Motorbike Models, Anyone?

[magic]

check out the Honda RC211V models from Tamiya.

 

waa so nice.. i dun think i've no sense of art, and got butterfingers for these smal small things.. haii dun think can do liao

 

only assembled 1 tamiya car model before, just paste stickers nia

haha

[Cbr_Fireblade]

this model r very expensive sia cost more then 200 if u wana make one thats y it turn me off if it cheaper i would have collected it man

[Arcfire]

Really meh?

 

Tink tat model quite popular among model makers.....always hard to find it.........looks damn cool....if oni they got the one for the pramac design....

[InsanE]

hrm...wonder if the OG at sim lim there still got %20 off......akkaka can shop for more models....make use of the bargain man

 

 

went down juz now... don thik the offer is still on.... btw the models are more ex then other shops....

[SiaoSter]

 

 

went down juz now... don thik the offer is still on.... btw the models are more ex then other shops....

 

yeah i realised that its a lot more expensive...even though after %20 its still more ex then the hobby shop at tiong bahru...

 

shucks....i wonder how the modellers make their bike so metal like....

[Dahlia]

hehe...i got almost all the collection...and still got 3 more bikes undone.well...if you do it nicely with patience....it really look gorgeus.i have alot of the colours(paint or spray type too)cause my friend got this hobby shop at tampines blk 201 there.keep it up guys and look forward for the new models.

[SiaoSter]

hehe...i got almost all the collection...and still got 3 more bikes undone.well...if you do it nicely with patience....it really look gorgeus.i have alot of the colours(paint or spray type too)cause my friend got this hobby shop at tampines blk 201 there.keep it up guys and look forward for the new models.

 

maybe u can post pics of ur completed models here and let fellow modellers admire ur work? wat kind of all the collection, issit by catogary type or as long as TAMIYA came out with a model u buy it ?

wowow ur friend open a hobby shop? hehehe can get discount bo? a bit out of the way for me but if have the chance will patronise that shop!

Looking forward to ur completed bike pics!

[Dahlia]

ok,i try to post some of the pictures....there are a few bikes i did srew up with,so the finishing is not that good.Well.....the skill haven reach home yet.Yup,you can go down there if you happen to pass by there,or it will be better if i follow you there.

[SiaoSter]

ok,i try to post some of the pictures....there are a few bikes i did srew up with,so the finishing is not that good.Well.....the skill haven reach home yet.Yup,you can go down there if you happen to pass by there,or it will be better if i follow you there.

 

ok ok will let u know when i intend to go down

looking forward to ur pics post

[tuapuisai]

 

waa so nice.. i dun think i've no sense of art, and got butterfingers for these smal small things.. haii dun think can do liao

 

only assembled 1 tamiya car model before, just paste stickers nia

haha

 

The unassembled RC211V as pictured is selling at $39.90 at miniature hobby at Marina Square. I just bought it a few days ago. Build quality is Tamiya standard - solid.

 

I've been building tanks since young but thought of building motorbikes for a change.

 

Just some thoughts about airbrushing vs. spray painting vs hand painting since it's brought up by some of the forum peeps...

 

Generally, airbrushing enables one to produce many effects, i.e. feathering one colour into the next (like camouflage on tanks, etc.). You get to save paint due to the 'thin-ness' of the paint layer applied on to the model. another benefit of a thin layer is that you don't obscure any surface detail on the model (such as tiny rivets, etc.) It's a good idea to buy a compressor (tank-mounted preferably) if you're into the hobby for long-term. Make sure it has a water-trap too. Singapore weather very humid so you won't want any moisture to get introduced into your airbrush and get spat out along with your paint. I got a Sil-Air compressor (back in JC). It runs very quietly (can airbrush till the wee hours) and has given me good service throughout the years. costs around $700. you can get it from Bras Basah. I got mine from Katong Shopping Centre. I haven't tried airbrushing using air from canisters. From what I understand air pressure may be a problem. The canisters are portable though. My Sil-Air weighs at least 15kg.

