Small bike on PG

[Kleivard525]

Originally posted by kirra55@Apr 15 2005, 05:04 AM

First bike I raced was Kriedler 50cc, it was an old GP racing bike. They had 50cc and 75 cc class years ago. Yes I know I'm showing my age, but I started riding at 9. So not that old.

The thing is that smaller bikes will teach you far more about being a smooth and safe rider. You quickly learn that making it smooth is one way to get better, and get good racing lines.

 

Getting the combination right means it feels all together. Add that to needing to maintain momentum, and you learn just how fast it is possible to corner. How deep you can go into a corner before braking and keeping up maximum speed through the corner.

 

When I want to learn a new circuit, I use a small bike. Learn the track lines on something small. Then work on it from there.

or u can try play off road woth scramble ..when u come back to road bike u will be more agressive and better in control of your own bike..

[StingRhea]

alan, you still have your old suit? i wan to go PG after my bike comes out of workshop. I am currently saving up for 2a bike.

[SpiritualRain13]

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[Kleivard525]

Originally posted by StingRhea@May 2 2005, 05:30 PM

alan, you still have your old suit? i wan to go PG after my bike comes out of workshop. I am currently saving up for 2a bike.

sold. wat 2a bike?

[hsp_89]

saving up on gears to try on track too..

sold off my K2 before trying it on track, so guess gotta bring this huge beast down to give it a try

[StingRhea]

supermoto leh~ at least can take part comp~

[Kleivard525]

Originally posted by hsp_89@May 2 2005, 07:01 PM

saving up on gears to try on track too..

sold off my K2 before trying it on track, so guess gotta bring this huge beast down to give it a try

ST 11?? a great respect to u...

[indralove]

Originally posted by hsp_89@May 2 2005, 07:01 PM

saving up on gears to try on track too..

sold off my K2 before trying it on track, so guess gotta bring this huge beast down to give it a try

i've seen some GS1150 in the track b4 .. hope this encourages u too ..

[Fatgrunt]

alan.. need u to give me a tips or 2 on the track,some stuff i can't figure out.. =) let me try a supermoto once? ^-^ *grinz*

[Kleivard525]

i belive if u try supermoto u will not be able to get use to your sport bike coz of our light weight bike, diffrent lining , and the bike is slow in top speed

[Kleivard525]

Originally posted by StingRhea@May 2 2005, 10:51 PM

supermoto leh~ at least can take part comp~

u sure???

[Fatgrunt]

eh.. there's always a time to learn.. just that wanna give it a go.. then if i think i'm having good fun on it... will consider sharing a supermoto with ray.

[StingRhea]

ya but i dunno where to get riding gear... haiz now pretty broke.

[Kleivard525]

Originally posted by Fatgrunt@May 4 2005, 05:31 PM

eh.. there's always a time to learn.. just that wanna give it a go.. then if i think i'm having good fun on it... will consider sharing a supermoto with ray.

many of our supermoto guys r from sport bike before tat they were riding R1, TL1000 etc....and they get hook on supermoto because it fun sliding!!

[Cybourg]

I am planning to bring my old 150cc hexagon down to the track for some retirement/scrap finale racing. Not gonna go for any timing or what but just want to push this 2 stroke scooter to its limit. Would like to know if there is regulation on condition of bike that can be use on track? I got the proper gear though.

[Axxis]

I just took my CBR150 to the track and had great fun clocking slow 2:20 laps but knee scraping through every turn. I haven't timed myself on my RS125 yet but I'm quite sure I was lapping faster than on my CBR. Maybe 2:10 or slightly under at a guess.

 

The pro's can manage sub 1:40's on 125cc bikes! (taken from 1998 World GP results)

Back then Mick Doohan managed at 1:29 on a 500cc GP bike and Rossi was only 1-2 seconds slower on a 250cc Aprilia.

[Axxis]

125cc and 250cc timings

 

http://images.motogp.com/multimedia/113/113339.jpg

 

http://images.motogp.com/multimedia/114/114625.jpg

[number17]

Originally posted by Axxis@May 30 2005, 03:02 PM

I just took my CBR150 to the track and had great fun clocking slow 2:20 laps but knee scraping through every turn. I haven't timed myself on my RS125 yet but I'm quite sure I was lapping faster than on my CBR. Maybe 2:10 or slightly under at a guess.

 

The pro's can manage sub 1:40's on 125cc bikes! (taken from 1998 World GP results)

Back then Mick Doohan managed at 1:29 on a 500cc GP bike and Rossi was only 1-2 seconds slower on a 250cc Aprilia.

Dude, you're talking about MotoGP bikes here that's doing 1.34/ 1.30. Those are non production bikes.

 

Not even R1/ R6 can do dat kinda timings. Last I saw the Asia Pac races fastest guy on a CBR600 was doing 1.35. One of the fastest MRS riders I saw riding R1'04 did 1.39

[Axxis]

I know that... all I'm saying is that the size is not the issue.

I've seen a TZM at PG running 1:53 in the 5 lap race before. An indian rider on a malaysian bike. And I've been told that the quick guys on RS125's (race prepped ones, not stock) can do sub 1:50's. I certainly don't expect people on standard road issue race reps to get those kinda timings or even close.

 

Going to the track is about improving your skills so it's never pointless or stupid regardless of the size of bike you ride. I love turns 6-10 at PG on a small bike.

[number17]

Originally posted by Axxis@Jun 1 2005, 09:46 AM

I know that... all I'm saying is that the size is not the issue.

I've seen a TZM at PG running 1:53 in the 5 lap race before. An indian rider on a malaysian bike. And I've been told that the quick guys on RS125's (race prepped ones, not stock) can do sub 1:50's. I certainly don't expect people on standard road issue race reps to get those kinda timings or even close.

 

Going to the track is about improving your skills so it's never pointless or stupid regardless of the size of bike you ride. I love turns 6-10 at PG on a small bike.

Well I certainly agree wit u dude. It's the rider not the bike. I've also seen RXZ doing 1.5+

[stroker]

I've seen prillia RS125 doing consistent 1.48s...

[Axxis]

I'd love to know what speed those Aprilia RS125's are doing through turn 2 and their entry speeds into various corners.

[number17]

Originally posted by stroker@Jun 1 2005, 11:01 PM

I've seen prillia RS125 doing consistent 1.48s...

THat must be during the FIM Asian Road Racing Championships? Or one of those riders practicing.

[Lass]

if size matters, then wat is 125cc doing in the GP?

[NoLogicOne]

Originally posted by Lass@Jun 4 2005, 10:09 PM

if size matters, then wat is 125cc doing in the GP?

Then you should be happy that your's is a 150cc!!!!

 

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