Helmet and Tinted visors issues

[bujang_senang]

am juz wondering...why TP and ROV etc love to go after us bikers?? are we like sitting ducks fer em or they juz got some beef with us bikers?

 

juz sharing with u fellow riders my own personal experience...

 

i kena roadblock on my way back home one late sat nite...as usual slowed down and stopped when i reached the officer..

 

killed my engine and raised my visor...(wearin full face tinted visor)..saw the TP looking at me one kind and i know deep down i'm in fer a rough time..

 

he asked me if i've been drinking...said no and the standard SOP..(breath analyzer etc)

 

then he stared at my helmet..he said y my visor tinted..i told him i ride daily to work with the glaring sun in my face in the morning and on my way back in the evening..i get blinded by the sun..i can't wear sunglasses as i need specs...so the next best thing is to get tinted visor...he stared at me and went to inspect my bike...

 

he then picked on my full system exhaust..asked me start bike and blow till 7k rpm...i did as instructed...my pipe by then is slightly louder then as the packing inside is burned off due to usage (i guess so la...this is wat my mech tell me)..but it is def LEGAL...bought it from MW...gone thru inspection w/o any prob..then he accused me of getting illegal system...i took out my photocopied cert of approval from LTA...he looked at it and was clearly displeased that i've paper to back me up...

 

by this time..some of his collegues had already gathered ard us to see wat's going on...i then heard one of em tellin him to let me go as their main objective is to catch the drink drivers..not penalise ppl fer this small things...

 

i thank God that officer said that..God bless him

 

he then handed me back the paper...he looked at me (and i could have sworn) he growled at me not to wear the tinted visor anymore or the next time i wun be so lucky... i wonder wat he meant...fine perhaps?

 

this happen quiet a while back..early this yr...but upon readin this thread..the memory floods back and juz wanna share with the fellow bros and sis here...

 

anyone had similar exp? or is it juz me that the authorities are pickin on us bikers more than car/lorries etc? how come they dun intercept those ****in lorries who go on center lane at expressways and are clearly travellin above the speed limit with load? whereas fer us bikes..they always seems to be in the 'correct' place at the 'correct' time?

[eedwinn]

Am thinking of getting an additional tinted visor for my helmet for day use as the sun sometimes is really too glaring!

 

Contact lenses are too troublesome for me to put on if I want to use shades, so do you guys think I should go ahead?

 

Besides, tinted visor looks so much cooler!!!

[eyke]

As the arguement upon psb approved helmet too......Some pple want to look nice with helmet while disregarding safety.

 

look nice, don't want life?

 

http://imagenl.asia1.com.sg/image/photographics/ST/2008/10/10340026.jpg

 

 

TP/LTA should go after the shops selling these toy helmets.

[InfiniteSky]

With effect from 1st July 2004, riders and pillions will be allowed to wear tinted visors which have at least 70% light transmittance.

http://driving-in-singapore.spf.gov.sg/services/Driving_in_Singapore/Faq/visorfaq.htm

[xcore]

i got stopped by TP and tiger squad when i wearing my monkey face helmet (smth like scrambler helmet) that doesnt have any psb approved stickers but both times never bother bout the helmet, i think most of them will close one eye regarding the psb sticker thing.

 

Anyway why hasnt anyone thought of like removing the sticker from a cheap 40 approved helmet and just pasting it on your 400+ ff helmet? hahahahah. sorry abit lame but cant resist saying it.

[Raptor]

 

TP/LTA should go after the shops selling these toy helmets.

 

That HAVE the PSB sticker.

 

Alot of cheap Made in Thailand with coconut shell helmets have the PSB approved sticker on them.

 

Alot of expensive Snell and DOT helmets do not have the PSB approved sticker on them....

 

That is how expensive your head is to the authorities.

[zack88]

tio again... waste my money again...early in the morning i see ghost liao... haiz... and their child next time no hole.... no guts yet wanna act... ask them go jb la... see can ya ya again or not...

[Snoek]

Anyway, is pillion alowed to wear tinted visor which less than 70%?

 

My fren's pillion just gt caught for wearing tinted visor.summon the rider. lol

[Amireaux]

wad i really dun understand is dat isn't wearing shades or sunglasses d same as wearing tinted visors? i mean, ur eyes look thru the visors, n ur eyes also look thru d shades.

 

if they wanna argue abt visability, well i can bet dat some of d shades are 110% fully tinted. i'm refering to those totally black shades.

 

so wats d point? are'nt both of these applies the same function? looking thru a coloured field of vision?

 

sum more visors help to protect from particles hitting ur face.

 

if any TPs in d forum reading this. u might wanna consider voicing out to ur higher authorities.

 

Just got stopped by TP for my visor recently and got fined 50 bucks regardless of our lengthy debate over why shades are allowed and tinted visors are not.

 

Their logic is this(according to the f**** TP who stopped me):

 

The difference between sunglasses and tinted visors is that, IF it rains, out of sudden a sudden on a sunny day, and it gets dark while you are wearing your sunglasses, you can take it off and flip down your clear visor. However, if you're using a tinted visor, you cant flip up your visor to allow yourself to see better, because the rain will hit your face and it will hurt and you will have to blink more and you will lose control and you will skid and you will fall and you will die.