 

How to clean airbrush - I usually use commercial thinner and spray until clear. it's cheap but it STINKS! if using a bottle-fed airbrush, put your finger on the nozzle after the spray becomes clear. this forces the thinner to go back into the bottle (you'll see your bottle of thinner bubbling) and you'll help to clean the internal mechanism.

 

Internal - External airbrush. er... never heard of it. to my knowledge airbrush design is mainly differentiated by (1) feed mechanism and (2) single/double action.

 

Feed mechanism is simply gravity fed or bottle fed. self-explanatory.

 

single/double action - single action means depress trigger, air gets mixed with paint in a certain ratio (50:50???) and gets spat out. double action means you get to control the air/paint ratio. You not only get to depress the trigger, you also get to move it back and forth. Depressing controls amount of air, pulling trigger back and forth controls amount of paint.

 

Painting from spray cans gives you pretty good effects too. No fuss, no muss. For good effects, warm the can up (put it in a small tub of warm watter) in addition to shaking vigorously. Should give u a finer spray. After you're done remember to invert the can and spray until clear. This would clear the remaining paint in the feed/spray mechanism. Don't see this as 'wastage'. You'll rather waste this small amount than clog up the entire bottle.

 

Hand painting - good for detailing. try not to paint direct from the bottle as the paint is usually quite thick. use some scrap paper as your palette. if in doubt, err on the 'thin' side. thick paint is very hard to work with. again, clean out your brushes. if the paint dries at the roots, bye bye brush. you don't need a very small brush to insert detail - the shape of the tip of the brush is more important. 00 should be the smallest that you'll need. 000 is too small.

 

wah.... type so much liao. pai seh... hobby mah..

[InsanE]

hmmz guysssSSs theres a pro here~~~ flood him wif all yr questions~~~~

anyway how to apply the decals onto the bike???

previous one was screwed up.........

any ideas?

[SiaoSter]

wow ! we found a god of modeling! hey tuapuisai!! don leave this thread and keep us updated about stuff or knowledge u have to share with fellow modellers!

thanks for ur help!!

[tuapuisai]

wow ! we found a god of modeling! hey tuapuisai!! don leave this thread and keep us updated about stuff or knowledge u have to share with fellow modellers!

thanks for ur help!!

 

HAHHAHA... i'm no god lah. Furthermore, I've been doing tanks all my life and the RC211V will be my first attempt at motorbike modeling.

 

As for how to apply decals - this is what i usually do: -

 

Cut the decal out - trim the decal as close to the 'pattern' as possible to eliminate excess film.

 

Soak the decal in water - not too long, you would want the decal to stay on the backing paper. it's much easier to apply the decal when it's on the backing paper, plus the decal retains its adhesiveness. Having an opposed tweezer (one that opens when pressure is applied) helps you hold the decal in the water. trust me, much better than using your fingers. Take the soaking wet decal (w/backing paper) and rest it on tissue to help drain excess water away.

 

Apply the decal ONLY to painted surfaces - if you don't paint your model, it is extremely difficult for the decal to 'stick'. Decals adhere best to smooth, flat surfaces. Motorbike models are usually painted in gloss colours so the surface should be smooth. If using flat paint, airbrush a thin gloss coat over the area that you're apply the decal too.

 

Hold the decal (w/ backing paper) over the area and using a wet cotton bud (or toothpick, see how big the decal is), press the decal onto the model and slide the backing paper out. Adjust the decal into the desired position (do it real quick, once it starts to 'dry' you'll tear the decal. tamiya decals are quite strong - some manufacturers decals are really flimsy.) If you have, use a decal solution and dab it onto the area before applying. helps break the surface tension.

 

If decal is big, make a few tiny incisions with a sharp modeling knife. the incisions cannot be seen, and it helps air to escape to prevent bubbles from forming under the decal.

