Aprilia Riders

[dDtim]

Our bad sub, we moved on to that already.

 

Anyway on the note of sliders Vyruz, I initially did want to put them on, being a new rider. however due to the brackets being an irreversible modification on the fairings I backed off the idea.

 

Depends on how you like/dont mind the sliders being fitted on as well as a mental ease

[mesab0ogie]

If you guys want to discuss whether or not you want to order, do it via PM or phonecall. Please dont take up unneccessary space on the forum. It causes a big break in other relevant discussions. Thanks.

 

in my humble opinion the question of relevance should be based on individual perception, no? while you may not find our discussion relevant it may very well invoke the interest of others who might want to order from pjme. Relevant points such as the plummeting British pound and our interest to order were brought up, useful info for those who might wana add a few tweaks to their bikes and are sourcing for parts.

 

Anw we did realise that enough publicity has been given to our interest so we have decided to move on to conversing via sms and not,as u say, take up unnecessary forum space, so i sincerely apologise if we hindered any other discussions that might have been going on =D

[mesab0ogie]

Vyruz,

 

I didnt say I approve of frame sliders. I'm not really keen on them.

 

It's good you did your homework on them. There have been varying opinion among many riders. Even our dear Lacrimosae here swore he wont get sliders etc, and talked about how they might damage the frame etc. But now he's got R&G sliders to go protect his CF fairings. To me, I feel sliders are alright if you're just using your bike for road riding. They'll protect your bike in falls and drops. But track riding, I wouldnt recommend. You'll be at much higher speeds, higher chance to highside or lowside thus increasing the probability your frame sliders actually damage the frame. Nowadays the sliders are not mounted directly to the frame but to a bracket that's mounted to the frame. I suppose that helps. Decision lies with you.

 

anw bro with regards to this, someone did post a pic of an RS with frame sliders installed which got involved in a crash in PG. And the pictures say enough. They saved his fairings. And the crash was a result of a high speed corner at 120km/h if i rmb correctly. So in this case the sliders were useful in a track situation.

 

but on another hand, i have a friend who had sliders installed. got involved in a road accident where there were no collisions and he only fell due to his sudden braking. His sliders broke and caused his fairing to crack. In THIS case, the sliders actually did more damage than good,

 

But with regards to lawrence's doubt about sliders, i rmb his argument was there could be damage to the frame brcause the sliders were not meant for a lateral impact ie direct impact onto the sliders. and it makes sense because in a case of a direct impact, say maybe a high side and the bike falls on its side, the force of the impact would be concentrated on that single point where the slider is fixed onto as opposed to the whole side of the bike if there were no sliders, and this might cause damage to the frame.

 

again like u said its a matter of personal perception/preference. For me personally im still sitting on the fence. Might invest in race fairings shud i be frequenting the tracks more often,considering you can get a full set for 200pounds++(excl sipping of course). Given that the sliders themselves cost 300+ sgd, it might not be such a bad idea after all.

[Sub Zero]

Our bad sub, we moved on to that already.

 

Anyway on the note of sliders Vyruz, I initially did want to put them on, being a new rider. however due to the brackets being an irreversible modification on the fairings I backed off the idea.

 

Depends on how you like/dont mind the sliders being fitted on as well as a mental ease

 

Actually the brackets are not an irreversible modification. They are mounted via bolts onto the frame. The slider is mounted on the bracket. Now depending on the brand of slider you get, it might involve cutting away part of the fairings.

 

Motivation sliders for the 06 and above do not require the fairings to be cut. This i can confirm. However for the R&G, i think you need to cut away a portion of the fairings. Maybe Personified can clarify this. This is what i have heard.

[Sub Zero]

in my humble opinion the question of relevance should be based on individual perception, no? while you may not find our discussion relevant it may very well invoke the interest of others who might want to order from pjme. Relevant points such as the plummeting British pound and our interest to order were brought up, useful info for those who might wana add a few tweaks to their bikes and are sourcing for parts.

 

Anw we did realise that enough publicity has been given to our interest so we have decided to move on to conversing via sms and not,as u say, take up unnecessary forum space, so i sincerely apologise if we hindered any other discussions that might have been going on =D

 

Thanks for your kind understanding mate. I concede to your point regarding relevance. I just dont like to see a page of this thread dominated by a conversation between 2 ppl that is better to be taking place via other means. SMS, MSN etc.

 

In any case, i have highlighted to a few friends(but not on this forum) that i will be doing a big PJME order around end of Feb.

