[Technical] Queries for TA200

[Defiantx]

You should check your tire pressures and condition of chain and sprockets. Under-inflated tires and worn chain and sprockets can cause poor FC.

 

I checked my tire pressure at every service and my chain too. everything is normmal

[ezzyoiler]

i suggest you clean your carburetta and retune your bike..go for a top overhaul..first..

at 50k km... time or a top overhaul..

[yeukeong]

Hi guys,

 

I just bought a TA200 3 months ago. Over this three months my FC is no more than 28km/L. I change my spark plug every 1.5k. Changed air filter, battery, washed carburettor.

 

Many people told me phantom can easily reach 35km/l but my bike cant do it. I tried travelling max 90km/h before too but still wont help. I used esso 98 as fuel.

 

Really hope you guys can help because the consumption really CMI. I can nv reach more than 250km before reserve. Really hope you guys can help me

 

250km before reserve is ready bad!!!!

 

U just wash ur carb, but d they tune it???

 

For me

Tire pressure is one the factors that increase FC but worn out tire due to increase contact surface & carry extra load such as riding with pillion...Drink more fuel!!!!!!

[jtzx]

cub need to retune... if tires and everything is fine, most prob can be your cub tuning.....

 

try going easy on your trottle?

[Zhi Ming]

Maybe you wanna try this:

 

Inflate front tire to 225PSI and rear to 255PSI , lube chain , keep your acceleration as light as possible and maintain max top speed of 80km/hr. If still below 30km/l , then really something wrong liao...

[ezzyoiler]

you sure your bike odo is 50k km...and not 150k km?

[Hydher]

hi, first things first, hw do u calculate ur fc?

[Icomeforyou]

I recently also suffering poor fc, granted I'm not exactly light on throttle, but neither am i dead heavy.... its averaging 28km/l now...

 

Does engine oil affect fc? I used Caltex Techron 95 same, SPC 95, same.... my phantom now 66k mileage..... tires always 230, chain got oiler..

 

@Hydher: FC calculate like that, when you refuel the next time, take note of your mileage, for e.g.

 

I pump petrol now current odo = 1000

After riding a few days hit reserve go pump petrol again

Odo reading: 1300

So you rode 300km, pump your petrol till full tank... and see

how many liters you pump: for e.g. 8l

Take the difference in odo reading = 1300 - 1000 = 300

Divided by liters of petrol: 300/8 = 37.5km/l

^^ Your fc

[CSV]

could be a problem with carburettor, maybe it's running rich.

 

as usual, we need the super pro kitten to help. now where is he?????

 

check your tires, check your idling.

 

if all else fails, ride to ah chong at planet motorcycle and ask him troubleshoot.

[Silent Hunter]

First check the usual,

1. Tire pressure

2. Chains are well oiled

 

If the first two don't solve the problem

3. Carburator retune.

Screw the air/fuel mixture screw in all the way to make it richest, then unscrew fully to find the max number of turns for the screw to pop out. Then screw back in 1/2 way in. When I was experiementing with the airbox, I was afraid my fuel air ratio was too lean, so I screwed it in nearly all the way in, and my FC became about 25km/L But I didn't know until I kena stranded in the middle of the NSHW. KNN....

4. Check your brakes and wheel bearings.

Are the brakes rubbing against the brake disk? Are the wheels able to turn without resistence? If you off engine an push and can hear sound, then it's time to go workshop and get it fixed.

[SNapEl]

Clutch plates.

[Hydher]

I recently also suffering poor fc, granted I'm not exactly light on throttle, but neither am i dead heavy.... its averaging 28km/l now...

 

Does engine oil affect fc? I used Caltex Techron 95 same, SPC 95, same.... my phantom now 66k mileage..... tires always 230, chain got oiler..

 

@Hydher: FC calculate like that, when you refuel the next time, take note of your mileage, for e.g.

