[Discussion] Typical prices for Phantom repairs & mods

[VidaK]

bro, when you said smaller, you mean the diameter of the wheel is smaller? or is it the width? Iprefer thicker width to make the bike looks 'fuller' or more chunky!

 

both the diameter and the width...

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Diameter decrease? Then the "increased top speed" may actually come from speedo error. Smaller wheel rotates faster for a given speed and your speedo sensor obviously doesnt know that so gives you more positive speed error.

 

Lower profile (width) does give smaller rolling resistance at the expense of cornering, etc. That's why some people think putting bicycle tyres on their KRR is shiok...

 

Not that anyone with sound knowledge of engineering would EVER do that.

 

Anyway, big wheels ftw. Must be fat like pillows

 

There was a Spark with bicycle tyres riding around Yishun Dam last SNM. He was carrying a pillion on a tyre so skinny it wobbled and flexed every time he braked, turned or accelerated. Those skinny tyres are not meant to carry such heavy load and when they do they deform significantly (weight of vehicle area remains the same, less width of contact patch = tyre deforms to take the load/pressure).

 

So at heavy loading the skinny tyre using the above extreme example, is less efficient than a fat one which is rated for a higher load at lower pressure and deforms less. Less deforming = less rolling resistance, less heat and go faster with longer tyre life :3

Edited March 29, 2010 by Pandora's Kitten :3

[pureice68]

both the diameter and the width...

 

Icic. Hmmm, dun think I'll use those den! Hahaha...

[dogshit2]

As the rear axle mounting bolt was towards the end of the green zone on my TA200. I decided to change the chain and front and rear sprockets. Genuine Honda parts. Will give the prices I paid here in Thailand in THB and SGD which is inclusive of labour, to give you some comparison. I also had the front brake pads changed.

 

Front Brake Pads 240 THB 10.3 SGD

"O" Ring Chain 2000 THB 88.40 SGD

Front Sprocket 190 THB 8.40 SGD

Rear Sprocket 550 THB 24.30 SGD

 

No difference in performance but the noise reduction from the transmission is considerable, I could barely hear the engine above the ssshshshsh of the transmission before, now all I can hear is the engine purring away contentedly. It is wonderful and another lesson learned, that transmission noise is not supposed to be there!! I guess we get complacent and accustomed to the racket that the bike is not supposed to be making.

 

Happy Trails

 

Bro what size spocket they gave u? the last time i ask a shop in hat yai was quoted for "O" ring rk 2000bht inclusive of spockets size 16 41. i didnt change but heard from ah koon front spocket 16 is impossible to fit... heavy duty made in thailand chain is 800baht...

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

What is the stock sprocket ratio supposed to be, anyway?

 

Asking because my gearing is rather short for my tastes.

[aitch52]

Bro what size spocket they gave u? the last time i ask a shop in hat yai was quoted for "O" ring rk 2000bht inclusive of spockets size 16 41. i didnt change but heard from ah koon front spocket 16 is impossible to fit... heavy duty made in thailand chain is 800baht...

 

 

Hi bros

 

I got the stock sprockets from my local Honda dealer and they are 13-41. I also have the same thinking Kalyan that the gearing isn't tall enough, I feel that there should be another higher gear after 6th. I wanted to go for a 42 or 43 rear but the dealer said no hab. I have heard that the Thai chains are pants DS2. 16 front wow that is quite a jump! The rear sprocket has 41 stamped on it.

[kmjoe]

Repairs / Maintenance :

* Fuel Sensor $40 (Planet)custom 4 & above

* Battery $26Yuasa/$38(plug and play) (LAB) / $35 (Planet) / $48 (Ah Koon)/ $60 woodlands road carltex (7Ah battery)

* Steering cone $55-65

* Chain Tensioner $55-60 (for tick tick sound at cold start)

* Front brake disc $45

* Tyres (metz lasertec) $160 front & back just changed on monday at planet

* Chain $70-120 depending on type

* Chain + Sprocket - $140+/-

* DID O RING with Original Honda Sprocket - $130 (planet)

* Signal lights - depending on which type you like. $8-25.

* Signal bulb, headlight bulb - 1 $ (LAB, easy DIY) (add on: approved brighter ones for $8. bought from koon.)

* Speedo BackLight + Workmanship (Planet) - S$2

* Headlight - anywhere from $35 to 90 depending the type you like.

