SBF Silverwings Cafe 2008 - JDM/Euro 400/600

[chung]

anyone interested in heavy balancer??

 

i'm interested

[chung]

Can I actually change the brake hose to steel brake hose for a Sliverwing?

 

I find the brake not that effective for sudden slow down

 

 

I'm interested too

[silverwing73]

can be done @ motoworld.

might need to wait for shipment cause they don't really keep stock for scooters.

 

or alternatively, can check with motovation for their venhill brake lines.

 

Okie, thanks

 

I also notice that Silverwing only has 2 brake disc compared to my previosu X9 which got 3 brake disc....why so ? Honda braking system very good ?

[bigcow]

Okie, thanks

 

I also notice that Silverwing only has 2 brake disc compared to my previosu X9 which got 3 brake disc....why so ? Honda braking system very good ?

 

dun be surprise, sw has very good braking power.

as for the brake disc, there is a reason why the manufacturers make only 2 disc for this bike, cos its more than enough.

[scoobydoo]

there is a reason why the manufacturers make only 2 disc for this bike, cos its more than enough.

hmmm... the notion of sufficient is very subjective and sometimes dangerous to assume as it depends on many variables such as biker's riding style, speed, bike condition, riding/environmental conditions, etc. ... just my feelings after recovering from an accident

 

there could be many other reasons, apart from sufficiency. the japanese are famous for producing low priced quality products which are results of controlling cost without sacrificing too much quality. a technique commonly used in manufacturing is target costing. riders would very much like to have many aspects of the bike improved. but to the designers/producers, there is a targeted cost (cap) to keep, which affects their profitability and affordability of the bike for its target market

 

i happen to be joking with my friend last weekend about how nice if the stock SW were to come with steel braided brake hoses, dual disk front brakes, ABS, high performance exhaust, grounding, power abuser, low EMI ignition system, heavy stainless steel balancers, powered adjustable/ foldable rear-view mirrors, powered height adjustable windscreen, 2-way alarm system, hazard/parking lights, GPS mounting, etc.

his reply was... i may not want to pay so much for a maxi-scoot

[h_LoNg]

Quoted from http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180304

As long as it is 3 line, We charge you the promotional prices inclusive of prices!! Regardless of bike models!

 

 

Galfer Stainless steel brakeline

$170 inclusive of installation.

Anyone interested???

Gather and go together?

[HelmetBOX1605198525]

Quoted from http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180304

 

 

 

Galfer Stainless steel brakeline

$170 inclusive of installation.

Anyone interested???

Gather and go together?

 

don't think is the price for sw

[HelmetBOX1605198525]

hmmm... the notion of sufficient is very subjective and sometimes dangerous to assume as it depends on many variables such as biker's riding style, speed, bike condition, riding/environmental conditions, etc. ... just my feelings after recovering from an accident

 

there could be many other reasons, apart from sufficiency. the japanese are famous for producing low priced quality products which are results of controlling cost without sacrificing too much quality. a technique commonly used in manufacturing is target costing. riders would very much like to have many aspects of the bike improved. but to the designers/producers, there is a targeted cost (cap) to keep, which affects their profitability and affordability of the bike for its target market

 

i happen to be joking with my friend last weekend about how nice if the stock SW were to come with steel braided brake hoses, dual disk front brakes, ABS, high performance exhaust, grounding, power abuser, low EMI ignition system, heavy stainless steel balancers, powered adjustable/ foldable rear-view mirrors, powered height adjustable windscreen, 2-way alarm system, hazard/parking lights, GPS mounting, etc.

his reply was... i may not want to pay so much for a maxi-scoot

 

wow targeting costing....

hahaah

you studying management accounting?? still got TQM...

[chung]

steel brake hose really make a difference?

 

Quoted from

Galfer Stainless steel brakeline

$170 inclusive of installation.

Anyone interested???

Gather and go together?

[scoobydoo]

you studying management accounting?? still got TQM...

pai sei pai sei... accounting is my rice-bowl

 

steel brake hose really make a difference?

heard from a mechanic that some riders skidded becoz still not used to the more sensitive braking that results from the steel braided brake hoses... dunno how true

[william_liu]

Don't think the steel braided hoses will make such a big difference to cause an accident... the main diff is a more consistent feel, plus it helps to maintain the quality of the brake fluid in the braking system.