 

I pump petrol now current odo = 1000

After riding a few days hit reserve go pump petrol again

Odo reading: 1300

So you rode 300km, pump your petrol till full tank... and see

how many liters you pump: for e.g. 8l

Take the difference in odo reading = 1300 - 1000 = 300

Divided by liters of petrol: 300/8 = 37.5km/l

^^ Your fc

 

you'd be suprised how some people dont know this. hey.. try esso 95

[CSV]

first day of riding motorbike in public roads......terrifying.

 

and amazingly, i found my way to office without knowing roads or GPS. just using landmark.

 

exterior of bike looks good, but small problems here and there. throttle wont roll back, hard to engage N.

 

i hope i didn't buy a lemon.

[CSV]

wah sian, i really bought a lemon. well, not that bad but a half lemon.

 

forks are leaking oil (mensus maybe)

 

rear brake pads are finished.

 

throw to Unique Motorsport at Toh Guan, ask them do a full service for my poor bike.

 

Looking forward to seeing how it will ride with new engine oil and cleaned carbs.

 

and i ran out of fuel while riding on lane 2 on the CTE. funking scary, suddenly whole bike shake and vibrate, quickly stop at a sideroad and turn to reserve (havent master how to switch to res while riding).

[Kevs]

first day of riding motorbike in public roads......terrifying.

 

and amazingly, i found my way to office without knowing roads or GPS. just using landmark.

 

exterior of bike looks good, but small problems here and there. throttle wont roll back, hard to engage N.

 

i hope i didn't buy a lemon.

 

wah sian, i really bought a lemon. well, not that bad but a half lemon.

 

forks are leaking oil (mensus maybe)

 

rear brake pads are finished.

 

throw to Unique Motorsport at Toh Guan, ask them do a full service for my poor bike.

 

Looking forward to seeing how it will ride with new engine oil and cleaned carbs.

 

and i ran out of fuel while riding on lane 2 on the CTE. funking scary, suddenly whole bike shake and vibrate, quickly stop at a sideroad and turn to reserve (havent master how to switch to res while riding).

 

1) Check Throttle Cable, could be worn or being snapped. Otherwise, open up the right hand side console & check the throttle sleeve & cable head if its still in condition.

Oya, old & worn throttle grips may slip on the sleeve also...

Replace if neccessary.

 

2) Check Clutch Cable, description same as above, otherwise, if cable's fine, adjust the cable adjustment nuts either @ lever there or clutch housing there.

Last but not least & crossfingers, your clutch plates, maybe worn & need replacement.

 

3) Fork leaking is common as the bike gets old, see if can by just servicing & replacement of the fork seals is suffice, otherwise, replace the fork sleeves altogether with the seals, warning thou, may costs more than just servicing.

 

4) Brake pads are wear & tear and inevitable to be replaced, so get it replace.

 

5) Gota quickly master to turn to reserve OTR! lol..

Neway, just gota rmber whats the mileage you've done so that you'll roughly know when you'll hit reserve & be prepared.

 

6) IMO, washing of carb is not really a need unless you're suffering frm bad FC problems. As the internals, i.e. jet pin, float & seals may worn or damage if too excessive washing is done.

 

just my 0.01¢..

[CSV]

yeah, i left it at Unique for them to do a whole service.

 

the throttle cable is gone, the carb is dirty...you know.

 

sucks. but at least no major engine problems. and the shifting is because i'm not used to it, whew.

[VidaK]

first day of riding motorbike in public roads......terrifying.

 

and amazingly, i found my way to office without knowing roads or GPS. just using landmark.

 

exterior of bike looks good, but small problems here and there. throttle wont roll back, hard to engage N.

 

i hope i didn't buy a lemon.

 

a A5 sized street directory is quite essential for the new rider...

 

wah sian, i really bought a lemon. well, not that bad but a half lemon.

 

forks are leaking oil (mensus maybe)

 

rear brake pads are finished.

 

throw to Unique Motorsport at Toh Guan, ask them do a full service for my poor bike.

 

Looking forward to seeing how it will ride with new engine oil and cleaned carbs.

 

and i ran out of fuel while riding on lane 2 on the CTE. funking scary, suddenly whole bike shake and vibrate, quickly stop at a sideroad and turn to reserve (havent master how to switch to res while riding).