* Spark plug - $2-20 [[ Replay once had his changed for S$2 ]]

* Engine oil - $6 -18 (jB got his lousiest EO for $3)

* Brake Pad $15-25

* Bleed and change brake fluid($10 each side)

* Air filter - $10

* Wheel ball bearings - $20-35 (depends on how mech chop u) jtzx: change for only $5 at planet

* Gear Shaft - $100 (planet)

* Clutch plate - $80 (Planet)

* Front fork (1 pair) - $330 (planet)

* Front fork seals (plus fork oil of course) - $65 (planet)

* Front fork tube (1 x) - $30 (planet)

* Rectifier - $75 (planet)

* Coil - $180 (planet)

* Rethreading of spark plug thread - between $35 - $45.

* Gasket - $30 (koon)

* Gasket @ Exhaust - $25 (Planet)

* Starter carbon - $60 (planet)

* Front fender - $45 (original honda) ($28 at ah boy, DIY 4 screws only)

* Rear brake plate w/ pad $58 (planet)

* Rear brake disc - $80 (planet)

* Original rear suspension $180 (planet)

* Repair front brake pump (jam) and replace brake oil -$25 - (planet)

* Replace entire front brake pump ($80) - (planet)

* Rear Brake Pump ($85) (planet)

* Overhaul: Piston+Ring+Block+Top gasket+EO+Plug - ($380) - (planet)

* Rear brake light 12 v 5w/18w $1 (planet)

* Clutch cable - $15 (planet) / $20 (ah koon)

* Throttle cable - $12 (planet)

* Front Brake/Clutch Lever - $8 each(planet)

* Balancer [the 2 silver thingies at the edge of your handlebars] - $15 (planet)

* Front fender -$45 (AMK HL motors)

* Spark plug cap - $18 (planet)

* regina gold chain, front & rear honda sprockets with installation at ah boy- $120

Mods and Accessories:

* Respray of bike, (front/rear mudguard + Tank) single color - $180 (H L Cycle)

* Wide handlebar (custom4 phantom type) - $38

* Wide Crashbar with mounting points for spotlights - $80

* Big Footrest - $60 madman - Pinkphantom.com

* Front\Rubber part - $5/piece @LAB

* Front\Metal base plate - $11/piece @LAB

* Rear\Eagle footrest - $25/pair @ LAB (just bought today, now is $30)

* Side box e21 - $90-180

* Zeus box 48L - $110 (Koon)

* Fuel tank - $382 contact madman or check http://www.pinkphantom.com/estore06.html

* Spotlights $35 a pair http://www.pinkphantom.com/estore11a.html

* Windshield $65-80

* Grips $10-120

* Chrome w/ rubber strips grips (LAB) - $25

* Mirrors $12(LAB) - $50 (jB got his, 8 bucks for small ones)

* Look-alike-original mirrors (shop beside LAB) - $20, LAB should be cheaper.

* Saddlebags $98-190 madman - Pinkphantom.com

* Hazard light less than $10 if u fix&wire urself, $18-20 for mech installation [[ S$15 if Replay does it for you! ]]

* Relocating rear signals to license plate - $10 (planet)

* Relocating rear signals to license plate with bracket - $28 (LAB)

* Rear box $80-330

* Voltage stabiliser - $59-$120 depends

* Rider's ORIGINAL footrest (LAB) - S$18 per side, can be cheaper?

* Stainless steel screws for speedo, and side covers. 6 to change altogether. $1-$1.80 also bought from koon.

* washers to go at 50c each at regina

* Socket for supporting the head light - $15

* Bullet Headlight - $35 (LAB)

* Gear lever with rubber $20 at koon

* Chrome gear and brake levers set - madman

* Stebel Magnum 2 (Silver) w/o installation - $18-$20 (LAB)

* Daiso electric horns (pair) - $45 (planet)

* Phantom TA 200 gearbox - $540 (planet)

* Front fender the "mudflap"- $20 at koon

* Stebel Electric horn with nice hidden installation under front chrome cover- at koon $38

* Re-wrap seat- Starts from about $38 from Eugene saddledry

* Spotlights on crashbar with installation- $35 at koon

* Crashbar- $65 from ah boy DIY

* Anchor and wide type crashbar - madman

Tow Services & Send for Inspection:

* Towing (to and fro) - $40 (Planet)

* Send for inspection - $60 (Planet)

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

I'm thinking a 15-39 can give me a bit more high speed/low rpm cruise ability without much problems.