 

It doesn't really increase braking power per se.... although it may result in the rider being able (once he is familiar with it) to brake harder in times of need due to increased feel.

[anodise57]

anyone interested in heavy balancer??

 

already changed to Motovation balancer + BMW handgrips... WOOHOOOO

[anodise57]

don't think is the price for sw

 

i agree too... cos i chatted with Alvin b4.. he mention Swinger needs longer cable... and troublesome.... heheheh

[anodise57]

Don't think the steel braided hoses will make such a big difference to cause an accident... the main diff is a more consistent feel, plus it helps to maintain the quality of the brake fluid in the braking system.

 

It doesn't really increase braking power per se.... although it may result in the rider being able (once he is familiar with it) to brake harder in times of need due to increased feel.

 

 

I think there is Link brake system where the front 3 port, rear 2 port. So when rear being tapped, front middle 1 port will be activated.. In doing so the brake power increases.. Save cost and still not compromising the safety....

[anodise57]

yo michael, can i exchange bike with u? i am interested to try out ur bike after u have upgrade ur rear suspension. Maybe find 1 sat evening go kulai nasi lemak or wat.

 

 

maybe if got chance... .even a short ride to GP town will let u feel the diff already.. hahahah

[bigcow]

i happen to be joking with my friend last weekend about how nice if the stock SW were to come with steel braided brake hoses, dual disk front brakes, ABS, high performance exhaust, grounding, power abuser, low EMI ignition system, heavy stainless steel balancers, powered adjustable/ foldable rear-view mirrors, powered height adjustable windscreen, 2-way alarm system, hazard/parking lights, GPS mounting, etc.

his reply was... i may not want to pay so much for a maxi-scoot

 

you could have bought a burgman 650. at least 50% of the items u stated is on this bike

[Ni3KiDz]

pai sei pai sei... accounting is my rice-bowl

 

 

heard from a mechanic that some riders skidded becoz still not used to the more sensitive braking that results from the steel braided brake hoses... dunno how true

 

Steel braided hoses dun increase brakin power just that when ridin for long distance the normal rubber type hose will expand and therefore u will have the fade brake feel but not steel braided one cos it dun expand that much compare to norm one. it will give u more constant feel throughout ur ride.....

oso wat brake fluid & hw they bleed play a very big part in the feel..must make sure they bleed till there no air inside.... if not it will have spongy feel

[scoobydoo]

you could have bought a burgman 650. at least 50% of the items u stated is on this bike

price is outside my budget leh

[zero_degrees]

Sorry for the noobish question but what does balancer help in the handling? Makes the bike more stable? Please advise, thanks....

 

Btw the BMW handgrips only sold in BMW shop or are there some other shops selling? Especially in the east?

[Maos Adventure]

Btw the BMW handgrips only sold in BMW shop or are there some other shops selling? Especially in the east?

 

try M-Tehnik @ 51 Ubi Ave 1 #05

but will be abit more ex than purchasing yourself @ PML.

[scoobydoo]

... what does balancer help in the handling? Makes the bike more stable? ...

balancers are the metallic thingy attached to the 2 ends of the handle-bar. see pic below:

 

http://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore/ProdImages/ssh01_lg.jpg

 

they're not big/heavy enough to have a stabilizing effect on the bike but rather, it works like a dampener to reduce vibrations at the ends of the handlebar, reducing the discomfort on the riders' hands/palms. imagine the handle bar as a tuning fork... secured at the middle and its 2 ends hanging out. vibrations from the engine/bike is transmitted to it, causing the ends to vibrate.

 

http://www.tomleemusic.ca/images/inventory/8897_t.jpg balancers makes the moving ends heavier, thus increasing mass inertia and reducing its "ability" to vibrate (in layman terms). heavier balancers are produced to serve this purpose... whether they work well is up to the users to decide

[anodise57]

well said scooby!!!!!! Cheers.....

[contacted]

ooo i always tot it was only for cosmetic purposes...

[scoobydoo]

already changed to Motovation balancer + BMW handgrips... WOOHOOOO

how much did u pay for them? i paid $50+ for the Motov balancers 2 months ago... still wondering if kenna carrot or not

[Scarab]

Sorry for the noobish question but what does balancer help in the handling? Makes the bike more stable? Please advise, thanks....

 

Btw the BMW handgrips only sold in BMW shop or are there some other shops selling? Especially in the east?

 

I got a pair of unused ones, if you want, sell you for $30..