I hope to get orders amounting to 1000 pounds and above as it will give us free shipping.

Anything above 250 pounds amounts to a shipping of 105 pounds. An absolute waste IMO.

 

The last order i did last year wasnt placed online, was among friends. We enjoyed the free shipping but afew delays due to money being given to the wrong person to order. Now, i will be taking charge personally and things will go much better i hope. You're more than welcome to join in.

[mesab0ogie]

Thanks for your kind understanding mate. I concede to your point regarding relevance. I just dont like to see a page of this thread dominated by a conversation between 2 ppl that is better to be taking place via other means. SMS, MSN etc.

 

In any case, i have highlighted to a few friends(but not on this forum) that i will be doing a big PJME order around end of Feb.

I hope to get orders amounting to 1000 pounds and above as it will give us free shipping.

Anything above 250 pounds amounts to a shipping of 105 pounds. An absolute waste IMO.

 

The last order i did last year wasnt placed online, was among friends. We enjoyed the free shipping but afew delays due to money being given to the wrong person to order. Now, i will be taking charge personally and things will go much better i hope. You're more than welcome to join in.

 

Totally get ur point. No hard feelings bro =) Anw me and dDtim trying to capitalize on the weak pound now so we might just go ahead with the order. Anw with regards to the shipping being 105 pounds, really? Coz i tried checking out with a flatslide carb in the basket(160pounds) and the shipping stated 40pounds. Will go chk out again later.

 

EDIT : ok i just checked the shipping. it IS 105 pounds. wtf. like this definitely need more people.

[Sub Zero]

Totally get ur point. No hard feelings bro =) Anw me and dDtim trying to capitalize on the weak pound now so we might just go ahead with the order. Anw with regards to the shipping being 105 pounds, really? Coz i tried checking out with a flatslide carb in the basket(160pounds) and the shipping stated 40pounds. Will go chk out again later.

 

EDIT : ok i just checked the shipping. it IS 105 pounds. wtf. like this definitely need more people.

 

NO worries bro. Shipping from PJME can be a total pain. Trust me, i know it in and out.

 

Basic breakdown for you.

 

Below 100 pounds Shipping 25 pounds.

Below 250 pounds Shipping 45 pounds

250 to 999 pounds Shipping 105 pounds

1000 pounds onwards is free!!!

[AEoM]

Anyone knows the price if I change our tyre front and back?

 

And did anyone down fork for aprilia? Coz I have to tip toe so it's hard for me to do a reverse :/

[lacrimosae]

I ride with my index finger covering the front brake, and no fingers covering the clutch. There are some pros and cons that come with covering the front brake.

 

Pros: Reaction time to brake is reduced since you're not wasting precious time moving your finger from the grip to the lever. Also, as personified noted, braking with fewer fingers lowers the risk of snatching the lever hard and over-braking.

 

Cons: Increased chance of suffering from the 'survival reaction' of braking in situations where more throttle/better steering would have improved the situation (e.g. coming in too hot into a slippery corner, panicking and immediately going hard on the front brake while leaned over). Also, I find my right hand gets fatigued faster with one finger covering the brake vs having all fingers wrapped around the bar.

 

I'm trying to change to having my index and middle fingers covering the front brake and see how that feels. Emergency braking with one finger, for me, is trickier than doing it with two fingers and with good modulation.

 

I think it's time to invest in a bicycle, be it mountain or road bike. I always use the hardest, harshest grips available (instead of going for the softest and most comfortable like everyone else), and I stick to v-brakes (I recommend cantilever brakes if you're gutsy enough), to build up a resistance to the chafing on your palms that you will experience racing on track, and train up your finger strength. I can pull one-fingered stoppies even on the stock 1998 brakes, I don't see why can't anyone else last 25 laps on PG.

 

A lot of my instincts and reflexes were gleaned from 15 years of cycling off-road, where we would race in Bukit Timah, Woodcutter's Trail, Boy's Brigade Trail, and even illegally at MacRitchie Reservoir in the night, in complete darkness (to avoid detection by the park rangers). Your body will learn to react appropriately based on the feedback from your bike.

 

I brake with the index finger, and disengage the clutch with 2. My clutch disengages with only 1 inch of pull. It's faster for downshifting quickly after a late braking.

 

Wow u guys have been a great help. Will try it once my bike is ready.

 

Another thing is there's a new arrow pipe for aprilia which looks abit like the stock. Anyone noes if it's legal?

