[Discussion] General Queries From Newbies

[kmjoe]

jus go any mototiam to fix it b4 gg inspection lo... nxt time dun wait till very last day den go inspection

[fabianau]

I did some research in SBF, a 2nd phantom typically cost around $1000 to $1500 depending on certain factors.

 

I would like to ask for a new P-Plate rider 20 years old. Usually how much is the insurance?

 

From my understanding insurance for 21 years old is lower? I will be 21 next year, let's say I haven't pass my birthday yet, should I be catergorized under 20 or 21 years old?

 

Thanks.

 

Phantom Riders out there, I saw your post on some fish-tail experience with your phantom. Is it a huge problem for you guys when riding? Also, what are the some other problems with phatoms?

[Hydher]

Hi fabian, i was an ex phantom ta200 rider for 1.5 years

 

My insurance back then around your age was 615 from ntuc for a year covering 3rd party damage claims. Being under 21, your insurance choices are limited probably only ntuc will take you. As long as you have not past your birthdate, you are under 21. hope this clarifies doubts.

 

The problem of the phantom(already considered the better) and most 2b bikes are the brakes. They are unlike cars with 4 disc and 4 tyres. Yours are 2 with 2 tyres taking a much further distance to brake. Also, having a rear box or pillion, will add on to the inertia. The design of the phantom puts the center of the weight on the rear wheel and with its longish design, you have to becareful of the rear brakes hard breaking.. especially during wet weather riding. If you can afford, change the brake disc, brake pads, tyres and brake fluid(this will greatly help with the braking) semi-synthetic engine oil, normal spark plug and air filter(get a knn air filter if you plan to renew coe!) upon take over and set aside some money for an overhaul or common wear and tear items like chains, timer and engine. If you have to have a figure, thats 5-600 aside.

 

Another problem is the engine oil. Its 1L but for my ex phantom, however around the 2000km mark of mileage, only 7-800 ML is left and thats my limit of exploit for due servicing.

 

To summarize, its the engine oil, the capabilities of speed and torque but bad braking. But as a first bike, I highly recommend this as its economical, easy to maintain and cheap. Just take note of the due coe so dun expect too much of a resale value.

 

Hydher.

[Guest peterlim.1991]

i got round to cleaning my bike..

it was all sweat but shiok..

until i reach the wheels..the rear wheels..

it is so full of whatever ..it look like the more i wash..the worse it is..

say how to avoid this dirty wheel ..

i dont ride in the rain..

what causes it to be so dirty..maybe this wheel hasnt been cleaned for years..

[BlackDawn]

i got round to cleaning my bike..

it was all sweat but shiok..

until i reach the wheels..the rear wheels..

it is so full of whatever ..it look like the more i wash..the worse it is..

say how to avoid this dirty wheel ..

i dont ride in the rain..

what causes it to be so dirty..maybe this wheel hasnt been cleaned for years..

If you mean the side of the rear wheel where the chain is, it due to the chain lubrication. You need to use a degreaser to clean it.

[kmjoe]

I did some research in SBF, a 2nd phantom typically cost around $1000 to $1500 depending on certain factors.

 

I would like to ask for a new P-Plate rider 20 years old. Usually how much is the insurance?

 

From my understanding insurance for 21 years old is lower? I will be 21 next year, let's say I haven't pass my birthday yet, should I be catergorized under 20 or 21 years old?

 

Thanks.

 

Phantom Riders out there, I saw your post on some fish-tail experience with your phantom. Is it a huge problem for you guys when riding? Also, what are the some other problems with phatoms?

 

jus dont use too much of ur rear brakes and a good rear tyre also plays a part, i used to fish tail when i was using the old one frm previous owner, den i realize it deflates v often, went to ah chong and found out alot of patched up holes and no longer able to patch up any more, got a new metz and i no longer fishtail anymore...