 

and nah those are normal wear and tear... lemons are those with gearbox problems, engine problems, et cetera... so its not so bad for now

[CSV]

i got gps on my phone! haha. but still moving my head to check my location and the traffic abit dangerous.

 

just wanna learn the roads as fast as possible.

 

and only way to do that is to ride more and often.

[Kevs]

yeah, i left it at Unique for them to do a whole service.

 

the throttle cable is gone, the carb is dirty...you know.

 

sucks. but at least no major engine problems. and the shifting is because i'm not used to it, whew.

 

pardon my directness, but how do one define the carb's dirty?

other than petrol and or filtered air's going thru it, it shouldnt be that really dirty isnt it?

unless the bike's air filter has not been replaced or serviced(K&N) for a really long time or the tank's seeping water into the carbs, it should be in a good condition itself. no?

 

i got gps on my phone! haha. but still moving my head to check my location and the traffic abit dangerous.

 

just wanna learn the roads as fast as possible.

 

and only way to do that is to ride more and often.

 

always have a habit of pre-ride route plan beforehand.

when reading maps, try to rmber where's the destination point, rmber nearby distinctive landmarks, how and where of the major and minor roads.

go slow if unassure of where, stop & park @ side not blocking to traffic to read yr maps again if needed...

 

a A5 sized street directory is quite essential for the new rider...

 

 

 

and nah those are normal wear and tear... lemons are those with gearbox problems, engine problems, et cetera... so its not so bad for now

 

talk abt lemon.. mine's a lemon...

[Hydher]

wah sian, i really bought a lemon. well, not that bad but a half lemon.

 

forks are leaking oil (mensus maybe)

 

rear brake pads are finished.

 

throw to Unique Motorsport at Toh Guan, ask them do a full service for my poor bike.

 

Looking forward to seeing how it will ride with new engine oil and cleaned carbs.

 

and i ran out of fuel while riding on lane 2 on the CTE. funking scary, suddenly whole bike shake and vibrate, quickly stop at a sideroad and turn to reserve (havent master how to switch to res while riding).

 

Hey be safe to you and others dun run out on petrol on the road.

Use http://www.oneshift.com maps to plan your routes beforehand

 

Dont worry. These investments will benefit you.

 

cheers

[jtzx]

used to write the routes on a piece of paper and place it on my Tank.

 

But

 

With my nokia phone with GPS, Everything is going good. Custom DIY ( Jeans material ) a holder lor..

 

 

But safety first bro=p

[CSV]

LEMON TIME!

 

guess what. another problem surfaced.

 

erratic idling. for some reason, overnight, the bike started to idle erratic.

 

one moment it would be low then next super high. and everytime i twist the throttle, the engine dies.

 

it's defintely the carburettor playing the games, but i'm not exactly sure which part. jetting perhaps. any suggestions? its in my parent's home in malaysia btw, after the very exciting ride there.

[RaysonSKS]

Hi all,

 

I new to riding

Been riding for the past 3 months, Anone know what wrong with my TA200?

Problem: My engine die off in netural mode right after start engine. therefore need to maintain throttle to keep the engine alive.

[ezzyoiler]

LEMON TIME!

 

guess what. another problem surfaced.

 

erratic idling. for some reason, overnight, the bike started to idle erratic.

 

one moment it would be low then next super high. and everytime i twist the throttle, the engine dies.

 

it's defintely the carburettor playing the games, but i'm not exactly sure which part. jetting perhaps. any suggestions? its in my parent's home in malaysia btw, after the very exciting ride there.

 

 

there are many reasons...

the symptom u mentioned suggest a flodded carb

i would check the carb float bowl....making sure it can work well...

just bt doing this ..you can check fuel cleaniless..float valve working...

 

if this fails to so;ve it...get a mech to sort it out..

..

[VidaK]

Hi all,

 

I new to riding

Been riding for the past 3 months, Anone know what wrong with my TA200?

Problem: My engine die off in netural mode right after start engine. therefore need to maintain throttle to keep the engine alive.

 

hmmm maybe the idling is too low? try increasing the idling first...