Kawasaki KRR150 Riders

[Guest FireSpitter]

Originally posted by Shockard@Jul 28 2005, 02:23 PM

Like that called constructive ar? I thought you wrote it.

 

Read before, nice to read again. Think I saw the link somewhere in SBF before.

 

*rant* Bloody 7 year old crt monitor died on me yesterday. *rant*

For goodness sake!! I am only 22 years old, still a noob noob noob, so I only got to know of this website 2 days ago mah. Can pung chance or not? Very pressure one leh... For once I think I did something that's gonna make me feel so proud and you had to pour cold water.

 

 

FireSpitter carries Shockard up and throws him into a deep pit full of beautiful, voluptous & horny women.............. who are also HIV positive.

 

Lastly, for goodness f*ck sake lah.... 7 years old already still not ready to let go ah? KAO POON LIAO LAH...

[Shockard]

 

You really have a talent for comical writing.

[Shockard]

Originally posted by razorblade41@Jul 27 2005, 05:48 PM

got a question to ask. i left my bike on for a while the other day. think abt half an hr and then the temp and idling needle went up. temp needle going up is fine but how come the idling needle will go up??

Your engine cold when you last checked your idling is it? Your bike warm up liao, idling will naturally go up.

[Shockard]

Originally posted by CasperTan@Jul 27 2005, 09:30 PM

as in i mean can move up and down once only not like mine can move twice up when on

Mine also got can 2 clicks up when on. The middle click is to light up the dials/dashboard.

[Guest FireSpitter]

Originally posted by Shockard@Jul 28 2005, 04:12 PM

 

You really have a talent for comical writing.

I'm a better talent at porn movie scripting. Wanna be a part of my next movie? I have just the part for you. It involves you, a bar of soap in your hand (Which you will drop later in the movie) & 10 "Smurfs".

[Shockard]

Originally posted by FireSpitter@Jul 28 2005, 07:47 PM

I'm a better talent at porn movie scripting. Wanna be a part of my next movie? I have just the part for you. It involves you, a bar of soap in your hand (Which you will drop later in the movie) & 10 "Smurfs".

I'll prefer a movie with a Snow White instead.

 

No seven dwarfs please.

[ddaniel]

Hi guys..

my bike feels like no power no power 1..

ask a mech n he says must tk out block den service d valve or wat..nv say clearly wat he will do.. but he got mention d service will include changing of d gasket..will cost ard 100 bucks..

 

so im wondering isit dat exp?

[Guest FireSpitter]

Originally posted by Shockard@Jul 28 2005, 08:16 PM

I'll prefer a movie with a Snow White instead.

 

No seven dwarfs please.

Ahhhh... my favourite story. Snow White, sperm white.... Yes, you'll be involved with a Snow White character (with an adam apple)

[Shockard]

[Guest FireSpitter]

Originally posted by ddaniel@Jul 28 2005, 08:21 PM

Hi guys..

my bike feels like no power no power 1..

ask a mech n he says must tk out block den service d valve or wat..nv say clearly wat he will do.. but he got mention d service will include changing of d gasket..will cost ard 100 bucks..

 

so im wondering isit dat exp?

Replacement of gaskets, decarbonise block, ream valleys, replacement of coolant, disassembly & re-assembly of power valves, removal/reassembly of fuel tank, air filter box, engine block & fairings. Lots of work for around that price isn't really that expensive. You can go to Racewerks. Only $90 for a very professional job done.

[ddaniel]

Originally posted by FireSpitter@Jul 28 2005, 09:50 PM

Replacement of gaskets, decarbonise block, ream valleys, replacement of coolant, disassembly & re-assembly of power valves, removal/reassembly of fuel tank, air filter box, engine block & fairings. Lots of work for around that price isn't really that expensive. You can go to Racewerks. Only $90 for a very professional job done.

juz wondering..assuming no queue/waiting time..hw long approx does it take to complete all d jobs dat u mentioned?