 

i got round to cleaning my bike..

it was all sweat but shiok..

until i reach the wheels..the rear wheels..

it is so full of whatever ..it look like the more i wash..the worse it is..

say how to avoid this dirty wheel ..

i dont ride in the rain..

what causes it to be so dirty..maybe this wheel hasnt been cleaned for years..

 

wd40 + rag or newspaper will do

[naim]

i use a degreaser to clean up d rims.. fast and easy to clean la.. no need scrub all... just use a rag.. try it! and use a good chain wax that doesnt fling much.. me using maxima chain wax nw, minimal fling so far...

[Guest peterlim.1991]

i use a degreaser to clean up d rims.. fast and easy to clean la.. no need scrub all... just use a rag.. try it! and use a good chain wax that doesnt fling much.. me using maxima chain wax nw, minimal fling so far...

 

 

thanks the method works..

it did removed the mess with a bit of effort..

 

now i have just cleaned the chains..wooah..that took me almost 2 hours..

there must be a better way...phew..

[naim]

thanks the method works..

it did removed the mess with a bit of effort..

 

now i have just cleaned the chains..wooah..that took me almost 2 hours..

there must be a better way...phew..

 

hahaha.. but its hard work paid off yah? so nice to see ur chains instead of all the dirt n grime ryt? i jux cleaned mine thoroughly recently for d 1st time.. was about 2 hours as well.. didnt knw my chain was original goldish color! too much dirt b4 i cleaned them!

 

btw, did u lube ur chain after cleaning it?

[Guest peterlim.1991]

hahaha.. but its hard work paid off yah? so nice to see ur chains instead of all the dirt n grime ryt? i jux cleaned mine thoroughly recently for d 1st time.. was about 2 hours as well.. didnt knw my chain was original goldish color! too much dirt b4 i cleaned them!

 

btw, did u lube ur chain after cleaning it?

 

i use a brush ..to apply eo..onto the chain..

but shucks...some of it stuck on to the rim already...

i do not look forward to clean it again...this is really sucks..

[fabianau]

Hi fabian, i was an ex phantom ta200 rider for 1.5 years

 

My insurance back then around your age was 615 from ntuc for a year covering 3rd party damage claims. Being under 21, your insurance choices are limited probably only ntuc will take you. As long as you have not past your birthdate, you are under 21. hope this clarifies doubts.

 

The problem of the phantom(already considered the better) and most 2b bikes are the brakes. They are unlike cars with 4 disc and 4 tyres. Yours are 2 with 2 tyres taking a much further distance to brake. Also, having a rear box or pillion, will add on to the inertia. The design of the phantom puts the center of the weight on the rear wheel and with its longish design, you have to becareful of the rear brakes hard breaking.. especially during wet weather riding. If you can afford, change the brake disc, brake pads, tyres and brake fluid(this will greatly help with the braking) semi-synthetic engine oil, normal spark plug and air filter(get a knn air filter if you plan to renew coe!) upon take over and set aside some money for an overhaul or common wear and tear items like chains, timer and engine. If you have to have a figure, thats 5-600 aside.

 

Another problem is the engine oil. Its 1L but for my ex phantom, however around the 2000km mark of mileage, only 7-800 ML is left and thats my limit of exploit for due servicing.

 

To summarize, its the engine oil, the capabilities of speed and torque but bad braking. But as a first bike, I highly recommend this as its economical, easy to maintain and cheap. Just take note of the due coe so dun expect too much of a resale value.

 

Hydher.

 

THANK YOU SO MUCH for your answers! Really had a better understanding.

20 and 21 years old, is the amount very huge difference? like above 200 more?

[deathmaster]

I did some research in SBF, a 2nd phantom typically cost around $1000 to $1500 depending on certain factors.

 

I would like to ask for a new P-Plate rider 20 years old. Usually how much is the insurance?

 

From my understanding insurance for 21 years old is lower? I will be 21 next year, let's say I haven't pass my birthday yet, should I be catergorized under 20 or 21 years old?

