Car drivers engine etiqutte

[Jehuty]

How come most of them don't warm up their cars? They just start and drive off like that, are most cars equipped with some sort of

heater?

[Lexanez]

You forgot that most car drivers do not know anything about their vehicles. Those who knows, will take time to warm up. This also applies to riders as well.

[kelena]

some manuals actually advocate moving off as soon as possible, relaxing on the gas pedal. that would let the oil warm up to the required temp most efficiently..

others say that warming up stationary is best cuz cold engine parts suffer the highest wear..

 

but then again, how many of us actually keep the car long enough for the detrimental effects of moving off immediately to come into play?

 

for me, warming up the car = time for a smoke break.

[fufu]

some manuals actually advocate moving off as soon as possible, relaxing on the gas pedal. that would let the oil warm up to the required temp most efficiently..

others say that warming up stationary is best cuz cold engine parts suffer the highest wear..

 

but then again, how many of us actually keep the car long enough for the detrimental effects of moving off immediately to come into play?

 

for me, warming up the car = time for a smoke break.

 

thats true. few ride/drive long enough to see the effects and thus all is a myth to some extent

[kmax]

You forgot that most car drivers do not know anything about their vehicles. Those who knows, will take time to warm up. This also applies to riders as well.

 

Those who never catch up with new technology or still riding old bike (or staying in cold country) need to warm up.

 

new bikes have auto-choke, EFI no need to warm up for long.

 

•An idling engine releases twice as many exhaust fumes than a vehicle in motion.

•No more than 30 seconds of idling is needed for oil to circulate through your engine. Many components, such as the wheel bearings, tires and suspension system will only warm up once the vehicle is moving.

•Restarting your car many times has little impact on engine components, adding only around $10 per year to the cost of driving, money that is recovered in fuel savings.

•Ten seconds of idling uses more fuel than restarting the engine.

•Idling can damage your engine since it is not operating at its peak temperature where fuel is completely burned. Fuel residue from incomplete burning can damage engine parts.

•Idling a vehicle for 10 minutes a day uses an average of 100 litres of gas a year. If gas costs 70 cents a litre, you will save $70 per year, just by turning your key.

[kmax]

http://www.motherearthnews.com/ask-our-experts/car-engine-warm-up.aspx

 

Most importantly, it does indeed waste gas.

 

The vast majority of cars on the road today use electronic fuel injection. When your car’s engine is cold, the computer tells the fuel injectors to stay open longer, allowing more fuel into the engine to help it run cold.

 

Read more: http://www.motherearthnews.com/ask-our-experts/car-engine-warm-up.aspx#ixzz1ZPFbf4lW

[Jehuty]

I see2, so you guys don't warm up your EFI bikes?

[fufu]

I see2, so you guys don't warm up your EFI bikes?

 

i still prefer to believe the myths and warm up to a certain degree b4 i move off. normally around 60 degree b4 moving off slowly til i reach the first traffic light

[papabread79]

Not all bikes need to warm up.

[Lexanez]

Those who never catch up with new technology or still riding old bike (or staying in cold country) need to warm up.

 

new bikes have auto-choke, EFI no need to warm up for long.

 

•An idling engine releases twice as many exhaust fumes than a vehicle in motion.

•No more than 30 seconds of idling is needed for oil to circulate through your engine. Many components, such as the wheel bearings, tires and suspension system will only warm up once the vehicle is moving.

•Restarting your car many times has little impact on engine components, adding only around $10 per year to the cost of driving, money that is recovered in fuel savings.

•Ten seconds of idling uses more fuel than restarting the engine.

•Idling can damage your engine since it is not operating at its peak temperature where fuel is completely burned. Fuel residue from incomplete burning can damage engine parts.

•Idling a vehicle for 10 minutes a day uses an average of 100 litres of gas a year. If gas costs 70 cents a litre, you will save $70 per year, just by turning your key.

 

I see, I apologize for my lack of understanding and information. I definitely agree on idling while waiting for long traffic lights, I usually turn off my engine, I didn't know about this at all!

 

Hmm, this would in line with the school of thought that theorize that people should move off slowly to warm up their engines immediately after starting but modified to wait for about 30 to 60 seconds before moving off.

[ghost04]

i only scared off engine at traffic lights then about time to move off cannot start back!! lol!

[Andr3w]

FJR manual insist its a must for owners to warm up before riding.