 

As mentioned before, no cert = not legal

 

Yea, that's the titanium full system. Biketech (http://www.biketech21.sg/site/?page_id=8) sells it. They've confirmed that it is street-legal (i.e. registered). I'm trying to convince myself that I need it You can either go to Biketech yourself to buy it ($650) and have your favourite mech install it (~$50), or go to 37 Motoring and get them to source the pipe and install it (I believe they'll charge something like $750 all up). I'm thinking of saving some money and sourcing it myself.

 

The expansion chamber is mild steel and will rust. It is NOT titanium and hence cannot be called a titanium "full system". Only the muffler is made of titanium.

 

I know most of you here are new, and really cannot be bothered to read the 300 pages of info squeezed into the 500-800 plus page range, but surely there must be someone out there who knows something about the current discussion topics? So many posts, but so many misconceptions and errors (that has been repeated indefinitely and corrected over countless times) that no one bothers to correct. I'm getting tired of this... Come on guys, do some homework on your own. Hundreds of pages of information and everyone's still mucking about in the swamp like blind men. JFC!

 

I'm shocked to find that the forum posts suddenly doubled with so many posts, and seriously am getting very tired and irritated to have to keep pointing you guys in the right direction. Read up! Open your bike to see for yourself! It's not that hard, come on, you are all guys here. Do you have any idea how simple the 2-stroke engine is compared to a 4-stroke? And I can go from not having any formal training in mechanical engineering to doing full overhauls in the void deck within a year. All it takes is some interest and passion. Put in some effort and get your hands dirty.

 

If you can't, IT'S TIME TO BUY A BLOUSE THAT MATCHES YOUR PURSE YOU USE TO KEEP YOUR TAMPONS IN. Seriously.

[dDtim]

How's your bike now?

 

Have read a couple of posts about tires. Depends on the function you are looking for e.g road use as opposed to track use, or a mix. Most of the tires mentioned fall within the 250-350 pricetag.

[AEoM]

I think it's time to invest in a bicycle, be it mountain or road bike. I always use the hardest, harshest grips available (instead of going for the softest and most comfortable like everyone else), and I stick to v-brakes (I recommend cantilever brakes if you're gutsy enough), to build up a resistance to the chafing on your palms that you will experience racing on track, and train up your finger strength. I can pull one-fingered stoppies even on the stock 1998 brakes, I don't see why can't anyone else last 25 laps on PG.

 

A lot of my instincts and reflexes were gleaned from 15 years of cycling off-road, where we would race in Bukit Timah, Woodcutter's Trail, Boy's Brigade Trail, and even illegally at MacRitchie Reservoir in the night, in complete darkness (to avoid detection by the park rangers). Your body will learn to react appropriately based on the feedback from your bike.

 

I brake with the index finger, and disengage the clutch with 2. My clutch disengages with only 1 inch of pull. It's faster for downshifting quickly after a late braking.

 

 

 

As mentioned before, no cert = not legal

 

 

 

The expansion chamber is mild steel and will rust. It is NOT titanium and hence cannot be called a titanium "full system". Only the muffler is made of titanium.

 

I know most of you here are new, and really cannot be bothered to read the 300 pages of info squeezed into the 500-800 plus page range, but surely there must be someone out there who knows something about the current discussion topics? So many posts, but so many misconceptions and errors (that has been repeated indefinitely and corrected over countless times) that no one bothers to correct. I'm getting tired of this... Come on guys, do some homework on your own. Hundreds of pages of information and everyone's still mucking about in the swamp like blind men. JFC!

 

I'm shocked to find that the forum posts suddenly doubled with so many posts, and seriously am getting very tired and irritated to have to keep pointing you guys in the right direction. Read up! Open your bike to see for yourself! It's not that hard, come on, you are all guys here. Do you have any idea how simple the 2-stroke engine is compared to a 4-stroke? And I can go from not having any formal training in mechanical engineering to doing full overhauls in the void deck within a year. All it takes is some interest and passion. Put in some effort and get your hands dirty.

 

If you can't, IT'S TIME TO BUY A BLOUSE THAT MATCHES YOUR PURSE YOU USE TO KEEP YOUR TAMPONS IN. Seriously.

 

Chill dude, juz need some help man...

[AEoM]

How's your bike now?

 

Have read a couple of posts about tires. Depends on the function you are looking for e.g road use as opposed to track use, or a mix. Most of the tires mentioned fall within the 250-350 pricetag.