 

After you've finished applying the decals, using modeling wax and 'buff' the surface. It'll appear as if the decal has been 'painted' on instead of 'stuck on'. use the wax only if the subject matter is supposed to be shiny.

 

Hope this helps.

[Arcfire]

WOw.....really great insightful tips .....i wanna ask, can i paste the decals over the model den after that spray a layer of clear coat over it instead?

and one more thing, is the clear coat a paint or a lacquer? so wad issit actually called? What am i suppose to use to give my fairings of the bike a glossy finish like theose on display at modelling shops?

[tuapuisai]

hi arcfire,

 

If you're talking about sealing the decals after you've finished applying them, then a gloss coat would be okie (but not a flat coat. it'll make your decals 'stand out'.)

 

However, if you're talking about prepping the surface for decal application, then u have to spray the gloss coat on to the model before you apply the decals.

 

Clear coat is a lacquer. It's extremely thick when its in the bottle and should be diluted with 'lacquer thinner'. I don't think the lacquer can be diluted by any other means (turpentine, paint thinner, etc.) so for this reason I tend not to apply it with my airbrush as it's troublesome to flush the lacquer out after I'm done. Usually I use Gunze Sangyo lacquer sprays. They're pretty good.

[Arcfire]

hi arcfire,

 

If you're talking about sealing the decals after you've finished applying them, then a gloss coat would be okie (but not a flat coat. it'll make your decals 'stand out'.)

 

However, if you're talking about prepping the surface for decal application, then u have to spray the gloss coat on to the model before you apply the decals.

 

Clear coat is a lacquer. It's extremely thick when its in the bottle and should be diluted with 'lacquer thinner'. I don't think the lacquer can be diluted by any other means (turpentine, paint thinner, etc.) so for this reason I tend not to apply it with my airbrush as it's troublesome to flush the lacquer out after I'm done. Usually I use Gunze Sangyo lacquer sprays. They're pretty good.

 

So that means if i wan to seal the decals den i would have to spray 2 coats.....one before i paste the decals and one after? So i presume u mean to use the bottled type of lacquer spray? can they be found in the modelling shops?

[SiaoSter]

hi arcfire,

 

If you're talking about sealing the decals after you've finished applying them, then a gloss coat would be okie (but not a flat coat. it'll make your decals 'stand out'.)

 

However, if you're talking about prepping the surface for decal application, then u have to spray the gloss coat on to the model before you apply the decals.

 

Clear coat is a lacquer. It's extremely thick when its in the bottle and should be diluted with 'lacquer thinner'. I don't think the lacquer can be diluted by any other means (turpentine, paint thinner, etc.) so for this reason I tend not to apply it with my airbrush as it's troublesome to flush the lacquer out after I'm done. Usually I use Gunze Sangyo lacquer sprays. They're pretty good.

 

bro so if i were to spray paint my model first...then i apply the decals...then i spray a layer of clear coat laquer over it..

 

and one more thing..how many layers of laquer i have to spray to give it a glossy metal-like look? i sprayed a layer doesnt seem to be glossy at all...can give me some advice on it?

 

 

*air canister sucks! cos its damn fast finish use up..but no choice..i no $$$ to buy the air motor....issit call motor? kakaka

[biting_point]

hi.. i am new here.. let me intro myself..

 

i ride a RVF400 and is a diehard frantic on models cars and bikes..

 

these are my recent works..

 

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/p4efff67e3a10253318185f987a27508b/fad4002a.jpg

 

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/p49e9d4130ee69e73d0bb0dd3ba1c507e/fadbf1b2.jpg

 

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/p9e3a97310dfa49fcee346b23775d707e/fabb34aa.jpg

 

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/peada8bf0d56c0ebec7197705ca1b5b8b/fabb34a5.jpg

 

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/p4ea8ab8a4fde4730d7ebdc07521ae18e/fabb34a3.jpg

 

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/p46aa010d89ca376e63194db936dd0f27/fabb349f.jpg

[Arcfire]

hi.. i am new here.. let me intro myself..