[kurarensu]

Just got stopped by TP for my visor recently and got fined 50 bucks regardless of our lengthy debate over why shades are allowed and tinted visors are not.

 

Their logic is this(according to the f**** TP who stopped me):

 

The difference between sunglasses and tinted visors is that, IF it rains, out of sudden a sudden on a sunny day, and it gets dark while you are wearing your sunglasses, you can take it off and flip down your clear visor. However, if you're using a tinted visor, you cant flip up your visor to allow yourself to see better, because the rain will hit your face and it will hurt and you will have to blink more and you will lose control and you will skid and you will fall and you will die.

 

lidat also can.. you tell him raining day i dont ride my bike.. i will park at shelter and wait for rain to stop..

 

or u can say then sunglass i take out i put where? if i hang @ my tshirt i ride halfway the sunglass fly off and hit other ppl or cause them to skid and accident how?

[revospeed]

What happen if i were to wear sunglasses with flipped up fully tinted visor?

[rizaldinho]

What happen if i were to wear sunglasses with flipped up fully tinted visor?

 

like that even if the sun on top of ur head, its still be as dark as the darkest night.

[Topnut]

Does anyone know where to get those legal 70% visors ? I heard they only come in light smoke right? What are the other 70% light transmission colours?

[danchen]

dun bother... the LTA 70% rule is as good as "No tinted visor allowed."

just put 70% for show only...

even the light smoke visors like only 65%, meaning if you buy, prepare to get fined. Its a scam !

[adnoh]

just got a full face helmet without PSB sticker.. and it seems much harder and stronger den my MFIZZ evo 2... and comparing Evo 2 to roll bahn full face helmet.. evo 2 is much much softer:S like if u step on the helmet from the side will break anytime.. and its slightly tinted..

 

will like to ask if anyone gt fine recently riding without PSB sticker..? and how much the fine is... heard from some guy that the fine would be 70$ and 3 demerit points.. is that true?

[maosi21]

That HAVE the PSB sticker.

 

Alot of cheap Made in Thailand with coconut shell helmets have the PSB approved sticker on them.

 

Alot of expensive Snell and DOT helmets do not have the PSB approved sticker on them....

 

That is how expensive your head is to the authorities.

 

One of the reasons for this is because of the shops that bring in the helmets.

 

the way the PSB gives out sticker i believe, is basically a shop, or someone who wants to get the sticker for a helmet, is that you buy several, and you have to give i'm not sure if it's one or several to the PSB people who will then do their own tests.

 

The tests may not be up to the standards of SNELL or DOT, because I'm sure the SNELL and DOT standard tests are more intensive than what PSB has. (just my opinion, cause you can't buy a SNELL or DOT **** for $30)

 

So for a shop to buy so many helmets and send to PSB and possibly not get it back, those bloody helmets better sell like hotcakes, if not a shop would probably say not worth their time and effort if 1 person special request for it.

 

Not profitable mah.

 

So the shops bring in the ones people will buy which is the cheapo ones, that pass PSB test, get sticker, that people who don't price their head that high buy (and there's quite a lot of them), and the shop make money.

 

So what does the shop learn from that? Buy Cheap helmets, because more people want cheap helmets than the expensive ones. Bring in More varieties of cheapo ones than expensive ones because otherwise it's not that profitable.

 

So even though i hate the whole PSB sticker thing, since now we have it and have to live with it, the only variable we can change in this continuous circle, is the fact that customers want to buy More expensive, safer helmets than the cheapo ones. Then the shop will stop bringing in cheapo ones, and bring in more expensive (nicer looking ones ). But this will never happen in Singapore. And i'm sure we all know why, it's because there will always be a market for cheap things.

[sleuth]

can use 1 mirror or not uh?

[Team_Commander]

where can get the approved 70% tinted visor for the evo helmet?

[XanChi]

I love tinted visors especially chromed ones

[VidaK]

anyone experienced a penalty for fixing transition lens on the visor?

[maosi21]

anyone know where can find those double visor helmet? the one with the tinted visor on the inside that can be flipped down?

 

and whether or not psb has approved them yet?

[brandon.]

Well , we caused it , we voted them.

 

I must have spend at least 2000$ on HDB parking fines , visor and traffic offenses.

 

I'm sure all of us have our fair share in contributing to them.

 

And Oh yes , they give us 200$ , two times a year. but this is nearing the voting session.

 

After the votes are in their favour , you guys can expect what's going to come.

 

Who suffer? we.

 

Imma not gonna vote em neither my family.

[Snoek]

Best to wear clear visor. TP don disturb =)

[villier]

anyone know where can find those double visor helmet? the one with the tinted visor on the inside that can be flipped down?

 

and whether or not psb has approved them yet?

 

Caberg and NoLan. Thats what i know of. Don't think PSB will approve as they are Expensive helmets. Singapore don't support Expensive helmet. They want you to die on the road wearing those cheapo helmets.

 

Stopped by TP once, fined for tinted visor. Ask me how much is my helmet(non PSB), told him, he never fine me for that. TP also a rider, they "should" understand.

[Hello.Kitty]

And i got fined today behind the coffee shop opposite ah boy de HDB Flat due to my visor was about 39%,sigh my $50.00.