarmac and 30% dirt. Though most of us SG supermoto riders are not too familiar with the dirt since most of us do not come from dirt background. Nevertheless the dirt will certainly add some spice to the ride... Having said that, I do not know if the dirt riders will accidentaly jump to far over the tarmac... :goodluck:

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The transition from dirt to tarmac is one of the best thing about motard. When you go from Dirt to tarmac, it feels like your bike has a turbo in it. It'll gain traction once you get to tarmac.. freaking A feeling...

 

In regards to safety issue, so long as the transition is on a straight line, it's pretty safe... ran full slicks on a crf 450 and never had a problem with it.

 

On some of the track days when the motard swtich with mini bikes and karts. Some broom and alittle sweeping helps... basic track manners between karts and motard goes a long way.

 

SG have not had a track for a long time... it's a good start.. props to the guys for getting the track up!! Don't complain too much lah..

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Hiya guys! If u guys think spore track is gonna be small to ride or race on..look at this:

Some biker once said " If u haven't been to Gerik, U haven't been touring in Malaysia".

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Sorry dude, in a few hrs i'll be in Sepang for motard trackday @ the go-kart track.. hope can find time to watch n support the MSS race too while i'm there. Next time perhaps... I'm so gian to for PG trackday. Feel like AGES!!

 

Anyway in response to our Gingerbread boy, supermoto actually consists of about 70% tarmac and 30% dirt. Though most of us SG supermoto riders are not too familiar with the dirt since most of us do not come from dirt background. Nevertheless the dirt will certainly add some spice to the ride... Having said that, I do not know if the dirt riders will accidentaly jump to far over the tarmac... :goodluck:

 

The transition from dirt to tarmac is one of the best thing about motard. When you go from Dirt to tarmac, it feels like your bike has a turbo in it. It'll gain traction once you get to tarmac.. freaking A feeling...

 

In regards to safety issue, so long as the transition is on a straight line, it's pretty safe... ran full slicks on a crf 450 and never had a problem with it.

 

On some of the track days when the motard swtich with mini bikes and karts. Some broom and alittle sweeping helps... basic track manners between karts and motard goes a long way.

 

SG have not had a track for a long time... it's a good start.. props to the guys for getting the track up!! Don't complain too much lah..

 

Not to even mention the urban jumps on tarmac....it's crazy when it's wet and the tyre slide a little when it landed (yes, even the front tyre!!!)

 

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