 

its still in the bike shop. collecting it tomorrow. ask the mech on y is it when i go up a slope like a multi story carpark there is totally no strength. he told me once i change exhaust it'll have more power on pick up. hope it'll help.

 

maybe gonna down fork also as i have to tip toe abit and its quite hard for me to reverse the bike.

Edited January 10, 2011 by AEoM

[MaxS]

Hey, was at 37 motoring at about 4 plus earlier (10 jan). Saw another aprilia rider but i didnt get your name. Happen to be anyone around here? im riding the FBF plate red & white rs.

[personified]

Erm.. Thanks for the compliment..

I'll try take my fingers off the brakes during cornering next time. My rear shocks have given up on me so haven't been cornering alot lately. Once i get replacement then...

Did try trail braking on a modded RD350 abt 2 years back. Damn scary sia. Haha.. Wouldn't wanna do that again.

 

trail braking isnt scary,its the RD350 thats scary...

anyway the superbikes i feel 125 no need trail brake,just wack wide open,100% brakinggggg..lean in and immd wack open throttle and hang on tight...

[personified]

Vyruz,

 

I didnt say I approve of frame sliders. I'm not really keen on them.

 

It's good you did your homework on them. There have been varying opinion among many riders. Even our dear Lacrimosae here swore he wont get sliders etc, and talked about how they might damage the frame etc. But now he's got R&G sliders to go protect his CF fairings. To me, I feel sliders are alright if you're just using your bike for road riding. They'll protect your bike in falls and drops. But track riding, I wouldnt recommend. You'll be at much higher speeds, higher chance to highside or lowside thus increasing the probability your frame sliders actually damage the frame. Nowadays the sliders are not mounted directly to the frame but to a bracket that's mounted to the frame. I suppose that helps. Decision lies with you.

 

Bro R&G frame sliders are mounted directly to the frame.. and yes need to mod fairing to have an opening to slot the crash bungs in...

Edited January 10, 2011 by personified

[personified]

Anyone knows the price if I change our tyre front and back?

 

And did anyone down fork for aprilia? Coz I have to tip toe so it's hard for me to do a reverse :/

 

I have installed Dunlops Alpha 12 today..cost me $350..actually I prefer Michelin power 1s (they cost over $400) or Metzeler racetech(close to $400) but they do not bring in the front 110/70..

prior to that I was on power 1 V-profile front 120/70 n power race 150/70 ( i dumped the OEM pirelli diablo immd after i got the bike...)

I couldnt lean in much as the front doesnt allow me too so for 110 size, theres only bridgestone or dunlops (my choice wud be dunlops as i tried it before on my husky sm125.

lowering the front fork is not really about lowering the bike..its more to sharpen the steering of the bike n bear in mind u be messing with the geometery of the bike..RS steering ,I feel is quick enough to steer...

lowering of the bike will also change your body position ,u be leaning more towards the front and yer wrist will be supporting more of yer body weight..during long road journeys,u will feel the strain..on the track,when u into 100% braking ,u can feel lightness at the rear and the tyres actually swishing left n right more(no big deal actually) as all the weight is transferred to the front due to geometery of bike.

i tip toe too while sitting on bike to reverse,solution...use hands and push her backwards ..

[AEoM]

I have installed Dunlops Alpha 12 today..cost me $350..actually I prefer Michelin power 1s (they cost over $400) or Metzeler racetech(close to $400) but they do not bring in the front 110/70..

prior to that I was on power 1 V-profile front 120/70 n power race 150/70 ( i dumped the OEM pirelli diablo immd after i got the bike...)

I couldnt lean in much as the front doesnt allow me too so for 110 size, theres only bridgestone or dunlops (my choice wud be dunlops as i tried it before on my husky sm125.

lowering the front fork is not really about lowering the bike..its more to sharpen the steering of the bike n bear in mind u be messing with the geometery of the bike..RS steering ,I feel is quick enough to steer...

lowering of the bike will also change your body position ,u be leaning more towards the front and yer wrist will be supporting more of yer body weight..during long road journeys,u will feel the strain..on the track,when u into 100% braking ,u can feel lightness at the rear and the tyres actually swishing left n right more(no big deal actually) as all the weight is transferred to the front due to geometery of bike.

i tip toe too while sitting on bike to reverse,solution...use hands and push her backwards ..

 

thks man! getting it changed soon. getting bald. haha!