 

Thanks.

 

Phantom Riders out there, I saw your post on some fish-tail experience with your phantom. Is it a huge problem for you guys when riding? Also, what are the some other problems with phatoms?

 

bro, i also just passed last month. p-plate and 20.

 

insurance not cheap. i also same as you. cheapest quoted to me was AXA which quoted $1150, for third party only. ntuc would be $1300.

 

and as for the fishtail problem, yeah, the problem is quite real. on dry weather, the handling of phantom is actually not bad. but on wet road surface, the rear wheel have a tendency to fishtail, when you are doing a turn or applying rear brake. but with experience you will slowly find that this problem will become more manageable.

 

Good luck in getting your bike!

[raul7]

wow. 1150 by axa. thats alot man. almost the price for a sports bike liao

i got mine from axa last month also.

third party.

23years old.

passed TP 1+yr

$477 only

[devil.L]

whn i passed & got mine,

18yrs old,

1day old licence,

3rd party - $800+

 

1k for phantom is seriously way too much. :/

[jtzx]

i 18years old 3rd party = $745 from NTUC!

[Gennosukes]

Where do you guy usually did the paint service ? How much does it cost ? How long does it take ?

 

Did anyone done it before in jb ?

 

Sorry asking behalf of friend.

[kaieiru]

Hi guys,

 

Was wondering anyone got lobang for the larger capacity fuel tank? Is it still available?

 

Thanks in advance.

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

hi all,

just gotten my first bike (phantom) and have been riding for around 2 weeks.

 

I notice that my bike often experience high idling(high rev in neutral), after running 15-20km.

 

when engine is start cold, it is quite lean, and rpm is slightly low. Have to open throttle to maintain rpm, else it will stall.

 

but during and after a journey, especially when under the hot sun, the idling rpm slowly increases to a point where the engine vibration is abit annoying.

 

one of my friend says its probably due to air leakage in the carburator.

Any idea whats the problem? and roughly how much is the cost of the repairs?

 

IMO, quite typical for carburetted bikes. It's not smart enough to sense temperature changes, like an EFI system can. So, just reach down to the right and turn the idle adjustment knob while stationary for start, warmup, light duty, and highway riding accordingly

[Markopolo]

Hi guys just wondering how often you guys tighten and lubricate your chains.

 

and also is it possible to tighten it yourself?

 

Thanks

[jB]

haha it depends dude, its like asking how often you pump petrol ;] if you use more, it'll slack more. Also it depends on what kinda brand/model of chain you are equipped with on your bike. I shall let the others explain to you the others..

[ezzyoiler]

Hi guys just wondering how often you guys tighten and lubricate your chains.

 

and also is it possible to tighten it yourself?

 

Thanks

 

with the ezzy oiler...

 

you dont have to worry about cleaning the chain...chain cleaning sucks okay..

oiling...it does that for you..

tightening..last i heard more than 10,000 km with the ezzyoiler..

check it out with jtzx..his chain need not to tighten since he installed the oiler almost 1.5 years ago..

[Markopolo]

haha how much is the ezzyoiler for phantom?

[jtzx]

it's only $40.. Yes i'm 55kg + 3 boxes + crash bar.. My bike is that heavy.. yesterday just tighten my chain.. after so so so long ;D

[Markopolo]

it's only $40.. Yes i'm 55kg + 3 boxes + crash bar.. My bike is that heavy.. yesterday just tighten my chain.. after so so so long ;D

 

Wah .. I'm really interested.. =) lols.. even if my chain spoil i change new chain.. this still can be used for my old chain right.. what about the settings.. can i have a default settings throughout my life

[jtzx]

Wah .. I'm really interested.. =) lols.. even if my chain spoil i change new chain.. this still can be used for my old chain right.. what about the settings.. can i have a default settings throughout my life

 

interested? look for Mr ezzy oiler ;D