 

Just have to accelerate more before an uphill stretch or use a lower gear. I don't really mind the reduced pickup as now I have too much pickup.

 

Which can be fun at traffic lights, thats why on further consultation with other PKs and the mechs at Planet , I decided to keep the sprocket ratios as they are until they're worn.

[jevan]

Where is a good place to look at saddlebags or sideboxes? And where is ah koon? Anyone got exact address?

[jtzx]

lengkok baru.. behind the community centre...

[st_gtti]

Does koon carry other kind of crash bar too n arga how much is it ya?

[aguillon]

Does koon carry other kind of crash bar too n arga how much is it ya?

 

Didnt see any crashbars at Ah Koon.

Bought mine from Lim Ah Boy. I know Pink Phantom carry the more stylo ones (altho not sure if they have stock at the moment).

 

Give Ah Koon a call to check first: 6274-2265

[aguillon]

Where is a good place to look at saddlebags or sideboxes? And where is ah koon? Anyone got exact address?

 

Ah Koon = Koon Motors at

 

Block 61 Lengkok Bahru

#01-454

Singapore 150061

 

Easiest is to enter via Leng Kee Road, then turn into Hoy Fatt road, then take first left and into the HDB car park.

[jevan]

thanks to all the PKs who have replied and given me the info!

[st_gtti]

Didnt see any crashbars at Ah Koon.

Bought mine from Lim Ah Boy. I know Pink Phantom carry the more stylo ones (altho not sure if they have stock at the moment).

 

Give Ah Koon a call to check first: 6274-2265

 

tks man will try to call him tis 2 days

[aguillon]

No problem st_gtti. I bought saddlebags from him a few days back;

Small leather ones without studs. The good thing is that I didn't have to relocate my indicators to fit them

Now all I need to do is take off the top box and get a higher sissy bar

[devil.L]

im likely t make a trip down t ahkoon on saturday late morning say 10am/11am.

beep me t arrange for meet up at an easy location..

if no one's coming, im not heading thr alr.. (:

 

st_gtti , ever tot of a custom made crashbar?

pm for more detail.

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

New modification: super loud kanang guni horn - $6.50

 

It's way louder than the stock horn!!

[aguillon]

New modification: super loud kanang guni horn - $6.50

 

It's way louder than the stock horn!!

 

To be absolutely honest, almost anything is louder than the stock horn isn't it ...

 

I recently changed to a Hella metal disc horn I got from LAB and the difference is massive. Now cars do hear me (even if they still don't care).

[Chrisboy]

New modification: super loud kanang guni horn - $6.50

 

It's way louder than the stock horn!!

 

brother just want to know ele horn or need to press de ?

[Ch3nYang]

Hi all PKs anyone know how much to change brake pump ?

[kmjoe]

Repairs / Maintenance :

* Fuel Sensor $40 (Planet)custom 4 & above

* Battery $26Yuasa/$38(plug and play) (LAB) / $35 (Planet) / $48 (Ah Koon)/ $60 woodlands road carltex (7Ah battery)

* Steering cone $55-65

* Chain Tensioner $55-60 (for tick tick sound at cold start)

* Front brake disc $45

* Tyres (metz lasertec) $160 front & back just changed on monday at planet

* Chain $70-120 depending on type

* Chain + Sprocket - $140+/-

* DID O RING with Original Honda Sprocket - $130 (planet)

* Signal lights - depending on which type you like. $8-25.

* Signal bulb, headlight bulb - 1 $ (LAB, easy DIY) (add on: approved brighter ones for $8. bought from koon.)

* Speedo BackLight + Workmanship (Planet) - S$2

* Headlight - anywhere from $35 to 90 depending the type you like.

* Spark plug - $2-20 [[ Replay once had his changed for S$2 ]]

* Engine oil - $6 -18 (jB got his lousiest EO for $3)

* Brake Pad $15-25

* Bleed and change brake fluid($10 each side)

* Air filter - $10

* Wheel ball bearings - $20-35 (depends on how mech chop u) jtzx: change for only $5 at planet

* Gear Shaft - $100 (planet)

* Clutch plate - $80 (Planet)

* Front fork (1 pair) - $330 (planet)

* Front fork seals (plus fork oil of course) - $65 (planet)

* Front fork tube (1 x) - $30 (planet)

* Rectifier - $75 (planet)

* Coil - $180 (planet)

* Rethreading of spark plug thread - between $35 - $45.