[Guest FireSpitter]

Originally posted by ddaniel@Jul 28 2005, 10:05 PM

juz wondering..assuming no queue/waiting time..hw long approx does it take to complete all d jobs dat u mentioned?

Really depends on the amount of sludge that needs "more attention" to remove but I'd say if they are 100% focused (Which most of the time they're not), 1.5 hours averagely.

[ddaniel]

Originally posted by FireSpitter@Jul 28 2005, 10:58 PM

Really depends on the amount of sludge that needs "more attention" to remove but I'd say if they are 100% focused (Which most of the time they're not), 1.5 hours averagely.

icic...btw is dere a need for d engine to cool down totally 1st before taking out d engine blocks n stuff?

 

cos d mech i went to request that i put my bike at his workshop at nite so dat he can start on it straightaway d following morning..n he says he needs a day to complete...6pm den can collect d bike...

[Guest FireSpitter]

Originally posted by ddaniel@Jul 28 2005, 11:16 PM

icic...btw is dere a need for d engine to cool down totally 1st before taking out d engine blocks n stuff?

 

cos d mech i went to request that i put my bike at his workshop at nite so dat he can start on it straightaway d following morning..n he says he needs a day to complete...6pm den can collect d bike...

Definately need to cool down first.

[ddaniel]

Originally posted by FireSpitter@Jul 28 2005, 11:38 PM

Definately need to cool down first.

yup..using my common sense to tink...i oso tink dat need to cool down. juz curious hw come he needs to take a whole day to do everyting when most feedbacks i heard a few hrs can liao..

 

hmm....

[d0n]

got a friend who changed his piston recently (due to piston chao tar)

he experience low power frm bike w/ revs below 5K RPM

is the bike supposed to behave in such a way during running in?

[Shockard]

Originally posted by d0n^@Jul 29 2005, 12:12 AM

got a friend who changed his piston recently (due to piston chao tar)

he experience low power frm bike w/ revs below 5K RPM

is the bike supposed to behave in such a way during running in?

I did a very conservative run-in.

 

0-800km - >80kph, >5500rpm

0-1600km - >100kph, >7000rpm

 

For the first 800km, I was going too slow to feel any power at all.

 

After the oil change at 800km, I still didn't try to open valve at all.

[Guest FireSpitter]

Originally posted by Shockard@Jul 29 2005, 04:41 AM

I did a very conservative run-in.

 

0-800km - >80kph, >5500rpm

0-1600km - >100kph, >7000rpm

 

For the first 800km, I was going too slow to feel any power at all.

 

After the oil change at 800km, I still didn't try to open valve at all.

Personally I do not follow the "normal" break in methods but have ridden my bikes "as it is" (For the familiar, it's the Motoman method).

 

Shockard - Is 5500rpm (and 7000rpm) = 80km/h (and 100km/h) done in 6th gear? I presume yours are stock ratios. It's just that my ratios are all fooked up and I am messing with some calculations to get it "right" for me.

[Guest FireSpitter]

Originally posted by ddaniel@Jul 28 2005, 11:57 PM

yup..using my common sense to tink...i oso tink dat need to cool down. juz curious hw come he needs to take a whole day to do everyting when most feedbacks i heard a few hrs can liao..

 

hmm....

2 reasons I can think of.

 

(1) Owner not around - No pressure from the owner staring at his every move.

 

(2) Leave your bike there whole day = Can take his time to do it.

[patrick1131]

Originally posted by FireSpitter@Jul 29 2005, 10:21 AM

2 reasons I can think of.

 

(1) Owner not around - No pressure from the owner staring at his every move.

 

(2) Leave your bike there whole day = Can take his time to do it.

my fren tell me not to leave motor over night

cos he sae as a noob I can't tell if he took any of my parts aso

[Guest FireSpitter]

Originally posted by patrick1131@Jul 29 2005, 12:00 PM

my fren tell me not to leave motor over night

cos he sae as a noob I can't tell if he took any of my parts aso

Generally that is an untrue statement (Although I would not deny that a small number of shops would do it) because there's too much at risk for small gains. Businesses are getter smarter and they do know how to weigh risks better now than they did in the past.