[AEoM]

double post

[personified]

Thanks for the insight to your riding technique. I do it slightly differently. I'm on gear 6 on 2nd straight, abt 160-165, then i down 1 gear to gear 5, take turn 2, without hanging out. Then before turn 3, i drop 2 more gears to gear 3.

 

I always ask other rs125 riders this qn. I personally feel that our bike speed drops before turn 2 because of the incline leading to the turn. So to mantain the speed, i drop a gear to gear 5 and power through turn 2.

 

Maybe you can try it and give me your opinion?? Thanks in advance.

 

your way is also acceptable,every rider hve their own way to neg a corner...downshifting to 5th before T2 is also ok as u are getting the rev to yer ideal mark n also allowing yer bike to settle into a corner,u feel more traction on the rear as u push her into the corner,theres no sense of lightness on the front fork which can be felt if u go into T2 with throttle to a stop...

but remember going through gear changes waste time (-0.005 sec every gear change,counting the number of gear change u made in every lap,that adds up to alot)... always try to minimise gear changes,in 2 stroke riding,u need to slip the clutch alot to keep revs up and to get it up to redline real quick ...yes theres an incline leading to T2, Im taking her thru T2 with the RPM between 10,500-11000 at 157km (thats my top at the moment)..if needed i do a quick slip on the clutch lever if the rev dips slightly...

downshifting always give an false impression that we are going fast due to the sudden rush of acceleration on a lower gear...the key to fast riding is being smooth (im still learning this) .. I always try different ways to attack a corner...i may feel its fast but actually it slowed me down so its not about the feeling, ultimately the one that really counts is your lap time..

[priller07]

trail braking isnt scary,its the RD350 thats scary...

anyway the superbikes i feel 125 no need trail brake,just wack wide open,100% brakinggggg..lean in and immd wack open throttle and hang on tight...

 

Tell me abt it man. Was scared shitless when the rear tyre started to drift outwards during corner. Plus the RD350 power.. Sorry off-track.. Anyways, never been to track before. Maybe one day....

 

And i'll try out the braking technique u said earlier on. Today whole day rain i got no chance to try. Haha..

[xxes123]

Anyone interested in MITAKA kit?? Price sgd360 inclusive of shipping and GST... Pls pm me by today 10pm if interested as order will be placed on 11/01 11pm.... Parts should be reaching SG ard next monday..

[dDtim]

its still in the bike shop. collecting it tomorrow. ask the mech on y is it when i go up a slope like a multi story carpark there is totally no strength. he told me once i change exhaust it'll have more power on pick up. hope it'll help.

 

maybe gonna down fork also as i have to tip toe abit and its quite hard for me to reverse the bike.

 

My friend who is 1.8 still has problems reversing the bike even after lowering the suspension. I just paddle left foot, lean bike 1-2inch to right, right foot, lf rf lf rf. Get off the bike and pull her if necessary. There's no real need for a lowered fork as mentioned by the bro above it will mess weight distribution and cause additional physical stress on your forearms

[vyruz]

I know most of you here are new, and really cannot be bothered to read the 300 pages of info squeezed into the 500-800 plus page range, but surely there must be someone out there who knows something about the current discussion topics? So many posts, but so many misconceptions and errors (that has been repeated indefinitely and corrected over countless times) that no one bothers to correct. I'm getting tired of this... Come on guys, do some homework on your own. Hundreds of pages of information and everyone's still mucking about in the swamp like blind men. JFC!

 

With the current forum structure, I can't see this changing anytime soon. What we need is an Aprilia RS125 folder in which we have stickies on the usual n00b enquiries, and dedicated threads on specific topics, as opposed to a single thread for everything RS125 under the sun. If the forum itself lacks some form of organization, it can hardly be surprising that the posts lack organization.

 

The frustrations don't only lie with the seasoned posters, lacrimosae. N00bs like me are just as frustrated at not being able to extract the information they need without trawling through hundreds of posts from years ago, which are themselves just as disorganized and generally full of drivel as the ones being posted today. Having said that, I have no sympathy for the lazy n00b who does f-ck all searching or research before posting the usual trivial nonsense (I especially hate the question "how much will my insurance be" - FFS call the insurance agency and find out).

[vyruz]

Double post - Definitely not helping the cause.

[xxes123]

anyone have a 34mm inlet manifold lying around? (if lawrence is in front of me id be staring and grinning at him right now)

 

I have..