* Gasket - $30 (koon)

* Gasket @ Exhaust - $25 (Planet)

* Starter carbon - $60 (planet)

* Front fender - $45 (original honda) ($28 at ah boy, DIY 4 screws only)

* Rear brake plate w/ pad $58 (planet)

* Rear brake disc - $80 (planet)

* Original rear suspension $180 (planet)

* Repair front brake pump (jam) and replace brake oil -$25 - (planet)

* Replace entire front brake pump ($80) - (planet)

* Rear Brake Pump ($85) (planet)

* Overhaul: Piston+Ring+Block+Top gasket+EO+Plug - ($380) - (planet)

* Rear brake light 12 v 5w/18w $1 (planet)

* Clutch cable - $15 (planet) / $20 (ah koon)

* Throttle cable - $12 (planet)

* Front Brake/Clutch Lever - $8 each(planet)

* Balancer [the 2 silver thingies at the edge of your handlebars] - $15 (planet)

* Front fender -$45 (AMK HL motors)

* Spark plug cap - $18 (planet)

* regina gold chain, front & rear honda sprockets with installation at ah boy- $120

Mods and Accessories:

* Respray of bike, (front/rear mudguard + Tank) single color - $180 (H L Cycle)

* Wide handlebar (custom4 phantom type) - $38

* Wide Crashbar with mounting points for spotlights - $80

* Big Footrest - $60 madman - Pinkphantom.com

* Front\Rubber part - $5/piece @LAB

* Front\Metal base plate - $11/piece @LAB

* Rear\Eagle footrest - $25/pair @ LAB (just bought today, now is $30)

* Side box e21 - $90-180

* Zeus box 48L - $110 (Koon)

* Fuel tank - $382 contact madman or check http://www.pinkphantom.com/estore06.html

* Spotlights $35 a pair http://www.pinkphantom.com/estore11a.html

* Windshield $65-80

* Grips $10-120

* Chrome w/ rubber strips grips (LAB) - $25

* Mirrors $12(LAB) - $50 (jB got his, 8 bucks for small ones)

* Look-alike-original mirrors (shop beside LAB) - $20, LAB should be cheaper.

* Saddlebags $98-190 madman - Pinkphantom.com

* Hazard light less than $10 if u fix&wire urself, $18-20 for mech installation [[ S$15 if Replay does it for you! ]]

* Relocating rear signals to license plate - $10 (planet)

* Relocating rear signals to license plate with bracket - $28 (LAB)

* Rear box $80-330

* Voltage stabiliser - $59-$120 depends

* Rider's ORIGINAL footrest (LAB) - S$18 per side, can be cheaper?

* Stainless steel screws for speedo, and side covers. 6 to change altogether. $1-$1.80 also bought from koon.

* washers to go at 50c each at regina

* Socket for supporting the head light - $15

* Bullet Headlight - $35 (LAB)

* Gear lever with rubber $20 at koon

* Chrome gear and brake levers set - madman

* Stebel Magnum 2 (Silver) w/o installation - $18-$20 (LAB)

* Daiso electric horns (pair) - $45 (planet)

* Phantom TA 200 gearbox - $540 (planet)

* Front fender the "mudflap"- $20 at koon

* Stebel Electric horn with nice hidden installation under front chrome cover- at koon $38

* Re-wrap seat- Starts from about $38 from Eugene saddledry

* Spotlights on crashbar with installation- $35 at koon

* Crashbar- $65 from ah boy DIY

* Anchor and wide type crashbar - madman

Tow Services & Send for Inspection:

* Towing (to and fro) - $40 (Planet)

* Send for inspection - $60 (Planet)

[Ch3nYang]

thanks kmjoe ! saw it liao .. wa $85 T__T

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Of course it's the squeeze type, it wouldn't be as fun otherwise

[pureice68]

Of course it's the squeeze type, it wouldn't be as fun otherwise

 

Hahaha bro, you really got it installed? Cool!

Edited April 6, 2010 by pureice68