 

I will have no qualms about leaving my bike at a shop which I trust but I try to make appointments in advance to make sure I can ride off with it as I am paralysed when it comes to figuring out public transport to get home. Still my take on this is the same all along. Sometimes, it's not about the price (They don't differ by very much anyway but then again a little bargaining sometimes brings it back to equal to the cheapest price you get out there) but the rapport you build, and a good businessman will recognise your continued support & will reciprocate accordingly.

 

A look at basic business equations and you'll understand why workmanship will cost so much in Singapore.

 

Proprietor's salary $3000

Rent $15000

PUB $500

Worker's salaries (2 worker) $4000

Miscellaneous $2000

 

$24500 divided by 25 working days = $980 nett profit per day to just enough to cover running costs!!!! He has to earn $120+ an hour to achieve that.

 

Have a rethink of spending too much time overhaggling over an extra $1 he's overcharging you for the spark plug and look at the big picture that he too has expenses to cover. When you see what he sees, and when he knows you have such a vision, mutual respect & a strong bond is usually formed and most times, it's a win-win situation. I don't pay a cent for changing lightbulbs (Even speedo ones!), tightening chains or even washing the carburettor at some of my favourite shops because of this bond but usually I'll insist on paying a token. Like I'm trying to say.... rub my back, and I'll rub yours. Now guys go form your own bond.

[Shockard]

Originally posted by FireSpitter@Jul 29 2005, 10:19 AM

Personally I do not follow the "normal" break in methods but have ridden my bikes "as it is" (For the familiar, it's the Motoman method).

 

Shockard - Is 5500rpm (and 7000rpm) = 80km/h (and 100km/h) done in 6th gear? I presume yours are stock ratios. It's just that my ratios are all fooked up and I am messing with some calculations to get it "right" for me.

The Motoman method works for 2-stroke bikes too? Thought it only applies to 4-strokes. Anyway, don't have the balls to try on my first bike.

 

In top gear, 5000rpm would give me 80km/h and 6000km/h would give me 100km/h. Not 100% accurate, +/- 100-200rpm. Will update after I take my bike out for a ride.

[ddaniel]

Originally posted by FireSpitter@Jul 29 2005, 10:21 AM

2 reasons I can think of.

 

(1) Owner not around - No pressure from the owner staring at his every move.

 

(2) Leave your bike there whole day = Can take his time to do it.

yup agreed...so that when other bikes come in for servicing, he can attend to them straightaway rather den tell customers to wait or come again in a few hrs time as he is servicing my bike...

 

oni concern for leaving overnite outside d shop is not scared d mechs tk out my stuff, more of afraid dat thieves go steal my bike parts..wait nxt day all d ferring n stuff all gone..hah

 

n agree to d part abt building a rapport wif the shop

no pt spending 5mins arguing over d few bucks..

if noe them well turns out both parties will b happy

they do ur bike for u oso swee swee

but probably giving in/agreeing to their prices everytime may lead dem to tink ya carrot can chop...but over-haggling over d $1..realli can seng ki lai...dun waste d energy

[Guest FireSpitter]

Originally posted by ddaniel@Jul 29 2005, 04:16 PM

but over-haggling over d $1..realli can seng ki lai...dun waste d energy

I know some people who view $1 as the biggest thing that happens in their lives.

 

Recently I went to a bike shop to get a spark plug and was charged $5. I still paid him that without haggling, although I buy these regularly at $2-$3 per piece elsewhere at my favourite bike parts shopping haunt. Some shops might wanna earn $0.60 from you doesn't mean that every shop you patronise should also earn only $0.60 as well. By the way, I need the ($5 plug) shop for bigger issues later, so my support to keep their shop running must be there as well.

[Shockard]

Okay, went riding for like 20km. This is what I found out.

 

In top gear

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4500rpm - 80km/h

5500rpm - 100km/h

6500rpm - 120km/h

 

+/- 50-100rpm for parallax error.