[GuiNNeSS]

Modern engines are manufactured to extremely high level of tolerance. Components like auto choke, ECU programmed for cold starts and all that is great!

Yes you can drive your car/bike off at the turn of the key at 6am in the morning.

 

But, one thing vehicles don't have yet are oil warmers. Each oil has optimum operational temperatures.

 

Whether or not the extra wear that occurs is worth the waste in fuel? for each to decide.

[crazydj]

I would say its because car got alot of technology inside to do everything automatically. Not like most primitive bikes which only got carpiter.

[Jehuty]

Carb leceh to set, need skill, need to do testing.

[CSV]

for carb bikes, need to warm up, since no temp sensor.

 

for most efi engines, car and bikes alike, 30 seconds of warm up is enough.

 

i don't mind warming up actually, use the time to put on gear and check bike.

 

alot of car driver also dont warm up, start engine, rev out liao.

[CSV]

for carb bikes, need to warm up, since no temp sensor.

 

for most efi engines, car and bikes alike, 30 seconds of warm up is enough.

 

i don't mind warming up actually, use the time to put on gear and check bike.

 

alot of car driver also dont warm up, start engine, rev out liao.

[runjoerun]

I don't warm up my 10 year old Super Four Hyper Vtec, a cabburatted engine. I would try to ride it slower than usual for 20 to 30 secs before riding at normal speed. No known issue so far. I believe if I follow the manufacturer guidelines in usage and maintenance, my bike is fine.

[nullifi3d]

i never ride my r6 when the temp reads Lo C. The best is to move off one it hits 70+ degrees C. And i don't whack the bike, just smooth throttling and change gears at 3-4K RPM. After about 10 mins of riding then i'll increase the intensity.

 

Same applies to my car. I believe engines need some degree of warmup especially after many hours of non-function.

[Icomeforyou]

If warm up bike, (GSR400) my bike moving off no knocking sound,

 

if never warm up got knocking sound...

 

Is knocking sound bad?

[bluelabel]

I would usually turn on the engine and slowly switching on the radio and search for a channel and then switch on the a/c and slowly take all the things out of my pocket... so at least 3 min before i move off and i dont really think its critical to warn up your car before moving off... It seems to be fine..Not like Bikes where it starts to knock.

[GuiNNeSS]

I believe in warming up any engines a bit before moving off. Listen to the sound, assess the vibrations and double check your blind spots and mirrors and seat comfort.

 

Why? Because of a experience with merc driver, who listened to his car after it started and heard cat meowing. Turns out, Mummy cat gave birth in his car engine, and during the morning when he warmed up his vehicle, the belt had whished her into the belt.....Its a good thing he turned off engine immediately. And he had the mechanic cut his fan belt to save the mummy cat.

[bluelabel]

I believe in warming up any engines a bit before moving off. Listen to the sound, assess the vibrations and double check your blind spots and mirrors and seat comfort.

 

Why? Because of a experience with merc driver, who listened to his car after it started and heard cat meowing. Turns out, Mummy cat gave birth in his car engine, and during the morning when he warmed up his vehicle, the belt had whished her into the belt.....Its a good thing he turned off engine immediately. And he had the mechanic cut his fan belt to save the mummy cat.

 

There was wallaby stuck in my friends car before.. Almost turn the engine on when he heard some weird sound.. He open and saw a cute wallaby stuck.

[redbeacon]

http://www.motherearthnews.com/ask-our-experts/car-engine-warm-up.aspx

 

Most importantly, it does indeed waste gas.

 

The vast majority of cars on the road today use electronic fuel injection. When your car’s engine is cold, the computer tells the fuel injectors to stay open longer, allowing more fuel into the engine to help it run cold.

 

Read more: http://www.motherearthnews.com/ask-o...#ixzz1ZPFbf4lW

 

I like how this person explains it. K.I.S.S.

[Idono]

I don't know abt turning off engines for bikes at traffic stops. (probably only do so if i think my bike is going to overheat). As for car, restarting the engine actually consumes more petrol than leaving it idle. Unless you know you're going to idle for like more than 5min, otherwise, just keep the engine running, it's less "damaging" anyway.

 

As for warming engines. At least on my previous smaller cc bikes (which includes a super 4), they do need some warm-up time especially if bike is not used for a few days. Else, it may just die off. So typically, I need to stay on throttle for a 10s or so, then let the engine warm up by itself. No such need for cars as someone mentioned above. Well... unless you have a really old model or carb engines (altho I believe the newest technology do not need as well)