 

i ride a RVF400 and is a diehard frantic on models cars and bikes..

 

these are my recent works..

 

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/p4efff67e3a10253318185f987a27508b/fad4002a.jpg

 

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/p49e9d4130ee69e73d0bb0dd3ba1c507e/fadbf1b2.jpg

 

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/p9e3a97310dfa49fcee346b23775d707e/fabb34aa.jpg

 

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/peada8bf0d56c0ebec7197705ca1b5b8b/fabb34a5.jpg

 

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/p4ea8ab8a4fde4730d7ebdc07521ae18e/fabb34a3.jpg

 

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/p46aa010d89ca376e63194db936dd0f27/fabb349f.jpg

 

Pretty gd i must say, where did u get the west design one? i could oni find the repsol one....

[SiaoSter]

hi.. i am new here.. let me intro myself..

 

i ride a RVF400 and is a diehard frantic on models cars and bikes..

 

these are my recent works..

 

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/p4efff67e3a10253318185f987a27508b/fad4002a.jpg

 

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/p49e9d4130ee69e73d0bb0dd3ba1c507e/fadbf1b2.jpg

 

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http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/p4ea8ab8a4fde4730d7ebdc07521ae18e/fabb34a3.jpg

 

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/p46aa010d89ca376e63194db936dd0f27/fabb349f.jpg

 

holy shit its nice man!! nice detailing done!! my detaling sucks big time ! lol

 

can advice me on how to give the bike a glossy metal like look?

 

and how to remove those tyre tracks off the tyres making it a smooth surface??

[biting_point]

the WEST decals are aftermarket decals.. you have to buy them seperately..

 

you can spray clear coat on the bike to have a glossy look..

sand th tyres with rough sandpaper..

 

these bike bike are on display at my friend's shop.. you can find other aftermarket decals and parts there too.. there are also courses for beginners.. the teacher is me..

 

the shop is Rtun'in Motosports Hobby Shop..

Location: Bras Braseh(spell) Complex

2nd storey facing the new library in construction..

 

those that has any queries or dunno how to go can PM me.. i'll be gald to bring you there..

[SiaoSter]

the WEST decals are aftermarket decals.. you have to buy them seperately..

 

you can spray clear coat on the bike to have a glossy look..

sand th tyres with rough sandpaper..

 

these bike bike are on display at my friend's shop.. you can find other aftermarket decals and parts there too.. there are also courses for beginners.. the teacher is me..

 

the shop is Rtun'in Motosports Hobby Shop..

Location: Bras Braseh(spell) Complex

2nd storey facing the new library in construction..

 

those that has any queries or dunno how to go can PM me.. i'll be gald to bring you there..

 

haha i always wanted to attend model lessons...but then no money to attend the lessons tats why i always ask pple for advice on how to do modelling...and it will be great if everyone shares their methods of doing the model

 

by the way just an idea to contribute.....anyone thought of putting LED underglow on the bike model? just like its being done on a real bike

or did someone already did that? i haven come across one yet...anyone did?

[Deathsythe]

the WEST decals are aftermarket decals.. you have to buy them seperately..

 

you can spray clear coat on the bike to have a glossy look..

sand th tyres with rough sandpaper..

 

these bike bike are on display at my friend's shop.. you can find other aftermarket decals and parts there too.. there are also courses for beginners.. the teacher is me..

 

the shop is Rtun'in Motosports Hobby Shop..

Location: Bras Braseh(spell) Complex

2nd storey facing the new library in construction..

 

those that has any queries or dunno how to go can PM me.. i'll be gald to bring you there..

 

How much would the course cost?

[biting_point]

sorry moderators.. i hope you dun consider this as spam..

 

the course is S$180 inclusive of one model..

[Deathsythe]

sorry moderators.. i hope you dun consider this as spam..

 

the course is S$180 inclusive of one model..

 

How abt the airbrush?

Provided for training or need to bring in our own?